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Skellimancer wrote...

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I was thinking excetly same thing, the elves are just cheap Avatar ripoff.

BTW these are Elves from norse mythology

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Modifié par Starchs, 11 mars 2011 - 01:36 .


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That Norse elves art is very similar to what I went for in my elf wardens, well, slighter jaws and more defined mouths. I like them in DA2 in the context of everything looking slightly exaggerated and Flash toonish, but if they'd soften their facial features and just slightly bulk them up to maybe 3/4 that, they'd get that general feel and hit my personal sweet spot. Here's hoping for DA3, along with a return to multiple origins.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

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If this is what they were aiming for, they missed by a mile. Elves in Record of Lodoss War were awesome.


I don't think that was what the< were going for. But they should have.

Deedit is smexy fine.<3<3<3

Generic beautified human with brighter color scheme and pointy ears. That's what Bioware want to avoid, I think. I like pretties, but I'm pretty tired of seeing those types of elves. I don't mind elves in DA2. But considering the fact that human in Thedas think elves are more beautiful and attractive than themselves, ... I think Bioware did something off in new design of elves. 

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What has been seen... cannot be unseen :o

Seriously who the hell thought it was remotely attractive? Or even believeable?

I thought Merril looked pretty horrid from the previews, but Id ecided to reserve judgement till after the game came out.

It's not even a question of beauty but of basic anatomy and bone structure. Who thought that the anorexic skeletal look was attractive?

On another note, these characetr portraits are garbage. Dunno why people are using them. 

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I agree, the new Elfs don't look good. :(

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So, the more I play DA2 the more I think Elves are Fantasy jews... particularly with all the talking about the People... and how the language seems to draw on Hebrew for a base.

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Pretty terrible isn't it?


What is worse than terrible?  Cause this is way worse than terrible.....She is clearly anorexic, and she looks like a child.....

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I liked how the elves looked, until I saw what Merrill wore in her romance scene. There is a fine line between thin and straight up emaciated.

Surprisingly, I like their slightly alien faces. Like, a lot. I think it might be one of my favorite changes to the races in this game. They're more animilistic. Kinda like the Na'vi form Avatar, except I hated that movie.

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mya11 wrote...

I prefer this elve for modeling :wub:


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oh look, a good looking elven dual wielding warrior, so not in the canon anymore :crying:

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Whoah!

I was saying Merill is freaking hideous but noooo fanboys had to go all personal on me for bashing their "soon-to-be" video game girl friend.

GOOD LOOKING ELVES:

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BUTT UGLY ELVES:

[Insert pictures of all Dragon Age 2 Elves here]

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Romantiq wrote...

Whoah!

I was saying Merill is freaking hideous but noooo fanboys had to go all personal on me for bashing their "soon-to-be" video game girl friend.

GOOD LOOKING ELVES:

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BUTT UGLY ELVES:

[Insert pictures of all Dragon Age 2 Elves here]


How....dare... you.....

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joriandrake wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I prefer this elve for modeling :wub:


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oh look, a good looking elven dual wielding warrior, so not in the canon anymore :crying:


Its Aribeth dude. NWN breddah

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You know, I'm exceptionally displeased with this game. I am infuriated with what I see as slip-shod design, rushed work, and general slacking. I really can't get worked up about Bioware actually putting effort into the game, even if I disagree with it.

That said, I quite like the new elves. They look very alien, and it's much easier to view them as "other" than as just humans with knifey ears.

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Romantiq wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I prefer this elve for modeling :wub:


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oh look, a good looking elven dual wielding warrior, so not in the canon anymore :crying:


Its Aribeth dude. NWN breddah


I knooow <_<


please just stop for a moment and think about the meaning behind my comment

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I like elves that don't look like generic humans with pointy ears.

/shrug

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Evaluating elves based on how good looking they are != evaluating elves based on how distinctive they appear

The former is... vaguely creepy.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Evaluating elves based on how good looking they are != evaluating elves based on how distinctive they appear

The former is... vaguely creepy.


Haven't you heard? Something has to be hot or else it's stupid.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I like elves that don't look like generic humans with pointy ears.

/shrug

and I like elves that don't look like a badly made crossover between anime elves and abnominations

(I myself wouldn't mind if they would properly look like anime elves they would still look alien enough in a non-manga setting but at same time look good)

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joriandrake wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I like elves that don't look like generic humans with pointy ears.

/shrug

and I like elves that don't look like a badly made crossover between anime elves and abnominations

(I myself wouldn't mind if they would properly look like anime elves they would still look alien enough in a non-manga setting but at same time look good)


I looked up anime elves and saw that most of the people who play elven characters and were upset the change seem to focus on creating similar looking elves.

Which look like 12 year old (human) girls with big eyes and pointy ears that are overly sexualized.

I don't like that at all.

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They did look different from humans in Dragon Age Origins. Smaller frame. Different faces. Duh? Your eyes require them to be completely ridiculous and anorexic to be considered different from human?

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Dave of Canada wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I like elves that don't look like generic humans with pointy ears.

/shrug

and I like elves that don't look like a badly made crossover between anime elves and abnominations

(I myself wouldn't mind if they would properly look like anime elves they would still look alien enough in a non-manga setting but at same time look good)


I looked up anime elves and saw that most of the people who play elven characters and were upset the change seem to focus on creating similar looking elves.

Which look like 12 year old (human) girls with big eyes and pointy ears that are overly sexualized.

I don't like that at all.


even in anime/manga there are various styles, the elf drawing/screenshot on page 2 of this thread is also an anime elf

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Romantiq wrote...

They did look different from humans in Dragon Age Origins. Smaller frame. Different faces. Duh? Your eyes require them to be completely ridiculous and anorexic to be considered different from human?


When I first started playing Origins as a human noble, I thought Iona was a human for the longest time. When I decided to speak to her in the study after 3-4 playthroughs, I realized to my shock that she was an elf. Simply because her ears were covered, I was unable to tell she was an elf and I'm not the only one who feels the same.

I can make a human character and elf character look exactly alike except for the ears, which is their only unique trait. It's all that stands out for an elf, they are human with pointy ears. If you gave Soris some human ears, he'd be as human as Alistair and Teagan.

I much prefer the DA2 elves and I don't consider them ridiculous and anorexic, I consider themselves different than humans and lithe. Which fits with what we've heard because elves aren't supposed to look like humans, they are supposed to appear exotic and elegant.

If I had the choice between the DA:O elves or DA2 elves, I'd always pick the DA2 elves. I don't care about anybody's city elf / dalish elf Warden looking any different or their interests in things looking like this. I'm a fan of different species looking different.

joriandrake wrote...

even in anime/manga there are various styles, the elf drawing/screenshot on page 2 of this thread is also an anime elf


Looks like a stereotypical standard of human beauty instead of an interesting race, if you removed the ears they'd look like any other anime character.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 11 mars 2011 - 08:12 .


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Romantiq wrote...

They did look different from humans in Dragon Age Origins. Smaller frame. Different faces. Duh? Your eyes require them to be completely ridiculous and anorexic to be considered different from human?


atm they look more like Gollum than elves

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Dave of Canada wrote...


Looks like a stereotypical standard of human beauty instead of an interesting race, if you removed the ears they'd look like any other anime character.

well, if you place an anime character in a western-style setting/game wouldn't it look alien enough? what I say is that this could properly be made to implement anime-ish elves into DA

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joriandrake wrote...

Romantiq wrote...

They did look different from humans in Dragon Age Origins. Smaller frame. Different faces. Duh? Your eyes require them to be completely ridiculous and anorexic to be considered different from human?


atm they look more like Gollum than elves


Meh its okay. I am sure modding community will fix stuff for devs again with this awesome..toolset...Oh wait.........nvm :?