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Adam Sessler on Dragon Age 2: "Not that great a game"


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Wonderllama4 wrote...

who? I really don't care what he says. I know what I like and I don't need other people deciding for me


He's not deciding for you he's giving his opinion ****.

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People who say you follow reviews to determine if you should buy the game should form their own opinions. Face it there is only a few things you need to know about the game to wanna go buy it.
1. Are you interested in the game and find yourself liking what you see in the previews of the game?
2. Form your own opinion about it based on what you see not what reviewers say about. Most of the time you will find that your opinion conflicts with what the reviews say about the game.
3. Think for yourself about the game, dont let Reviewers decide if you should pay for the game. Same goes with Movies. Remember reviewers get paid for their reviews when it comes to G4 and places like that.

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DarthSliver wrote...

People who say you follow reviews to determine if you should buy the game should form their own opinions. Face it there is only a few things you need to know about the game to wanna go buy it.
1. Are you interested in the game and find yourself liking what you see in the previews of the game?
2. Form your own opinion about it based on what you see not what reviewers say about. Most of the time you will find that your opinion conflicts with what the reviews say about the game.
3. Think for yourself about the game, dont let Reviewers decide if you should pay for the game. Same goes with Movies. Remember reviewers get paid for their reviews when it comes to G4 and places like that.


That approach is completely counter-productive; the entire point of reviews is to help the players decide what to buy in this economically perilous time. While one shouldn’t base their decision solely on them, they should at least be a marginal factor in the final decision.

Modifié par Drake Sigar, 09 mars 2011 - 05:50 .


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Drake Sigar wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...

People who say you follow reviews to determine if you should buy the game should form their own opinions. Face it there is only a few things you need to know about the game to wanna go buy it.
1. Are you interested in the game and find yourself liking what you see in the previews of the game?
2. Form your own opinion about it based on what you see not what reviewers say about. Most of the time you will find that your opinion conflicts with what the reviews say about the game.
3. Think for yourself about the game, dont let Reviewers decide if you should pay for the game. Same goes with Movies. Remember reviewers get paid for their reviews when it comes to G4 and places like that.


That approach is completely counter-productive; the entire point of reviews is to help the players decide what to buy in this economically perilous time. While one shouldn’t base their decision solely on them, they should at least factor into the final decision somewhere.


its one thing when one review points out issues with a game.. When there are multiple reviews that are pointing out the exact same flaws about it....at the very least, it's worth looking into further. 

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Drake Sigar wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...

People who say you follow reviews to determine if you should buy the game should form their own opinions. Face it there is only a few things you need to know about the game to wanna go buy it.
1. Are you interested in the game and find yourself liking what you see in the previews of the game?
2. Form your own opinion about it based on what you see not what reviewers say about. Most of the time you will find that your opinion conflicts with what the reviews say about the game.
3. Think for yourself about the game, dont let Reviewers decide if you should pay for the game. Same goes with Movies. Remember reviewers get paid for their reviews when it comes to G4 and places like that.


That approach is completely counter-productive; the entire point of reviews is to help the players decide what to buy in this economically perilous time. While one shouldn’t base their decision solely on them, they should at least factor into the final decision somewhere.

Yes but don't let reviews only be your judge! At least rent the game to get your own idea about the game

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ArmedChimp wrote...

Sakanade wrote...

Adam Sessler is a famous game critic who used to work for G4 Tech TV
If you don't know him, you live under a rock.


Or just not on the American continent


This. But of course America = World *shrug*

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Famous or not, he's just 1 of however many human beings on this planet with an opinion, an opinion that people can choose to ignore if they wish.


Oh they are...despite the fact that the game recieved bad reviews from both game critics and customers, according to your philosophy they should all be disregarded as opinion.

This thread is a perfect example of Bioware fanboys with their head in their butt


Actually the game has received mostly favourable reviews if Metacritic is anything to go by.

This thread is a perfect example of Bioware haters with their head in their butt.

We get it, you can't cope with change. What are you doing here then, move on. Bioware can't please everyone and this is the direction they have chosen to take. Respect that rather than insulting them at every turn because they don't cater soley to you.

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JediMB wrote...

Who is Adam Sessler, and why should I care?


He's Mr. and Mrs. Sessler's son. .

Other than that? I don't know and don't care. I 'think" he might be the guy that does a show on G4, but if so, his opinion is on sale to the highest bidder and therefore worthless.  Just another guy making a living badmouthing everything, and I mean everything, with repeated sarcasm that was old 2 years ago.

Which is why, I estimate, one of the reasons G4 is completely off the air on my satellite.

Modifié par Shadowcran, 09 mars 2011 - 05:58 .


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Shadowcran wrote...

JediMB wrote...

Who is Adam Sessler, and why should I care?


He's Mr. and Mrs. Sessler's son. .

Other than that? I don't know and don't care. I 'think" he might be the guy that does a show on G4, but if so, his opinion is on sale to the highest bidder and therefore worthless.  Just another guy making a living badmouthing everything, and I mean everything, with repeated sarcasm that was old 2 years ago.


you mean yahtzee and avgn?

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I find his review a bit odd. It seems that his two major problems with the game are the repetition of dungeons (which I very much agree with) and the combat. The issue I have is that his criticism about the combat seems to imply that the reason he didn't like it was that he wasn't good at it.

He mentions characters running out of stamina and mana. Why isn't he using stamina potions and lyrium? He says that the inevitably die leaving Hawke alone. How does that happen with healers and potions at your disposal? If you don't buy the proper consumables of course you're going to wipe often. I have made sure to have plenty consumables so far (granted, I'm only 12 hours in) and while I have wiped two or three times, each time was my fault. Not once have I run out of stamina or mana because I stock up on potions.

Not saying the review is bad, but I think Mr. Sessler has let his own shortcomings become a criticism of the game.

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Guess i live under a rock, don't know who he is, don't really care.

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This dude is nobody like all yall old hags that spend leisure time complaining about DA2.Go play chess with the other old folk because its obvious that yall old school P.C bwoys aint never gonna get over the past video game era and this new era, the console era, aint for yall old folks.

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If you read Sessler's entire review you will see that it is a mixed bag. He doesn't call it a bad game, just says that Bioware could have done a better job than they did. He even said he would go back and play it again in a few months. I for one really like the game. My only gripe so far is the lack of equipment options for Hawke's companions.

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Purgatious wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

"Famous" as in like Dr-Phil famous or "famous" as in some guy with a million hits on youtube famous.

I'm guessing because I've never heard of him, its the latter.


famous as in he's been reviewing video games longer than some people on this website have been alive

*or*

famous as in he started reviewing video games longer than Bioware has been making games


Time spent on something doesn't = fame. I've never heard of him, and I've been playing games longer then bioware's been making them too, I guess that means I should have a TV show on some obsure channel...



It depends on what one spends their time on. Have you spent you time nursing several TV shows from the inception of an obscure cable station to the point of where now reviews from that station get plastered on video game sites, banners, and game cases?

I don't know the difference between Yahtzee, the Escapist(I first heard of his reviews while watching G4), or the Angry nerd guy web reviews but if I dislike a review I don't go questioning their relative fame, which is more of a personal attack guised as a question, rather than saying why I find their opinion wrong.

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nelly21 wrote...

I find his review a bit odd. It seems that his two major problems with the game are the repetition of dungeons (which I very much agree with) and the combat. The issue I have is that his criticism about the combat seems to imply that the reason he didn't like it was that he wasn't good at it.

He mentions characters running out of stamina and mana. Why isn't he using stamina potions and lyrium? He says that the inevitably die leaving Hawke alone. How does that happen with healers and potions at your disposal? If you don't buy the proper consumables of course you're going to wipe often. I have made sure to have plenty consumables so far (granted, I'm only 12 hours in) and while I have wiped two or three times, each time was my fault. Not once have I run out of stamina or mana because I stock up on potions.

Not saying the review is bad, but I think Mr. Sessler has let his own shortcomings become a criticism of the game.


Ok, after looking around a tad, I discovered he IS that guy that was on G4. With that in mind, Nelly21 is 100% accurate.

On the show, he griped about everything in RPG's and Strategy titles and admitted he wasn't any good at them. He and a lot of other critics are guilty of this, and it's easy to tell by the way they give out their criticism. Oh, if enough people gush over the game, they'll give it a higher review score.

Stinking at a particular genre doesn't mean that should be the basis of your opinions. I stink at puzzle games and shooters, but if called to review them, I'd try and see it from the angle of those who play those type games. Most times I'd say I liked them, but you won't see my name in any top score contests.

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Eventually Bioware will dump non-welcoming, outdated gaming elements such as interaction so that it can appeal to the movie-going audience who has yet to realize they like rpgs.

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I must live under a rock cause I don't watch video game television! /wrists

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He's fairly positive about character interaction.

http://www.g4tv.com/...ree/?quality=hd

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Honestly, I don't trust anyone that either doesn't like or cant play a real time strategy game. I also laugh at anyone who thinks Fable 2 was a decent rpg.

G4 is a television channel and thus is a business. You can't expect honesty out of something so corporate. Maybe Adam really does like the latest madden rehash or COD rehash over DA2 but thats his problem. There are lots of music "critics" out there that enjoy terrible music and know nothing about music theory or music history. I haven't bought any popular music since middle school. I trust reviewers who I know are similar minded and of above average intelligence. I know this is a generalisation but intelligence and life experience does have a huge effect on personal taste. Also, no being on someone's payroll seems to help people maintain objectivity. I wonder why that could be :)

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Drake Sigar wrote...

DarthSliver wrote...

People who say you follow reviews to determine if you should buy the game should form their own opinions. Face it there is only a few things you need to know about the game to wanna go buy it.
1. Are you interested in the game and find yourself liking what you see in the previews of the game?
2. Form your own opinion about it based on what you see not what reviewers say about. Most of the time you will find that your opinion conflicts with what the reviews say about the game.
3. Think for yourself about the game, dont let Reviewers decide if you should pay for the game. Same goes with Movies. Remember reviewers get paid for their reviews when it comes to G4 and places like that.


That approach is completely counter-productive; the entire point of reviews is to help the players decide what to buy in this economically perilous time. While one shouldn’t base their decision solely on them, they should at least be a marginal factor in the final decision.

Exactly. You cannot buy every game out there. Browsing the net helps me decide. If I am not sure then I'll wait until the price drops. I've invested too much in DA:O not to buy DA2. After that I am pretty much done with the series, unless what I read about its successor convinces me otherwise.

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Some people place FAR too much weight on one video game journo's opinion. I wouldn't rate Sessler up there with the best working at the moment anyway, not by a long shot.

And no I don't only like the really high rating reviews, considering I'm happy with any game I like the look of that gets rated above 75% I was never going to be hard to please in that regard. I tend to go for the content of the review itself. Other than that I'm waiting on RPS verdict at the moment, tend to agree with them a lot of the time.

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I find it incredibly sad and hilarious how you people will instantly nod and agree with any critic who gives Dragon Age 2 praise, but the *instant* one of them says it's not that great of a game you turn right around and say his opinion doesn't matter and that he's a nobody.

What the **** is *wrong* with you? Self-fellating a bit much?

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Shadowcran wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

I find his review a bit odd. It seems that his two major problems with the game are the repetition of dungeons (which I very much agree with) and the combat. The issue I have is that his criticism about the combat seems to imply that the reason he didn't like it was that he wasn't good at it.

He mentions characters running out of stamina and mana. Why isn't he using stamina potions and lyrium? He says that the inevitably die leaving Hawke alone. How does that happen with healers and potions at your disposal? If you don't buy the proper consumables of course you're going to wipe often. I have made sure to have plenty consumables so far (granted, I'm only 12 hours in) and while I have wiped two or three times, each time was my fault. Not once have I run out of stamina or mana because I stock up on potions.

Not saying the review is bad, but I think Mr. Sessler has let his own shortcomings become a criticism of the game.


Ok, after looking around a tad, I discovered he IS that guy that was on G4. With that in mind, Nelly21 is 100% accurate.

On the show, he griped about everything in RPG's and Strategy titles and admitted he wasn't any good at them. He and a lot of other critics are guilty of this, and it's easy to tell by the way they give out their criticism. Oh, if enough people gush over the game, they'll give it a higher review score.

Stinking at a particular genre doesn't mean that should be the basis of your opinions. I stink at puzzle games and shooters, but if called to review them, I'd try and see it from the angle of those who play those type games. Most times I'd say I liked them, but you won't see my name in any top score contests.


This. I don't like First Person Shooters. Not because the games are inherently bad but it's because I know I can't play them. I can't aim and I can barely shoot straight. It's a marvel I was able to get though both ME1 and ME2 with minimal issues.

However, Why would I go someplace and review Call of Duty or some other game in the genre (and trash them mind you) knowing it's not my kind of game? I would try and give it a fair shake but it's really the best I could personally do.

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Eh... I read through Sessler's written review of DA2 on the Xbox 360.  There were things he liked and didn't like.  His major complaints was that he didn't like being stuck in one city for most of the game and the combat.  Specifically he didn't like the drawn out boss battles and battles with lots of waves of enemies.  He was running out of mana and stamina or something along those lines too much.  One thing to remember with video game review scores... especially a system like X-play is there is a lot of error.  They score 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 out of 5.  Versus other places that score 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,... 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100 out of 100.  There's a lot more potential accuracy if there are more subdivisions.

Aekero wrote...

I must live under a rock cause I don't watch video game television! /wrists


You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to \\wrists.

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To each is own. You can't please everybody and you would be stupid to try. Some people didn't like DA O; some people don't even like RPG's for that matter. Just because you feel a certain way about a game, don't expect or be surprised that others don't feel the same way. I love DA O. I also love DA2.