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Russalka

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I respect your opinion. Respect that of others as well.

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Leonick91

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While the pic in the OP worried me I havnt seen that one myself and what I have seen I like.
I like them being easily recognizable as elves while not being the standard fantasy elves or just long humans with pointy ears, they along with dwarfs and qunari in the DA universe feel like unique races.

Modifié par Leonick91, 11 mars 2011 - 06:02 .


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Satyricon331

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Luzeka wrote...
Only elf that looks good in Dragon age 2 is Fenris.


True, but even he doesn't look that great.

And I don't understand the people who are saying they like the look because the elves are now different than humans.  That rationale could justify any non-human look.  So why not just turn them into lizard people?  At least then they wouldn't be so repulsive.  Alright, I'm being a little snarky, but I'm genuinely perplexed as to that particular rationale (I get some people just like midgit Na'vi, but why justify it that way when it's so non-specific?).  

And if you're going to make the elves not beautiful to humans, why make the dwarves an underground species, why make ogres violent, why make demons bad?  Just name them something else... like "navi."  

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Russalka wrote...

I respect your opinion. Respect that of others as well.


You've got to show some to earn some.

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Marionetten wrote...

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... Can we unmake it?

It's me or she has a faint beard and no eyebrows? :sick:

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I really find this "redesign" creatively bankrupt and utterly horrid. It fails in every respect, they don't look distinctive enough to justify such radical alterations to both the facial proportions and the body shape. They don't fit the lore because they are down right horrifying to look at and many of the faces look like they were slapped together in the toolset in about 30 seconds. It's just lazy work and poorly thought out ideas combining in some kind of nexus of crap.

They are Navi rip offs, ripping off something that others haven't ripped off before does not make it original. So if you're not going to be original then rip things off in an upward direction don't start with Lord of the Rings and work your way down to Avatar.

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DocDoomII wrote...
It's me or she has a faint beard and no eyebrows? :sick:


Can't unsee the beard! Pretty sure it's just fail blush usage though, outlining the perfect beard.

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I actually like the elves in DA II, one of the few things I like in DA2. The problem with most "elves" in other media is that that they keep putting pointy ears on humans and calling them elves. These fit the exotic/slender body described in books.

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Russalka wrote...
But they are supposed to look different, not really human.


They certainly got that much right..... ^_^

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a. What the heck is a Navi? Is it some WoW thing?
b. Dwarves have odd body proportions - unless you hang around a lot of very short sumo wrestlers so the notion that all humanoids will have "human body proportions doesn't work and that is why arguing that they don't fit some human golden mean is pointless. That adherence to a 100% human body proportion is why they look like short humans with bad tats in the first game. They are different and I know the (creepy) elf fans won't like that they aren't just the radiant, pure skinned elves of the Tolkein world but aren't we about burned out on that motiff by now?

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MaidOfWynne

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BobSmith101 wrote...

They were going for the anime elf look with the ears and failed badly.

http://www.animewape...-316/page/7743/


On that particular note, there's nothing wrong with Alleyne. ;) But SHE lives in a battle book and anime.  She was not meant to creep into Kirkwall.

I'm sure there are others out there who love the anime elf look we now have in Dragon Age II,  but I'd keep that design in anime, and keep it out of DA.  Sadly the elves I've seen so far in the game are severely creepy (with necks thicker than their arms, how?), and the only saving grace for not being able to use my city elf warden is that she died before this terrible new-look Blight occurred upon her race. ^_^

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Well, here's an idea. The elves look so weird because our lovely dwarven storyteller telling our story likes to exaggerate. In good and bad ways.

I do think they look weird but I don't let it bother me too much. The so often lacking facial expressions and emotions during conversations annoy me more to be honest.

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17thknight wrote...

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Pretty terrible isn't it?


I knew this game was dragon effect, how else do you explain Hawke being with an alien.

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Hate the nosejobs (with a passion, it doesn't even make sense, lore-wise).
Neutral feelings about the body (would personally like a little more meat on their bones).
Like the ears.

The body and ears are already in the lore (Elves are a poibty-eared, lithe peaople who excel at poverty - Paraphrase from Sten), but nowhere is it said that they are the descendants of....
Rhinos? Klingons? I don't know what to say, HATE IT!

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Dirk the Crusader wrote...

Well, here's an idea. The elves look so weird because our lovely dwarven storyteller telling our story likes to exaggerate. In good and bad ways.


I seriously hope this is the case!
This, and the exploding corpses when you crit someone to death.

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I like the look of Merrill but most of the rest are not great looking. It really does look like someone tried to make them look like the tribe from Avatar (that is the Navi I take it?)
I do actually like the new look Qunari (which surprised me) and the even the darkspawn I like fine.

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Good grief, I would have said that they were wit with the ugly stick but in this case they were run over by the ugly bus, which reversed back over them to make sure the job was done properly. Image IPB

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Now I know what the trees in the alienages are:
They are ugly-trees, and every single elf has fallen, nose first, from it and hit every single branch on the way down!

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Beerfish wrote...

I like the look of Merrill but most of the rest are not great looking. It really does look like someone tried to make them look like the tribe from Avatar (that is the Navi I take it?)
I do actually like the new look Qunari (which surprised me) and the even the darkspawn I like fine.


I totally got this vibe too, especially when you see the warriors with the mohawk things.

Modifié par Merced652, 11 mars 2011 - 09:55 .


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Kendaric Varkellen

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The elven redesign is absolutely horrible in my opinion. Elves are supposed to be beautiful (according to DA lore), which these anorexic Na'vi mutants definitely aren't.
Every other racial redesign in DA2 I'm fine with, the Qunari look great and I like the Darkspawn as well.

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I absolutely hate the new elven art design, the elves from DA:O were MUCH better looking and don't have Avatar noses.

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I like the idea of elves looking .. different, and being more than pointy-eared humans. The execution is less than great though.

They look creepy, and this might well be one the reasons the humans deport them into alienages - they feel uncomfortable looking at them, just like we do .. interesting stuff.


But indeed, they seem to be inspired by the navi. Never really liked those.
Also, they are a slap into the face of continuity. Either they're attractive to humans, or they're not.

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ValentineMSmith

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I was really looking forward to BW using this "redesign" to make the elves fit better with the existing lore. The Qunari finally have horns, like the Ogres do! So logically the art dept. would realize that elves in Thedas should be tall and slender (since the Shrieks are taller than humans). That would be a great way to remake the elves to make use of the new art budget and direction.

Instead, I've got Merrill with a Welsh accent, all the other Dalish with Irish accents, and I can't see Merrill as a LI when she weighs about 50#. Seriously, eat a sandwich or something?

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OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

You guys are killing me! :lol::lol::lol:

SirCrashalot wrote...

Good grief, I would have said that they were wit with the ugly stick but in this case they were run over by the ugly bus, which reversed back over them to make sure the job was done properly. Image IPB


Tony77A wrote...

Now I know what the trees in the alienages are:
They are ugly-trees, and every single elf has fallen, nose first, from it and hit every single branch on the way down!


Modifié par eucatastrophe, 15 mars 2011 - 01:44 .


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Marionetten wrote...

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... Can we unmake it?


Oh God.  I think I'm going to be sick.