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[AbsolutGrndZer0]

danbosko wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

danbosko wrote...

8/10 sounds about right, but thats only because I wasn't expecting much after ME2 and DA:O.

I would like to dissect your brain to see what is your problem.

ME2 is a worse KotR and DA:O is a bad Balders Gate.  If I never played Biowares early games I'd have no brand loyalty and I'm sure I wouldn't be buying they mediocraty they spam now.   And its not really that their games are bad now, they're just not nearly as good as they could be if they put more time/effort into em.  Really its the publishers fault.  

In a perfect nerd gamer world Blizz+Bioware+Infinity Ward would get together and make their own publishing company.

A perfect world people would play the games they enjoy, not play the games they do not enjoy, and not think their opinion is the only one that matters.

I for one loved Mass Effect and I love Mass Effect 2.  I also like Dragon Age II so far.

[Lord_Saulot]

BIO18 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
Honestly, I think it's still too early to tell. Right now, we're getting reactionary feedback. Over the next couple of weeks, this will change from gut-reaction hyperbole to people taking the time to give us more detail and specifics about what they liked and didn't like.

So for Stanley Woo the only reviews worth listening are the positive ones .
So all the feedback we're giving back now is useless ? Its just reaction ? A lot of people have made very good reviews and given their opinion in a very constructive matter . But they don't count ?
So you are just going to wait for all the bad comments to go away ? And then just take all the good ones ?
Not considering these comments , that you call "reactions" is very narrow minded !

That isn't what he said at all.  He was never talking about the constructive criticism (which is tiny minority of the negative opinions being given now), but all the kneejerk "worst game ever" spam, which was exactly the same when DAO came out.

[Rockpopple]

If you're talking about all the 4s and 0s the game is getting from Metacritic users - those guys had already made up their opinion about the game months ago. It's not gonna change, or get better. Why should I give a [darn] what they think?

Critically, this game is acclaimed. Personally, I'm enjoying the [bejeebers] out of it. And since there don't seem to be any moderators here, I'll just say it: [Please have a nice day.]

[Swearing removed.]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 mars 2011 - 05:58 .

[Possessedkitten]

danbosko wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

danbosko wrote...

8/10 sounds about right, but thats only because I wasn't expecting much after ME2 and DA:O.

I would like to dissect your brain to see what is your problem.

ME2 is a worse KotR and DA:O is a bad Balders Gate.  If I never played Biowares early games I'd have no brand loyalty and I'm sure I wouldn't be buying they mediocraty they spam now.   And its not really that their games are bad now, they're just not nearly as good as they could be if they put more time/effort into em.  Really its the publishers fault.  

In a perfect nerd gamer world Blizz+Bioware+Infinity Ward would get together and make their own publishing company.

Infinity ward.........Not another COD fanboy.

[GunClubGirl]

elecmanexe001 wrote...

Speeding through the game and then giving bad reviews and comments has little merit. Wait for people who gave the game time to review it and you'll get more constructive thoughts. Right now it seems most are bashing because it's the 'cool' thing to do. For every bad review or comment there are people enjoying the game as well, not commenting cause they are playing.

I think you're right. I think a lot of people who are already finished sped through it, main plotline only. I got it at midnight launch and played non-stop (even played hooky from work) with only a 4 hour nap until last night (when I stopped to sleep) and I'm still on Act I doing every quest I can get my hands on. I think there is a wave of "cool thing to do" going on because the hate makes no sense in my mind as someone who is taking my time and really enjoying the game. I totally understand, and agree, that some things from Origins should have been left alone. But there are other things that are better. And a lot is very similar, so I don't know why someone who loved Origins wouldn't at least like this. And as for bugs? I've encountered NONE on the PS3. I don't know, maybe people expected perfection and are mad they didn't get that, even though not a game on the planet is going to give them that.

[BIO18]

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 09 mars 2011 - 06:00 .

[Cloaking_Thane]

No problems at all with the game for me other than a few targeting issues and talents not activating (happens very rarely)

I find all the characters endearing in their own way and quite enjoy all the banter and the fact they have their own lives in a manner of speaking. There is a toggle for everything which makes it feel like the older games where you do have to go around and attempt to interact with everthing under the sun...

People are hard to please, but this game is far from bad....

[17thknight]

Rockpopple wrote...

Critically, this game is acclaimed. .

Uh...no it's not.
The aggregates are severely down.

[suprhomre]

My bet is that someone one, somewhere in BIOWARE'S building is thinking, I told you so for two years ago.

[Lord_Darkmoon]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

A perfect world people would play the games they enjoy, not play the games they do not enjoy, and not think their opinion is the only one that matters.

I for one loved Mass Effect and I love Mass Effect 2.  I also like Dragon Age II so far.

But this isn't how it works.
People play a game, like it, even love it and hear about a sequel. They expect everything to be grander, better, they expect more. They are excited. Then they hear that some of the features they loved about the first game are cut or reduced. They get disappointed. Then they play the game and see that this is not what they wanted, what they expected and that they don't like what they see. So now they should just shup up? No, they want to voice their opinion and they have every right to do so.

[Lumikki]

Yeah, but the purpose isn't about give constructive feedback or make neutral review. The point is to get everyone else also hate what you self hate and love what you self love. That's the game.

[Rockpopple]

Metacritics Dragon Age 2 scores:

PC - 84
XBOX 360 - 83
PS3 - 83

Gamerankings DA 2 scores

PC - 84.07 (90.5)
XBOX - 82.50 (86.85)
PS3 - 82.05 (DAO 86.28)

You do know the difference between down and severely down, right? So critics generally agree that it's not as good as DA:O. They also agree that it's a good to great game. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[BIO18]

Rockpopple wrote...

Metacritics Dragon Age 2 scores:

PC - 84
XBOX 360 - 83
PS3 - 83

Gamerankings DA 2 scores

PC - 84.07 (90.5)
XBOX - 82.50 (86.85)
PS3 - 82.05 (DAO 86.28)

You do know the difference between down and severely down, right? So critics generally agree that it's not as good as DA:O. They also agree that it's a good to great game. The two are not mutually exclusive.

You know its easy just picking the good reviews anybody can do that . I can find bad one just as easy pal

[Cloaking_Thane]

except those are aggregates....

[Rockpopple]

Those are AGGREGATE sites, you moron. They take ALL reviews in, the good and the bad.

Are you so blind in your hatred that you don't even know what an aggregate site does? You've never heard of Rotten Tomatoes?

Cheesus Mice.

[STiAT]

Well, I've played games with a score of 64, which I did enjoy a lot of more than some titles with 80 and above.

Depends on the player type you are, if you will like it or not. I don't know yet if I will like it or not, but I'm definitely not judging a game upon "reviews", and I will have my own opinion - what do I care if reviews match my own impressions?

There are for sure players who do not like the changes in DA2, some will like it. The only thing I'm concerned is, that people write it's short. I liked the length of DA:O, so this could concern me.. but we'll se.

[Descara]

BIO18 wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Metacritics Dragon Age 2 scores:

PC - 84
XBOX 360 - 83
PS3 - 83

Gamerankings DA 2 scores

PC - 84.07 (90.5)
XBOX - 82.50 (86.85)
PS3 - 82.05 (DAO 86.28)

You do know the difference between down and severely down, right? So critics generally agree that it's not as good as DA:O. They also agree that it's a good to great game. The two are not mutually exclusive.

You know its easy just picking the good reviews anybody can do that . I can find bad one just as easy pal

You do know those are aggregate sites?


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Modifié par Descara, 09 mars 2011 - 03:03 .

[David Gaider]

Lord_Saulot wrote...
That isn't what he said at all.  He was never talking about the constructive criticism (which is tiny minority of the negative opinions being given now), but all the kneejerk "worst game ever" spam, which was exactly the same when DAO came out.

That's indeed the case. I remember the flurry of hate on the forums right after DAO was released-- had you been by the forums then, you would have thought it was the worst game ever.

And, yes, of course constructive criticism is wonderful. But at this stage we see precious little of it, I'm afraid. That's pretty normal.

[BIO18]

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Saulot wrote...
That isn't what he said at all.  He was never talking about the constructive criticism (which is tiny minority of the negative opinions being given now), but all the kneejerk "worst game ever" spam, which was exactly the same when DAO came out.

That's indeed the case. I remember the flurry of hate on the forums right after DAO was released-- had you been by the forums then, you would have thought it was the worst game ever.

And, yes, of course constructive criticism is wonderful. But at this stage we see precious little of it, I'm afraid. That's pretty normal.

Well Im afraid its not . Maybe some are not fully constructive yes . But they do come from the heart . 

[Cloaking_Thane]

Yea I mean resonance of fate got worse scores than FFXIII, and IMO its a better game, and I enjoyed both.....

I guess you would be hard pressed to find game titles I dislike that encompass the entire RPG genre

[David Gaider]

BIO18 wrote...
Well Im afraid its not . Maybe some are not fully constructive yes . But they do come from the heart . 

And it's great to see some people so passionate, sure. If some peoples' hearts are full of that much bile, however, they might want to see someone about that.

[Dubya75]

David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Saulot wrote...
That isn't what he said at all.  He was never talking about the constructive criticism (which is tiny minority of the negative opinions being given now), but all the kneejerk "worst game ever" spam, which was exactly the same when DAO came out.

That's indeed the case. I remember the flurry of hate on the forums right after DAO was released-- had you been by the forums then, you would have thought it was the worst game ever.

And, yes, of course constructive criticism is wonderful. But at this stage we see precious little of it, I'm afraid. That's pretty normal.

Ah! Thanks for confirming this Mr G! You the man!

[Giantdeathrobot]

Review embargos are industry standard, almost all AAA games have them (hell, DA2 was pretty generous in this regard with several German mags getting their copies in advance it seems). So please stop acting like it's a conspiracy.

Also, if I look at 4chan and the Metacritic user score, Stanley is pretty right in saying actual constructive criticism is not exactly rampant for the moment. Since this is a 30-40 hours game that has been out to the public since about that time, I do not imagine trustworthy user reviews come before one or two days. Angry dorks spamming 1's and 0's is utterly unconsequential in my view of a game.

[mesmerizedish]

BIO18 wrote...

Well Im afraid its not . Maybe some are not fully constructive yes . But they do come from the heart . 

Hmm... you know what else comes from the heart?

Contempt.

[XX55XX]

David Gaider wrote...

BIO18 wrote...
Well Im afraid its not . Maybe some are not fully constructive yes . But they do come from the heart . 

And it's great to see some people so passionate, sure. If some peoples' hearts are full of that much bile, however, they might want to see someone about that.

Mr. Gaider, I understand that you want to avoid reading criticism - it's only natural for humans to avoid critique, since it damages the ego, but some of it is completely valid, sir. Especially those concerning the unfocused and unconventional narrative.

I know you were the lead writer, so my question is: Why is the narrative so hollow compared to the first game?