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[Kemmer]

Ah, I see what some of you guys are saying now. But at the very least, the approval bar is different this time around. Rivalry isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Razored1313]

My question involves isabela, I try to give her the ship in a bottle but everytime I do I get the questioning beliefs quest to go instead!

Does it matterwar what point I do questioning beliefs for a full Romance with her?

[Frinklin]

Rylor Tormtor wrote...

 make the nug with two backs with them.

This wins the boards for today. 

[JamesX]

It seems very odd that either you have to have romance/love interest, or you have rivalry. Not sure if that is intentional or not. Whenever I just talk normally I get no change or rivalry points. it seems you have to pick the Heart Icon to get Friendship points.

[Soundsystem]

Rylor Tormtor wrote...

Arrgh.

Really? It is like you people see the various outline of a soapbox and you want to jump on it. It is like someone is only reading a couple words, and then ignoring the rest of the post.

Noone is mad about any romance options. They are great, they are inclusive, and it is a huge step forward. I wasn't planning on romancing Anders this time through, so, when the dialog showed wheel came up, I DID NOT CHOOSE A HEART. But, I got a big steamin' pile of rivalry points.

That is, from what I could gather from reading THE ENTIRE OP, that the poster was annoyed at. I find it annoying as well.

It has nothing to do with sexual orientation or anything. Just your companions getting all mad that you don't want to make the nug with two backs with them.

Then you should have this in the first place, not: "THE GAME IS FORCING ME TO BE GAY OH MAKER HELP!" 

Which is what it came off as. That said: Anders hits on EVERYONE like that. Male or Female Hawke. Doesn't matter. And you can get out of it without taking rivalry points. When he first says anything to you in that scene, where he hits on you after helping with Karl, then select the Direct option on the bottom wheel. No romance, no rivalry points.

If you do take the hit it is RIDICULOUSLY easy to get Anders to full friendship with the hit. I took that hit and we were at 100% friendship way before the end of the game.

Also: Fenris does not just hit on you out of the blue. Played that part with both a male!Hawke and a female!Hawke and he didn't hit on either one. Well, only my fem!Hawke after I selected the flirt option.

[Agent_Dark_]

with any luck, Dragon Age 3 (lol?) won't have any relationships at all. That would really fsk people up.

[Dromgatti]

Personally when I am trying to play a brooding quite death machine it kind of takes me out of the story and ruins game play when my bad ass warrior all of a sudden gets all giddy with another man...=-(. Don't have a problem with gayness just prefer the option to not participate while trying to roll play a cretin nature and demeanor I have in mind. Man this game really isn't what I thought it was going to be... I hope it gets better. I miss the pen and paper RPG feel that origins had...then the whole DX11 + Nvidia issue and now this (shrug). idk

[Ryzaki]

...I don't understand.

You pick the option with a HEART and act surprised Hawke acts giddy?

...the mind boggles.

See that nice broken heart icon? Use it. You won't ever have to deal with flirty dialogue again once its used. 

Rivalry path is better for Anders crazy self anyway.  

And I assume you were as annoyed with that stupid half smile Hawke gives Isabela as I was. I couldn't even control that. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2011 - 08:48 .

[WidowMaker9394]

I hated how Anders forced himself upon you when you played as a male Hawke. I was nice to the guy but as soon as I don't want to jump into bed with him I get Rivalry points?

[Bruddajakka]

Anders is about the only one where you end up flat out walled off by having to flirt with him or take a steep rivalry hit.

[elirian_19]

In DA3 BioWare should have a pop up message appear when you click the <3 option saying, "You have clicked the option to initiate the romance/flirt with the character. Are you sure you want to proceed. Click YES or NO." And then just to make sure they're not forcing you into anything, another yes or no popup message.

And yes, Ish, the gay burns. Brightly.

[Bruddajakka]

I don't think it's so much a matter of what the icon means so much that there's one point where you HAVE to flirt or take a hit.

[erilben]

Ryzaki wrote...

...I don't understand.

A
You pick the option with a HEART and act surprised Hawke acts giddy?

...the mind boggles.

Well actually Isabela and Anders are suppose to initiate the romance even without picking any heart dialog options. A dev said that's what they decided to do.

I know it's true for Anders. He will start the romance if you pick that diplomatic option in the first conversation after he's told you about Justice. Otherwise, if you pick a different dialog option there, he won't start the romance, and then instead he will start ranting.

[Ryzaki]

erilben wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

...I don't understand.

A
You pick the option with a HEART and act surprised Hawke acts giddy?

...the mind boggles.

Well actually Isabela and Anders are suppose to initiate the romance even without picking any heart dialog options. A dev said that's what they decided to do.

I know it's true for Anders. He will start the romance if you pick that diplomatic option in the first conversation after he's told you about Justice. Otherwise, if you pick a different dialog option there, he won't start the romance, and then instead he will start ranting.

Yeah but Hawke doesn't react positively or negatively until you pick the heart option.

I've done the Anders romance several times with M!Hawke. M!Hawke's not flirty until you pick the option with a big old heart. 

And you have the choice between two hearts and one broken heart.

...It's not rocket science which one you should pick if you don't want a romance. 

Hell Hawke can turn down Anders right away. Hawke's forced to have some stupid damn goofy look on his face with Isabela. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2011 - 08:59 .

[erilben]

I don't have a problem with it. I don't see why it matters. Getting rivalry because you told him you are not interested in him is not a bad thing. And I think you can even avoid getting any in that conversation. Even if you want friendship with Anders, it's easy to get back those points back if you help mages. If you don't, you going to get even more rivalry points with Anders anyway.

[Dromgatti]

yeah but I cant be friendly towards my NPC's without them gayin it up.  My brother is gay I honestly have nothign against it I just wish it wasnt forced upon me when I am trying to get into a character and story line. IF I choose the broken heart they end up not liking me... and I wasnt talking about hawke I was talking about Anders.  If I am nice to him at all he starts talking about how cute and scruffy I am lol wtf. its all good, just not my thing =-(

Ryzaki wrote...

...I don't understand.

You pick the option with a HEART and act surprised Hawke acts giddy?

...the mind boggles.

See that nice broken heart icon? Use it. You won't ever have to deal with flirty dialogue again once its used. 

Rivalry path is better for Anders crazy self anyway.  

And I assume you were as annoyed with that stupid half smile Hawke gives Isabela as I was. I couldn't even control that. 

[Dromgatti]

wonderful idea!!!

elirian_19 wrote...

In DA3 BioWare should have a pop up message appear when you click the <3 option saying, "You have clicked the option to initiate the romance/flirt with the character. Are you sure you want to proceed. Click YES or NO." And then just to make sure they're not forcing you into anything, another yes or no popup message.

And yes, Ish, the gay burns. Brightly.

[Ryzaki]

Dromgatti wrote...


yeah but I cant be friendly towards my NPC's without them gayin it up.  My brother is gay I honestly have nothign against it I just wish it wasnt forced upon me when I am trying to get into a character and story line. IF I choose the broken heart they end up not liking me... and I wasnt talking about hawke I was talking about Anders.  If I am nice to him at all he starts talking about how cute and scruffy I am lol wtf. its all good, just not my thing =-(

Just pick the broken heart. 

Seriously. 

It's 15 rivalry points which are easily made up. You have nothing to complain about .Your Hawke isn't even mean to Anders he just says "not interested." everyone isn't going to smile and nod when you reject them. He won't bring it up later.  

Really there's a way to avoid the gayin it up. Don't pick the overly nice options or if you do pick the broken heart. 

You aren't forced to flirt with Anders. Nor are you forced to watch your Hawke leer at him like an idiot. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2011 - 09:28 .

[Dromgatti]

Am I a terrible person because this bothers me? Is there something wrong with me because my vision of bad ass brooding heroes is slightly tainted when gayness is implemented. I honestly have no ill will I just want your guys opinion. I really don't hate, just wondering what you guys think? Why would this slightly bother me? I guess its because for me it emasculates my manly man heroes a lil bit. Whats your guys take on my opinion?

*hope I dont offend anyone, if I do just let me know and I will delete my post*

Modifié par Dromgatti, 18 mars 2011 - 09:34 .

[Ryzaki]

Dromgatti wrote...

Am I a terrible person because this bothers me? Is there something wrong with me because my vision of bad ass brooding heroes is slightly tainted when gayness is implemented. I honestly have no ill will I just want your guys opinion. I really don't hate, just wondering what you guys think? Why would this slightly bother me? I guess its because for me it emasculates my manly man heroes a lil bit. Whats your guys take on my opinion?

 

No I don't think your a terrible person. I think your a bit overdramatic over something that is easily avoided. Ra forbid you pick the broken heart option and continue on. Like I rolled my eyes at Hawke's stupid leering grin and continued on. 

Then again I do get sick and tired of the double standards. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2011 - 09:37 .

[Dromgatti]

yeah i can see your point. In that case I would just rather have no sexual content in games at all, I honestly don't see the point. (shrug) its just not fun to see straight sex if your gay and its not fun to see gay sex if your straight. Anders was quite straight in awakening...hmm got a little justice in him and things changed. =-P

[Tamyn]

Ryzaki wrote...
And I assume you were as annoyed with that stupid half smile Hawke gives Isabela as I was. I couldn't even control that. 

I still hate that.

[otherarrow]

I was surprised that Anders was more willing to flirt with my male hawke in the beginning than my female hawke. I thought it was a nice touch, however, I was thinking that him hitting on males were bound to step on some toes.

[Dromgatti]

Its funny to see all the straight guys afraid to speak up haha, I think I am the only one. Well at least on this thread. Oh well we have ever other game, if this makes gay people feel more equal and happy so be it! Enjoy, just please give me a straight option for my NPC's next time hehe...please

Modifié par Dromgatti, 18 mars 2011 - 10:04 .

[Ryzaki]

Tamyn wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
And I assume you were as annoyed with that stupid half smile Hawke gives Isabela as I was. I couldn't even control that. 

I still hate that.

Yeah it's petty of me but whenever I hear about people complaining about easily avoidable dialogue I get irritated. You can shut him down without "tainting" your Hawke. Meanwhile my Hawke has that stupid leer on his/her face even if it's completely out of character. 

Edit: Not at poster I quoted

And I'm not even going into the forced railroading with Shepard and those damn irritating Asari. *grumbles*

And you have straight options. Unless of course a male and female in a relationship is somehow not heterosexual anymore? I must've missed that memo. 

Ignore my bitterness. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 mars 2011 - 10:05 .