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Maj.Pain007 wrote...

Can someone explain to me all the redesign that went with the game? Some characters that needed a redesign (Flemeth, and Isabella) I can understand but they totally went in different directions with EVERYTHING ELSE. Why is that?

IIrc, they have changed the base head models from the first game in order to get better facial animations. That in itself wouldn't really require actual change to the shape of these models, but i'd guess they were trying to improve the appearances across the board while at it, by tweaking these shapes. And you know what they say about the good intentions -- in the end it didn't work out very well by the looks of it.

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The ironic thing about all this, is that the characters are suppose to look better in DA2. Quite frankly the Elves in DAO are much more preferable than this.

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I believe the dalish elves have been changed into leprechauns, or so the new accents would suggest.

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AkiKishi

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It's like someone tried to draw an anime elf and never quite got it right.... Ok they got it very badly wrong.

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I think i will not be able to sleep tonight, An elve may be under my bed

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I don't mind the noses, so much. It differentiates them from humans, makes them a race of their own. It's their scrawny builds that bug me. Their arms just fall so flat to their sides - they're all built like 7-year-old girls. It makes you wonder how anyone could consider them a threat at all.

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The new elves are fine. At least they're not just humans with different ears and slightly smaller... or the standard "beatiful" type. I'm sick of such...
And... if you think that's ugly, check Oblivion's elves. Dear [insert deity or whatever you will here]... Some dunmer in that game are just so damn horrible (Morrowind did the looks right (not quite standard fantasy elves, though close), Better Heads mod even more so)

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Also:
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Reminds me of:
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Personally i'm not against the crazy new elves. It's refreshing that the elves don't look amazing and ethereal and sublime and basically, Tolkienian. They are after all an oppressed race, and I certainly get that feeling, and can also see where the human prejudice against them would have come from with the new aesthetic.

Modifié par pumpkinman13, 10 mars 2011 - 12:13 .


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17thknight wrote...

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Pretty terrible isn't it?

lol look at hawke face, he looks like he wants to gtfo of there XD

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pumpkinman13 wrote...

Personally i'm not against the crazy new elves. It's refreshing that the elves don't look amazing and ethereal and sublime and basically, Tolkienian. They are after all an oppressed race, and I certainly get that feeling, and can also see where the human prejudice against them would have come from with the new aesthetic.


They sure have Tolkeinesque names though. It's not so much that they aren't pretty, there were plenty of pretty average looking elves in DA:O. It's that their proportions are just weird. And not weird in an "other species" way, weird in a "wouldn't function in reality" sort of way. I don't think they'd need to look so radically different from humans to have prejudice set on them. It's also been established that humans and elves are biologically compatible to the point of being able to have children, would they really need to look that different?

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pumpkinman13 wrote...

It's refreshing that the elves don't look amazing and ethereal and sublime and basically, Tolkienian.

Problem is, as it's already pointed out multiple times in this very thread, the game itself repeatedly makes a point the elves are supposed to look appealing, graceful and whatnot to humans. So when they aren't, well. It makes about as much sense as would having everyone in DA2 wax lyrical about quality of elf shoes.

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edit: removed

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tmp7704 wrote...

pumpkinman13 wrote...

It's refreshing that the elves don't look amazing and ethereal and sublime and basically, Tolkienian.

Problem is, as it's already pointed out multiple times in this very thread, the game itself repeatedly makes a point the elves are supposed to look appealing, graceful and whatnot to humans. So when they aren't, well. It makes about as much sense as would having everyone in DA2 wax lyrical about quality of elf shoes.


The books perpetuate the "humans think elves are hawt" thing as well =]

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I for one welcome the more stylized art design of DA2.

You can make ugly screen shots in ME2 as well.

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See I think the majority of the elves (minus a couple fugly ones) are fantastic and very beautiful in an exotic way. I love the difference.

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This thread makes me lolz. This entire thread is one giant troll.

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Skellimancer wrote...

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win. just win.

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I guess people in Ferelden just have different standards in beauty than we have. I rather keep this change than making them look like humans again.

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Druscylla wrote...

17thknight wrote...

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Pretty terrible isn't it?


He has such a dead and damned expression...


Dude , he looked down and was like , damn she wears padded armour. 
those are 2 chocolate chips on white bread .....
You know that is what he is thinking...  


Either that or ... 

This one is a  2 bagger.......
One for her head, and one for mine in case her's falls off..... 

Modifié par PurpleJesus, 10 mars 2011 - 08:19 .


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Sen4lifE wrote...

I think they wanted to define the difference between human and elf a little more.  As in, make elves a little more than just humans with pointy ears.  I agree, they overdid it a little bit, but I think I see what they were going for.


This. I welcomed it that Bioware wanted to makeover the elves, but it did go a bit far with their creation. Some of the elves look nice and some look horrid. I definitely agree they are way too skinny, but I do appreciate that Bioware tried to make them feel different from a human.

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They remind me of house elves a bit ;P

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I thought Merrill looked pretty good until I got her clothes off.

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Skellimancer wrote...

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I knew it I'm not the only one who thought of this each time they saw an elf! :?

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Sharkey1337 wrote...

don't even get me started on what they did to Sandal


Need pics... :P

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

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If this is what they were aiming for, they missed by a mile. Elves in Record of Lodoss War were awesome.


I don't think that was what the< were going for. But they should have.

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