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What's the Archdemon's name?


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Altima Darkspells

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The Archdemons are (named after) the Old Gods.  The first one, who came the closest to conquering the world, was named Dumot, the greatest of the Old Gods.  There were others that were mentioned whose names I can't quite remember right now.

Anyway, the reason I ask is because I am wondering if I missed the reference to its name, or if it was simply left out.

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Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty.

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Dark Specie wrote...

Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty.

Come to think of it, I can't imagine how ugly the other archdemons must have been.

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KnightofPhoenix

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Dark Specie wrote...

Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty.


My kid is going to be very beautiful then lol

Now that I think of it.
Flemeth = obessed with beauty. So is Morrigan.
Flemeth = it was her plan to "save" the spirit of the old God from destruction.
Old God = dragon of beauty before corruption.
Morrigan: "Some things are worth preserving".

Anyone else see the link?

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JohnF1986 wrote...
Come to think of it, I can't imagine how ugly the other archdemons must have been.


Well, consider that an Archdemon is in essence a corrupted Old God, so that it would look hideous is not surpising. Morrigan more or less claims that one reason that she and her mother wants to save the Old God is because it's not the same thing as the corrupted Archdemon. Whether it's a good or bad thing, now, that's up for debate... Posted Image

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Dark Specie wrote...

Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty.


My kid is going to be very beautiful then lol

Now that I think of it.
Flemeth = obessed with beauty. So is Morrigan.
Flemeth = it was her plan to "save" the spirit of the old God from destruction.
Old God = dragon of beauty before corruption.
Morrigan: "Some things are worth preserving".

Anyone else see the link?


And that's why the Dark Ritual is the good ending.

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Sarah1281

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Was Flemeth obsessed with beauty? We know it didn't seem to do her any favors and she broke Morrigan's mirror that encourage vanity.

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Emerald Melios

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Was Flemeth obsessed with beauty? We know it didn't seem to do her any favors and she broke Morrigan's mirror that encourage vanity.


Morrigan certainly was (though she tried to deny it).

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Was Flemeth obsessed with beauty? We know it didn't seem to do her any favors and she broke Morrigan's mirror that encourage vanity.


I think it might be Leliana when she is telling the story of Flemeth, that she says how Flemeth laments her lost beauty or something like that...

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That might be it. I've always skipped over Leliana's stories after the first playthrough.

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I always take Leliana's Flemeth story with a grain of salt, because Morrigan will tell you the exact same story . . but it's not even remotely the same. They both agree that Flemeth was beautiful when she was young, though.

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KnightofPhoenix

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Why is it most villains get to have a Semitic name?

Urthemiel is a Semitic name (El means God). And it turns out that Sovereign's (from Mass Effect) real name was Nazarah, another Semitic name, which comes from the Semitic word "nazar" = sight.

Are we good villain material or something?

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 15 mai 2010 - 11:28 .


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Theres a codex somewhere in DAO with all the names of the dragons i believe.

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Are we good villain material or something?

That's been going on for CENTURIES. Merchant of Venice and Oliver Twist, anyone? Though personally I found Shylock to be the most reasonable and likeable character in the play.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Why is it most villains get to have a Semitic name?

Urthemiel is a Semitic name (El means God). And it turns out that Sovereign's (from Mass Effect) real name was Nazarah, another Semitic name, which comes from the Semitic word "nazar" = sight.

Are we good villain material or something?

Well Knight . . . how intimidated would you be if you had to fight an Archdemon named George?

Modifié par thegreateski, 15 mai 2010 - 11:41 .


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Yeah, the Dread Archdemon Wesley really woudn't be commanding a lot of respect, either.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 15 mai 2010 - 11:46 .


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KnightofPhoenix

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I guess I should take it as a compliment that our names do command respect lol

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I vote to change his name to Bob. Or Bubba.

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Jeff, God of Biscuits!



Points to whoever gets that.



Otherwise, the -el suffix is, to a Western society influenced for centuries by Christian and Jewish traditions, epic. It sounds archaic and impressive, because it is subconsciously associated with religious connotations, even if most people no longer remember that it means "God" or "of God."

Zazikel lead the Second Blight.

Garahel defeated Andoral in the Fourth Blight.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I guess I should take it as a compliment that our names do command respect lol



Well, they certainly sound more villanous and powerful than "Bob" or "Bill" or "Frankie"

Just not good villian material, common English names. :whistle:

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Jeff, God of Biscuits? For some reason I'm thinking Eddie Izzard.

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My kid is going to be very beautiful then lol


I actually thought the exact same thing when I found out the Archdemon's name!

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Nigel, dragon of English Middle classness! Marvel as he throws crumpets at peasants and votes for the Conservative party! To be fair, French names would be worse: Francois, Dragon of Ponciness.

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Silent Bob

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Thomas9321 wrote...

Nigel, dragon of English Middle classness! Marvel as he throws crumpets at peasants and votes for the Conservative party! To be fair, French names would be worse: Francois, Dragon of Ponciness.



Not to mention German names being just as wrong.

Hans, Dragon of Accordians
Johann, Dragon of Engineering
Dieter, Dragon of Dancing

Italians really don't do much better:

Guiseppe, Dragon of Pastamaking
Giovanni, Dragon of Glassware
Mario, Dragon of Plumbing

You see, Semetic names were just meant to sound wicked cool.