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[DJBare]

Milana_Saros wrote...

You're on the wrong page OP:
http://www.metacriti.../critic-reviews

There, I fixed it for ya.

Not a single negative feedback?, yer riiiight.

[electroban]

The morale of the story is don't buy turd thinking it'll taste like dragon age origins

[JohnstonMR]

Anyone who puts faith in reviews by anyone other than professionals needs their heads examined. The internet is full of folks who would give their own mothers a crappy review just to get themselves noticed online.

[Syrellaris]

captaincow007 wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

captaincow007 wrote...

I don't think people realize why there are people rating it a 1 or 0 does anyone comprehend that maybe it's because this is no longer an rpg game that was expected and is now a mere corridor hack and slash.

When I played it and found this out I basically put the game down and stopped after a few hours. The inventory, combat, graphics overall, dialogue has all taken a step in the wrong direction towards a different genre and therefore in my eyes this game that they portray as an rpg is now rated a 1. Now if they were going for an interactive movie then I would rate it higher.

Wrong.  It's a pimply face 4chan raid.  Nothing more.

You seem to be claiming that 4chan will have no affect on users who read the reviews troll or not it brings up valid problems with the game. I don't know if you are aware of this but 4chan users do have wallets and are consumers and can also influence others who read the reviews.

majority  of 4chan has never  purchased a legal game. So i would take them with a big mountain of salt. 

[Milana_Saros]

DJBare wrote...

Milana_Saros wrote...

You're on the wrong page OP:
http://www.metacriti.../critic-reviews

There, I fixed it for ya.

Not a single negative feedback?, yer riiiight.

One had something like 70 or so points. Reasonable and perhaps a tad negative? Yes. Whiny, trolling and unreasonable? No.

[Gaiseric82]

JohnstonMR wrote...

Anyone who puts faith in reviews by anyone other than professionals needs their heads examined. The internet is full of folks who would give their own mothers a crappy review just to get themselves noticed online.

Taking stock of 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 reader reviewrs trumps any single game reviewing website as far as I'm concerned.

[moilami]

Erani wrote...

WOW those 0s represent such constructive and objective criticism...

LOL, don't really care about troll reviews.

LOL troll reviews, that would actually make a good game review site.

[Morbo]

JohnstonMR wrote...

Anyone who puts faith in reviews by anyone other than professionals needs their heads examined. The internet is full of folks who would give their own mothers a crappy review just to get themselves noticed online.

I put almost as little faith in those reviews by professionals as those by random internet folks.

The only reviews I tend to put faith in are those by people I know from experience to be like-minded to me, by friends and such.

[hohhoi]

Yeah, just saw a Finnish magazine rate DA2 9/10, a bad review? I think not.

[Deadmac]

JohnstonMR wrote...

Anyone who puts faith in reviews by anyone other than professionals needs their heads examined. The internet is full of folks who would give their own mothers a crappy review just to get themselves noticed online.

Professional critics are detached to how players feel.

[Graunt]

I know it's heresy around these parts to make such bold statements, but I'm actually having fun with the game so far.  Another thing that is going to sound like utter trash to those who can't take their nostaliga filters off for a second, is that the game is reminding me quite a bit of KOTOR.  Sure, the combat is obviously different and it's not Star Wars, but it "feels" very similar to me.

Professional critics are detached to how players feel.

You mean detatched from how inexperienced players feel.

Modifié par Graunt, 09 mars 2011 - 04:44 .

[JoePilot]

ironcreed2 wrote...

The intended goal is to troll the game like the bunch of whiny fanboys that they obviously are. The game may not be your cup of tea, but it sure as hell in not a 4/10 and BioWare does not deserve to be punished simply because you and a bunch of purists who want games to remain stagnant don't like a few of the changes that make the game faster, more enjoyable and easier to manage.

That's your opinion.  You have the game you wanted, clearly.  So go enjoy it and allow me to have my opinion.  You're 'enjoyable and easy to manage' is my 'boring, unchallanging and shallow'.

[Milana_Saros]

hohhoi wrote...

Yeah, just saw a Finnish magazine rate DA2 9/10, a bad review? I think not.

Pelit?

Haven't seen the review myself yet but I have great confidence in their reviewers. And many of them have played RPGs for AGES. I dare to say that they know what they are talking about.

[SumoMau]

Passionaticus wrote...

This is a holy war. DA2 needs to flop if we hope for RPG genre to survive.

i agree

[JoePilot]

iamzer0xx wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

Shocking.

And given how early these reviews are, the worst is yet to come.

It's Final Fantasy XIII all over again. Hardly any critics have the balls to score the game based on its merits whereas all of the fans are ripping it into shreds.

Metacritic is a bad website in general. I don't think anyone really cares what they have to say..

LOL, I'm sorry, what?

Publishers use metacritic as gospel.  Some developer's contracts even have clauses that bonuses will only be paid if the game reaches a certain metacritic score. 

[skylr616]

JoePilot wrote...

That's your opinion.  You have the game you wanted, clearly.  So go enjoy it and allow me to have my opinion.  You're 'enjoyable and easy to manage' is my 'boring, unchallanging and shallow'.

I take it you haven't even tried Hardcore mode? DA2 puts DAO to shame as far as a "challenge" goes. Fun stuff!

[skylr616]

JoePilot wrote...

LOL, I'm sorry, what?

Publishers use metacritic as gospel.  Some developer's contracts even have clauses that bonuses will only be paid if the game reaches a certain metacritic score. 

I guess its good then that DA2 has exactly ZERO (0) negative reviews from the critics. YAY

[JoePilot]

skylr616 wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

That's your opinion.  You have the game you wanted, clearly.  So go enjoy it and allow me to have my opinion.  You're 'enjoyable and easy to manage' is my 'boring, unchallanging and shallow'.

I take it you haven't even tried Hardcore mode? DA2 puts DAO to shame as far as a "challenge" goes. Fun stuff!

I'll give it another spin in a little while.  I slogged through about 8 hours so far, not sure I can bear much more.

[ironcreed2]

JoePilot wrote...

ironcreed2 wrote...

The intended goal is to troll the game like the bunch of whiny fanboys that they obviously are. The game may not be your cup of tea, but it sure as hell in not a 4/10 and BioWare does not deserve to be punished simply because you and a bunch of purists who want games to remain stagnant don't like a few of the changes that make the game faster, more enjoyable and easier to manage.

That's your opinion.  You have the game you wanted, clearly.  So go enjoy it and allow me to have my opinion.  You're 'enjoyable and easy to manage' is my 'boring, unchallanging and shallow'.

Indeed, suit yourself. I enjoy challenging games that require me to think, but more importantly I love FUN games. Dragon Age II is fun, while not being completely stripped of having to think either. I have had to pause, move around and manage my party numerous times already. Further, if you still find the game easy, you can always increase the difficulty as well. At any rate, to each their own.

[Milana_Saros]

JoePilot wrote...

Welcome to the internet.  People have opinions.

Awwwwww

The thing is that my standards aren't low. I could never finish Sacred 2 even if all reviewers kept saying that it's a decent game and enjoyable spending of ones time.  However, my standards aren't unrealistic either. I know games change. They have to, it's called "product development". Maybe Bioware made some mistakes. Mistakes they could easily fix if people stopped crying about wanting DA:O 1.02 and actually accepting change and figuring out how to make the new system more comfortable.

I don't have a problem with reasonable, negative comments. All the stupid, immature trolling simply has gone far enough. How many QQ threads are there on the pages of 1 and 2 of this forum, hmmmm?

[skylr616]

I'll just put this here:

skylr616 wrote...

It is important that everyone realizes that there is a (relatively) small population of hardcore fans of the "classical RPG". They fear change.

They are also the exact sort of people that grow up to do game reviews for major publications. The reviews are heavily biased as a result.

They are also the exact sort of people that troll game forums to make sure everyone knows how much this or that game SUCKS because it doesn't fit their tiny definition of what an RPG shoudl be. The polls are heavily biased as a result.

DAO appealed to that minority more so than DA2 does... it doesn't make DAO better than DA2 nor does it ensure the failure of DA2 (in fact, it seems as though DA2 will likely be an even greater success in financial terms).

Simple.

[JoePilot]

Milana_Saros wrote...

JoePilot wrote...

Welcome to the internet.  People have opinions.

Awwwwww

The thing is that my standards aren't low. I could never finish Sacred 2 even if all reviewers kept saying that it's a decent game and enjoyable spending of ones time.  However, my standards aren't unrealistic either. I know games change. They have to, it's called "product development". Maybe Bioware made some mistakes. Mistakes they could easily fix if people stopped crying about wanting DA:O 1.02 and actually accepting change and figuring out how to make the new system more comfortable.

I don't have a problem with reasonable, negative comments. All the stupid, immature trolling simply has gone far enough. How many QQ threads are there on the pages of 1 and 2 of this forum, hmmmm?

You make a valid point, there are a lot of threads on THIS forum that are decidedly less than constructive.  I was refering to the negative metacritic user reviews, a great many of which, while very harsh, are not obvious trolls or 4chan, or whatever.  Just angry fans of the first game.

to wit:

Kordaris
Mar 8, 2011
2
A terrible change in direction from Bioware, linear maps, more
simplification, absurd anime-like combat with teleporting rogues that
makes the whole setting unbelievable, Oversimplification compared to
previous rich detailed title, where you could create numerous different
characters(just one aspect eliminated by Bioware). I highly recommend
to avoid this game if you played DO.

PressEnter
Mar 8, 2011
0
The
first game, Dragon Ageo:Origins, had it's share of problems on the
Xbox360. The combat wasn't so great. But apart from that, it was still
a solid 8/10 experience. I bought this game hoping for a refinement of
the Origins but with the issues ironed out. Instead, I played a game
that felt like it had been funded with change in EA's pocket. The areas
were re-used too much, the voice actors
were sub-par, the characters were boring, the story was dull and the
gameplay was just "Press X to win." In origins I could pick a character
of any race, and go on a sprawling adventure across the landscape. In
DA2 I walk around a desolate, barren city talkign to dull NPCs while
wishing I was playing something else. Save your money

Modifié par JoePilot, 09 mars 2011 - 04:55 .

[moilami]

Voidlight wrote...

Hilarious.

Lol, there is no reason why those reviews could not be honest reviews. For I am sure not everyone is BW lapdog.