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[Seblun]

Playing the game on hard mode (just started on Normal and it was waaay to easy.)

I need a build that can be a great tank, but also not afraid to dish out some damage.

[Coldest]

I'm playing Nightmare and right now I'm allocating 2 str 1 con per level up, until I get to around 42 str then I start dumping all into con.

I'm not sure if I should get other stats like dex or willpower.

[xDSx]

Coldest wrote...

I'm playing Nightmare and right now I'm allocating 2 str 1 con per level up, until I get to around 42 str then I start dumping all into con.

I'm not sure if I should get other stats like dex or willpower.

You may want to put some points into Cunning since it gives you Defence.
Basically chance to dodge an attack. By putting your first 5(or so) points there, youre getting 20% change to dodge normal mob attack. After that, effect diminishes and the more you have, the more you need to get 1% dodge.
But even 20% less damage all the time? Looks like a no brainer to me.

Modifié par xDSx, 09 mars 2011 - 07:31 .

[Seblun]

xDSx wrote...

Coldest wrote...

I'm playing Nightmare and right now I'm allocating 2 str 1 con per level up, until I get to around 42 str then I start dumping all into con.

I'm not sure if I should get other stats like dex or willpower.

You may want to put some points into Cunning since it gives you Defence.
Basically chance to dodge an attack. By putting your first 5(or so) points there, youre getting 20% change to dodge normal mob attack. After that, effect diminishes and the more you have, the more you need to get 1% dodge.
But even 20% less damage all the time? Looks like a no brainer to me.

So 5 points into cunning right from the starts? 20% chance to dodge is nothing to laugh at.

Got any advice on what ablities to take? I guess I'll roll with the 2 str and 1 con every level option.

[tongz]

Won't that 20% dodge diminish into a negligible amount of avoidance in just a few levels though? You would need to put points into cunning almost every level up to maintain a noticeable amount of avoidance.

[MJF JD]

you have to maintain a buildup of cunning in order to maintain an effective level of defense, think its around 1.25 -1.5 point per level up

[soteria]

Yeah, as the previous two posters said, you can't just make an early investment and expect your defense to stay high. It seems like building a cunning tank for handling mooks would work pretty well, though. You might have a str/con tank that is normally dps but has some points in protection switch to sword and board for bosses, since high con seems important for that role.

[jweath]

Cunning has replaced dex for tanks. Also magic now affects magic resistance. Honestly, there is no ability that is not beneficial to a tank now, except maybe willpower. Now that you only replenish with kills and not continually stamina is important but you have stamina potions if you need them. Obviously str and con are needed for armor but cunning is very important. This is the way I would sort the priority for me. NB: I want to use stances like turn blade and minimize damage to the tank, damage dealing is secondary. That is not the only way to build a tank. Note: If Aveline is your tank Con is not as important because you can only upgrade her armor not buy new armor. Another reason why a NPC tank may be preferable.

1. Str.
2. Cunning
3. Constitution (just enough to keep up with armor maybe not at all for Aveline)
4. magic if you can spare it.

If you like big damage parties and want a nuker instead of a healer as a mage you might be able to build an offensive tank since you will drop enemies fast. Then I would say
1. Str
2. Dex
3. constitution (enough for armor)
4. Cunning (CH damage).

I am not sure how much you can get your CH chance up but a tank getting a lot of CH would pull some aggro. Although in this situation a 2H warrior is much better as a tank since they have AOE attacks that can quickly build aggro on a larger number of mobs.

I prefer S&B tanks with a dedicated healer but a 2H tank with a blitzkrieg party could be interesting.

Modifié par jweath, 09 mars 2011 - 05:02 .

[Misaell]

DEX help to incress your chance to avoid attacks or not?

[Coldest]

What's the required str and con for the best equipment in the game? So I can figure out how much str and con I need for my Hawke tank.

[Waltzingbear]

Misaell wrote...

DEX help to incress your chance to avoid attacks or not?

No this is called Defense and is now only provided by cunning. There are no more "secret stats" to be aware of everything is displayed neatly in the attributes panel and that's why there's no reason to elaborate just read it.

On a side note has anyone tested the Shield Defense- Shield Wall talents? it says quite awkwardly:
- 25% dmg resist vs frontal attacks
- 50% dmg resist vs rear attacks

I guess it's just a confusing arrangment of both the talent's bonuses as the Shield Wall description says that Shield Defense no longer reduces only frontal damage. Or do I need to adapt to a "shake my rear end to the big ogre" strategy. Now that would give a new dimension to a fight's strategy.

[MJF JD]

you take more damage from rear attacks, so the bonus brings that to a more manageable damage. You still want to fight enemies head on

[Waltzingbear]

MJF JD wrote...

you take more damage from rear attacks, so the bonus brings that to a more manageable damage. You still want to fight enemies head on

But doesn't Perception eliminate that?

[soteria]

It removes their flanking bonus. Remember, though, that shield defense only gives a damage reduction bonus (25%) from the front. That's where shield wall comes in.

[nicethugbert]

Armor requires str and con. Shields are Armor. You can equip other shields on Aveline. Therefore, con is important to Aveline.

[SpezXVII]

Coldest wrote...

What's the required str and con for the best equipment in the game? So I can figure out how much str and con I need for my Hawke tank.

• Highest armor req is 31 Strength/ 31 Constitution
• Highest 2H req is 41 Strength
• Highest 1H Sword req is 41 Strength
• Highest Shielf req is 32 Strength/ 32 Constitution *

*Aveline has a shield upgrade that requires 34 Strength/ 28 Constitution.