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#1526
Redneck1st

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Gorath Alpha wrote...

An HD 5770 is a Mainline Gaming card, not "High End" at all. You are probably trying to push it beyond its limits. If you want max settings, just like the Dx11 recommendation, use an HD 5850 or faster.



In all honest there isn't much difference between the 5850 for which you're suggesting to him than the Visiontek HD 5670 for which I suggested. Only difference is the fact that you can connect 3 monitors with the 5850 as opposed to 2 with the 5670. Not to mention that price difference of $115 U.S. Heck he could get two of the 5670's and cross fire them for less than one of the 5850s and still come out way ahead. I only use one HD 5670 and the game runs fine like I said before.

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Redneck1st

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I don't know whether or not this will help anyone but this is the way things are set up within my game under "Options" "VIDEO"

Resolution 1920x1080(16:9)
Full Screen is checked
Full Screen Gamma 1
Renderer: DirectX 11
Vertical Sync: Checked
Graphics Detail: Very High
Anti-aliasing: 4x
Anisotropic filtering: Off
High-resolution textures: checked

I've got nothing else checked at all on my ATI Radeon 5670 and the game is running fine.

#1528
Darsus55

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This card looks awesome, given price. Could you take a look and give an opinion?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130629


Runs at 981mhz!!

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JMC002

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Bear in mind that DA2 seems to be quite intolerant of graphics card overclocks.

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Darsus55 wrote...

This card looks awesome, given price. Could you take a look and give an opinion?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130629


Runs at 981mhz!!

For the price, an ATI 6850 would provide a lot more power.

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Darsus55

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Problem fixed. I am probably going to still upgrade video cards though. 6850, sounds good. Can someone tell me what differnce stream processors make? What I mean is that a card may have a core speed of 800mhz and 300 stream processors and another 700mhz and 900 stream processors. I am thinking that the higher stream processors are what makes the power of the card. Can someone confirm?

Ok my solution was this, for now. DA2 does not like crossfire, maybe Catalyst plays a part, but I disabled crossfire and went back down to one card. It works fine and fast on anti-aliasing X8, widescreen 1920 X1080. Very High with the high resolution textures enabled.

Hopefully a new patch will fix it, but for now I can still play the game at full spec. Other games have no issues with crossfire. Frustrating to have to open my pc all the time, disabling crossfire in Catalyst did not work.

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My specs:
Core i7 2.2ghz
8gb ddr3 RAM
GTX 460M Gddr5

I only get about 9 FPS. I also get rendering issues, any way to fix this?

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Atranox

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Redneck1st wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...

An HD 5770 is a Mainline Gaming card, not "High End" at all. You are probably trying to push it beyond its limits. If you want max settings, just like the Dx11 recommendation, use an HD 5850 or faster.



In all honest there isn't much difference between the 5850 for which you're suggesting to him than the Visiontek HD 5670 for which I suggested. Only difference is the fact that you can connect 3 monitors with the 5850 as opposed to 2 with the 5670. Not to mention that price difference of $115 U.S. Heck he could get two of the 5670's and cross fire them for less than one of the 5850s and still come out way ahead. I only use one HD 5670 and the game runs fine like I said before.


I'm not sure if you're kidding or if you're being serious.  A 5850 is far, far superior to a 5670.  Even a single 5850 will beat out a 5670 Crossfire by a large amount.  If you're comparing single cards, a 5850 will easily double or triple the framerate of a 5670 at 1080P.

It's not even a close comparison in any way imagineable.

Modifié par Atranox, 05 mai 2011 - 10:32 .


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Darsus55 wrote...

Problem fixed. I am probably going to still upgrade video cards though. 6850, sounds good. Can someone tell me what differnce stream processors make? What I mean is that a card may have a core speed of 800mhz and 300 stream processors and another 700mhz and 900 stream processors. I am thinking that the higher stream processors are what makes the power of the card. Can someone confirm?

Ok my solution was this, for now. DA2 does not like crossfire, maybe Catalyst plays a part, but I disabled crossfire and went back down to one card. It works fine and fast on anti-aliasing X8, widescreen 1920 X1080. Very High with the high resolution textures enabled.

Hopefully a new patch will fix it, but for now I can still play the game at full spec. Other games have no issues with crossfire. Frustrating to have to open my pc all the time, disabling crossfire in Catalyst did not work.


You can't judge a GPU based solely on specs.  If you want to see how well a card performs, you need to read reviews and benchmarks.  If you want a quick way to compare cards, you can use Anandtech's website:

http://www.anandtech...bench/GPU11/188

Just select 2 cards from the drop down and you can view the comparison.

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Gorath Alpha

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Redneck1st wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...

An HD 5770 is a Mainline Gaming card, not "High End" at all. (An HD 5670 is BELOW an HD 5770 in performance, and an HD 5770 is below an HD 58-anything.)  You are probably trying to push it beyond its limits. If you want max settings, just like the Dx11 recommendation, use an HD 5850 or faster.


In all honest there isn't much difference between the 5850 for which you're suggesting to him than the Visiontek HD 5670 for which I suggested. Only difference is the fact that you can connect 3 monitors with the 5850 as opposed to 2 with the 5670. Not to mention that price difference of $115 U.S. Heck he could get two of the 5670's and cross fire them for less than one of the 5850s and still come out way ahead. I only use one HD 5670 and the game runs fine like I said before.

A year ago, the HD 5670 was reasonably good, pretty much in the middle of the Medium ranks.  Two of them added up together in crossfire, as is always the case, is roughly equal to the next full step, a SINGLE HD 5770.  Two of those together in Crossfire is roughly equal to a SINGLE HD 5870.  A single HD 5670 is unable to handle this game in Very High, Dx11.  A single HD 5770 is unable to handle this game in Very High, Dx11.  A single HD 5830 is on the verge of being enough, it's very close. 

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Darsus55

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I have the game running with one 5770. I can max the settings, but obviously the frame rate is low. So I take things down a little and it runs fine. The problem is definately with the game and crossfired 5770's . Everything else I have runs full spec with no issues at a decent framerate with both cards in crossfire mode. The game will load, then stop and crash. Does not happen with one card. Very dissapointing as I love the game.

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Alexios Cassius

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I have GeForce GTX570. No lags with everything on max with the latest driver. But the game randomly crashes with any settings whenever I use dx11. No issues so far with dx9.
To be precise, this is my graphics card.
Is there any chance for me to play normally with dx11? Or is the only hope to wait for the next patch?

JMC002 wrote...

Bear in mind that DA2 seems to be quite intolerant of graphics card overclocks.

Well, mine is definitely overclocked. Does it mean that I won't be able to play DA2 with dx11 at all?

Added: It seems I solved my issue by updating graphics card's BIOS. Everything is on max now with dx11. No crashes yet. There are some rare minor lags. It seems the game crashed on those lags before. If I experience any more random crashes, I'll post here again.

Modifié par Alexios Cassius, 13 mai 2011 - 05:51 .


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I posted months back. I have given up on the DX11 and I'm using DX9.

I just did a complete reinstall on a new Crucial M4 128GB and still have the same issues with stopping and crashing. I do believe my problem has something to do with the way DX11 works with the CPU and how it handles ram. My issues are less severe if I only have 4GB of ram in the machine. My CPU maxes out on both DA2 and Civ V even on the lowest settings of DX11. So either my CPU is just too slow or DX11 isn't optimized to play nicely with older hardware.

I curious if the problems will go away later this year when I ditch intel for one of those new bulldozer mobo with SLI.

Modifié par taztonio, 14 mai 2011 - 01:49 .


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Alexios Cassius

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taztonio wrote...

I posted months back. I have given up on the DX11 and I'm using DX9.

I just did a complete reinstall on a new Crucial M4 128GB and still have the same issues with stopping and crashing. I do believe my problem has something to do with the way DX11 works with the CPU and how it handles ram. My issues are less severe if I only have 4GB of ram in the machine. My CPU maxes out on both DA2 and Civ V even on the lowest settings of DX11. So either my CPU is just too slow or DX11 isn't optimized to play nicely with older hardware.

I curious if the problems will go away later this year when I ditch intel for one of those new bulldozer mobo with SLI.


DDR2 is quite slow memory. My PC runs with 4 GB of DDR3. I don't see much sense in having more memory for games yet, as almost all of them are 32-bit applications yet, and therefore can't use large amounts of memory. Also please note that you have to install 64-bit operating system if you have more than 4 GB of RAM. Actually, on my personal experiense, it is better to move to 64-bit when you have more than 2 GB. I currently use Windows 7 x64.
About dx11 freezes and crashes... In my personal case it was all Gigabyte's fault. Their graphics card GV-N570OC-13I had serious performance and stability issues with initial BIOS version F1. They only released updated F2 version in the mid April. But I learned about it only yesterday. Updating the BIOS solved my DX11 issues completely. I played through the whole night with all settings on max and had no crashes at all and only rare minor lags.
I think I should apologize to BioWare, as I seriously thought that it is their game is so unstable with dx11 and that they just don't want to solve the issue. Yeah, I admit I didn't have such serious issues with other games, but I think it is just because they are less demanding. I actually had a few freezes with Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. Now I think it could be for the same reason. And I had serious performance issues with Final Fantasy XIV. Some people had it run better with GTX460 than I with GTX570. I haven't checked the performance of that game after updating BIOS, as I canceled my subscription in the early March. But I think the reason for slow performance could be the same.
For those who have slow performance or crashes/freezes with GTX500 series I suggest checking graphics card manufacturer's website for BIOS updates. It is possible that my graphics card isn't unique with that kind of issue.

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Card = ATI Radeon HD 5770 (EAH5770), manufactured by ASUS.

I've searched all over and have still not found a fix for this issue of the game crashing.  Initially, I made it to Kirkwall and it continuously crashed in the first cutscene.  Since tried some fixes, I now can't even get past the intro screen.

I tried the Windows preview drivers per the initial post, but the game is still crashing with DX11 enabled.  I've tried the newest ATI Radeon drivers as well (4/11, i believe), and no difference.  I've tried very high and even high settings w/ AA at 2x and still crashing.

Is there a fix, or do I have to play the game in DX9?

Intel i7 CPU
Windows 7 64bit
4Gb RAM
EAH5770 card w/ 1Gb GDDR5 memory, default settings

Help!

#1541
muaythai24

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Hello guys I have the same problem with TalonXV ...I cant figure out what is going on...it was a waste of money if bioware doesnt find a solution here...

#1542
Gorath Alpha

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The Radeon 5770 is *NOT* a "High End" card, and is not suitable for the Dx11 option. Anyone actually dealing with a problem needs to recognize that theere is a minimum HD 5850 for Dx11, and that this is a Self-Help place, a User to User forum. Official support is on EA's Help site, and without proper data, the experienced gamers in here cannot make useful suggestions.

No data in = no data out, sorry.

#1543
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Gorath Alpha wrote...

The Radeon 5770 is *NOT* a "High End" card, and is not suitable for the Dx11 option. Anyone actually dealing with a problem needs to recognize that theere is a minimum HD 5850 for Dx11, and that this is a Self-Help place, a User to User forum. Official support is on EA's Help site, and without proper data, the experienced gamers in here cannot make useful suggestions.

No data in = no data out, sorry.


I am currently playing the game with just one Radeon 5770.  Settings are:

Resolution: 1920 X 1080
Aspect Ratio: Widescreen 16X9
Graphics Detail: High
Anti Aliasing: 8X
High Resolution Textures: Enabled
Renderer: DirectX 11

Play in Full Screen is Checked.

Average frame rate is 59, can go down to 50 or so when there is heavy action.  I think you will agree that is playable.  I am upgrading to a 'high end,' card a Radeon 6870 because I want to play in very high setting and be ready for other games, but that is my preference.  One 6870 is sufficient to play this game, just not maxed.  Also make sure that you meet the other game requirements, such as processor and memory.  A good graphics card does not replace the basics.
i do not have Catalyst installed, just the card drivers and DirectX 11. 

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I downloaded the newest Nvidia drivers 275.27 Beta. After that I can't play with DirectX11. The shadows are acting weird, there's a square shaped shadow under the characters in some areas (at the moment they're in the Deep Roads). Before installing the drivers everything was fine, I had played the game for two months without any major problems with all the graphics at the highest settings, fullscreen 1680x1050 resolution.

I was just wondering if anyone else have had this problem after installing these Beta drivers?

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4 Gb RAM
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Alexios Cassius

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Ubasti wrote...

I downloaded the newest Nvidia drivers 275.27 Beta. After that I can't play with DirectX11. The shadows are acting weird, there's a square shaped shadow under the characters in some areas (at the moment they're in the Deep Roads). Before installing the drivers everything was fine, I had played the game for two months without any major problems with all the graphics at the highest settings, fullscreen 1680x1050 resolution.

I was just wondering if anyone else have had this problem after installing these Beta drivers?

Specs:
AMD Phenom™ II X6 1055T
4 Gb RAM
Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-bit
GeForce GTX 460 (overclocked, was when I bought it)

Thanks for the warning. I'm fine with 270.61 and will now make sure not to install these beta drivers, though I have GTX570, and it may work differently, but I have no desire for trying something somebody else already has trouble with.

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I strongly recommend you get your graphic drivers from the actual card manufacturer (VisionTek, Galaxy, ASUS, etc.) if possible rather than the chip set manufacturer (AMD, NVIDIA).

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Gorath Alpha

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Sorry, you need to be a lot more specific. Quite a few of the partners don't make much of an attempt to deal with drivers at all. Sapphire in particular is very poor about graphics driver support. The same has often been even more true for many laptop producers.

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6GB DDR3 1600 Ram
ATI HD 5870 Graphics Card with 1GB Ram
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Patch Version 1.02

I have the latest driver for my graphics card. The problem I am having is in DX11 mode I have black and white lines coming off the back of all the characters and run to the bottom of the screen. These lines flicker in intensity. Has anyone else seen something live this and know of a way around the problem. If not I am hoping patch 1.03 fixes this problem.

#1549
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This isn't directly related to DX11 but during our investigations for the upcoming Patch 1.03, we encountered reports from some Nvidia users who were experiencing lag and freezing after installing Patch 1.02. We ultimately identified this as being due to those users setting their pre-rendering to 8 frames in the Nvidia control panel. Our beta testers confirmed that this issue clears up if you set your pre-rendering to 3 frames or lower.

So, if you use the pre-rendering feature on your Nvidia cards, we recommend you keep it set to 3 frames or lower to avoid freezing issues.

Hope that helps,
Rob

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Rob Bartel wrote...

This isn't directly related to DX11 but during our investigations for the upcoming Patch 1.03, we encountered reports from some Nvidia users who were experiencing lag and freezing after installing Patch 1.02. We ultimately identified this as being due to those users setting their pre-rendering to 8 frames in the Nvidia control panel. Our beta testers confirmed that this issue clears up if you set your pre-rendering to 3 frames or lower.

So, if you use the pre-rendering feature on your Nvidia cards, we recommend you keep it set to 3 frames or lower to avoid freezing issues.

Hope that helps,
Rob

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Have you encountered any issues during testing for Patch 1.3 that involve similar reports, but are not related to the pre-rendering issue (I have my rendering settings set to allow the application to control them)? I have frequent crashes unrelated to any specific event in the game that occur within 30 seconds to two minutes of actual gameplay time, but such crashes only occur when using DX11 as a renderer. There is no chugging or anything else indicating that my system is overtaxed. I go from a straight 60 FPS to crash to desktop with no warning and no specific trigger. I've already reinstalled and repatched in order to fix the issue.

When using DX9 as a renderer, none of these issues occur and the game runs smoothly.

The other DX11 game I have to test by, Bad Company 2, does not have similar issues. However, the game is different enough that I wanted to ask if obtaining the demo of a DX11 game closer in nature to DA2 would provide a better benchmark. Any help that anyone could provide would be welcome at this point--I need to figure out whether my DA2 troubles are software issues or if there is some specific hardware issue with my card and I need to return it.

EDIT: Drivers are the current release version. I have yet to test using the newer beta drivers released by Nvidia last week. Since no specifics in the patch notes involve DA2, I figured it probably wasn't going to work.

Modifié par UnstableMongoose, 25 mai 2011 - 08:36 .