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iNixiRir wrote...

Ah please, for some of you it's never good enough. If DA2 was more like DA:O, every single one of you would be whining the game is too identical, it's a waste of money and that BW lost it's touch by and only cares about money.
Now BW tries to do something different instead of making an identical game and it also sucks.

You people need to stop living in a fantasy world with butterflies and rainbows and where everything always stays the same...

that's absolutely not the point. the change of the fighting engine was needed to give the console players a fluid experience and i tend to like it. it feels new and entertaining. it's also not about the new graphical style but lack of time bioware ran into and the bad decision made to "focus on the cod audience". they stripped down the rpg elements and centered everything around combat. they cut the atmosphere and replaced it with reduced web interface. there are no nice icons for items, barely npcs to speak with besides the quest givers and everything feels so replaceable and fast paced. even most of the writing feels false and very weak with all these childish sex comments and the "wanna be sarcastic" comments to raise the dark times bar.

with da:o i liked to read the codex. i liked to look around (even if there was nothing to find). i liked to chat with my party. i was interested in the story... now you rush from quest to quest without taking your time because the whole game, the whole engine, the whole interface is build to adapt to this style.

i am really glad i could hold my breath and let my friend buy it. if that's the way bioware wanna sail under ea's flag then i am feeling very sorry for them.

[CrusaderBlade]

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.  I'd be happy to see if you guys stood up and took responsibility for your mistakes.  You aren't untouchable, dude!  I feel like we've got a patient, reasonable bunch of folks here on this forum and a significant number of them have taken issue with some of your design choices.  You may feel like you've already explained your stance on our complaints ad nauseum.  The reality is it feels to alot of us like you're looking the other way on the issue and are just pretending this game is the masterpiece that it most certainly isn't.  It's your Final Fantasy XIII, and that's a thing you'll have to cope with and address if you want to continue in your profession.

[didymos1120]

BillyDeeWilliams wrote...

Tactical does not mean difficult...

DA2 is less tactical because there is less considerations to be made like the positioning of your rogue for example. Backstabbing is a button press now instead of the player managing his position for maximun DPS.
 

Try reading the descriptions of some of the other Rogue abilities: they rely on not having an enemy's attention, or flanking attacks, etc.  I.e., you can now use that insta-flanking property of backstab not only to do some nice spike damage on its own, but also to put yourself in a position to boost DPS.  That help any?

[Haexpane]

CrusaderBlade wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.  I'd be happy to see if you guys stood up and took responsibility for your mistakes.  You aren't untouchable, dude!  I feel like we've got a patient, reasonable bunch of folks here on this forum and a significant number of them have taken issue with some of your design choices.  You may feel like you've already explained your stance on our complaints ad nauseum.  The reality is it feels to alot of us like you're looking the other way on the issue and are just pretending this game is the masterpiece that it most certainly isn't.  It's your Final Fantasy XIII, and that's a thing you'll have to cope with and address if you want to continue in your profession.

ROFL dude, TONE IT WAY THE HECK DOWN!  "You aren't untouchable, dude!" and "...tthat's a thing you'll have to cope with and address if you want to continue in your profession"

Make you sound off the charts Crazy/Stalkerish/Dangerous.

Seriously dude, delete your post, it's WAY overboard.

[Athro]

Let me get this straight.

David Gaider dismisses the 4chan situation and confirms that they are paying attention to ALL criticisms - and he gets abused for it.

Maker's breath. The guy has just said that they are listening to you.The thing is, the "faults" that you guys are so gleefully crying about aren't universally hated.

To be blunt, I note that most of the people still complaining are also the people who haven't played the game. Which actually makes your complaints have less weight compared to criticisms from someone who has played the game. Which I think Bioware is going to be looking at.

A wise company is going to gather all the data before they commit to future changes. Note that the changes to DA2 were brought about by looking at the data and criticisms from the fans. So changes were made - based off what the fans wanted.

It is likely DA3 will change things again based on the feedback from those who have legitimate criticisms as opposed to those who are railing away about things they don't actually have a lot of knowledge about.

David, I have a lot of respect for you, Mike and the rest of the team. I'm looking forward to playing the game. The only crticism I have at the moment is that I had to wait until March 11th for the NZ release.

C

[Huntress]

tardis_type_40 wrote...

Which reviews and which fans ought they be listening to? The positive reviews and fans, the negative reviews and fans, or the lukewarm reviews and fans?

Personally, I don't think they should listen to any of us. They should do what they want, create the artistic image they have in their mind's eye, release it to the world, and see who's onboard for the ride. That's always the best policy when it comes to creativity, because if you get too many thumbs in the pie, it turns into anarchy.

I think they should listen/read  their own reviews when they were making dragon age origens.

Then they should read why so many players are not sure if buying this game is a good choice to/for them, and probably read about what make this players unsure, not happy, skeptical ect.

They should keep in mind that because they have such a good amount of players that love to have less of everything, there will be  others that want the same or MORE.

[didymos1120]

CrusaderBlade wrote...

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.

No, Gaider was on topic, dude.  Read the thread title: it's about reviews, and the listening to same.  So was his post.  Now, a somewhat more legitimate gripe would be to ask "Why'd ya post in this thread and not one of the bug/glitch ones?"  On the other hand, Gaider's a writer, not a coder/designer, so is he truly the one you want to have posting on those issues? Obviously, he knows a fair amount about that side of things, because anyone working mostly on games for a living has to have some understanding of those other domains of expertise,  but wouldn't you prefer someone who actually works on that stuff day-in/day-out to post about it?

Not in this thread though.  This one's about reviews, remember?

Modifié par didymos1120, 09 mars 2011 - 11:21 .

[Shepard of Death]

Too many opinions that don't praise us.

End of line.

[CrusaderBlade]

Haexpane wrote...

CrusaderBlade wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.  I'd be happy to see if you guys stood up and took responsibility for your mistakes.  You aren't untouchable, dude!  I feel like we've got a patient, reasonable bunch of folks here on this forum and a significant number of them have taken issue with some of your design choices.  You may feel like you've already explained your stance on our complaints ad nauseum.  The reality is it feels to alot of us like you're looking the other way on the issue and are just pretending this game is the masterpiece that it most certainly isn't.  It's your Final Fantasy XIII, and that's a thing you'll have to cope with and address if you want to continue in your profession.

ROFL dude, TONE IT WAY THE HECK DOWN!  "You aren't untouchable, dude!" and "...tthat's a thing you'll have to cope with and address if you want to continue in your profession"

Make you sound off the charts Crazy/Stalkerish/Dangerous.

Seriously dude, delete your post, it's WAY overboard.

What the heck are you babbling about?  In order to continue to grow the company and the Dragon Age brand, the people responsible will have to recognize their mistakes.  That seems pretty clear cut to me.  But, to you, it seems "stalkerish and over the top."  Listen, I just don't want to let the guy off easy.  I respect Gaider and the work he's done in the past.  That's why I feel my complaints are valid.  If I didn't respect the man, I wouldn't give a fig if his company went down the tubes.  But I like these guys and I like the stuff they do.  I don't want to see them close their eyes and cover their ears in response to fan outcry.  That would be the biggest slap in the face ever.  His response seemed very cagey to me and I don't feel like it addressed any of the legitimate concerns brought up in this topic.

I want to make something very clear.  The only people who think 4chan is involved in this are those of you here who are claiming they are.  It has been said before in this thread, but to reiterate: If 4chan were responsible, the reviews would be much worse than they are and much more numerous.  Heck, metacritic might even go down.  If that happens, feel free to blame them.

[Manic Sheep]

CrusaderBlade wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to. In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority. I'd be happy to see if you guys stood up and took responsibility for your mistakes. You aren't untouchable, dude! I feel like we've got a patient, reasonable bunch of folks here on this forum and a significant number of them have taken issue with some of your design choices. You may feel like you've already explained your stance on our complaints ad nauseum. The reality is it feels to alot of us like you're looking the other way on the issue and are just pretending this game is the masterpiece that it most certainly isn't. It's your Final Fantasy XIII, and that's a thing you'll have to cope with and address if you want to continue in your profession.

He also just said he is listening to feedback, he decided to respond respond to that particular post in this thread on the 4 chan issue. I have seen the devs thank people for their reviews when that review was mostly negative but still well thought out and constructive. I have also on numerous occasions seen the devs tell the fans defending them to quite down and stop trolling those with criticisms. Despite what allot of people seem to want to believe the devs are not ignoring criticism. You cannot expect them to respond to every ones post even if many of them are valid, especially when allot of them are just ranting not constructive  criticism.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 09 mars 2011 - 11:26 .

[Mooh Bear]

Melness wrote...

Mooh Bear wrote...

Melness wrote...

But, apparently, Bob was wrong about the french review talking about the Nightmare. It only went as far as Hard (the new Normal, I think), right?

They do mention the nightmare mode: they say it's unplayable because of the targeting glitch.

Again the disclaimer: I do not endorse the review, I'm just a translator.

Really? There's a targetting glitch? Didn't notice it when I played on my friend's copy.

Anyways, that's why I say that my opinion on DA2 will vary greatly depending on how pro-active the future patches will be (I'm looking at you import feature).

But no worries, I'm not attacking your post, in fact I'm very much thankful for you taking your time to guide me through that whole french madness (there's the one language that continues to elude me). Just tried to discuss it with whoever reads my post.

Now worries, it's not for you in particular. I just don't want to become troll bait 

[Clammo]

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

To be fair David, it was Chris Priestly who suggested we look at Metacritic for a more honest viewpoint, so you can hardly blame people for checking it out when it's a Bioware dev who suggests it. Just because the reaction to the game isn't as positive as had been hoped for does not mean it's some grand conspiracy.

One could equally say that the very many Bioware fanboys are rushing over there to give unrealistic favourable reviews - it cuts both ways.

I'm sure there are people of both extremes trying to fudge the system, but these things tend to balance themselves out. The problem of the low score, to my eyes, seems to be that many people just plain don't like it, and the vast majority aren't conspiring in some hidden agenda.

[CrusaderBlade]

didymos1120 wrote...

CrusaderBlade wrote...

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.

No, Gaider was on topic, dude.  Read the thread title: it's about reviews, and the listening to same.  So was his post.  Now, a somewhat more legitimate gripe would be to ask "Why'd ya post in this thread and not one of the bug/glitch ones?"  On the other hand, Gaider's a writer, not a coder/designer, so is he truly the one you want to have posting on those issues? Obviously, he knows a fair amount about that side of things, because anyone working mostly on games for a living has to have some understanding of those other domains of expertise,  but wouldn't you prefer someone who actually works on that stuff day-in/day-out to post about it?

Not in this thread though.  This one's about reviews, remember?

You'd be totally right if 4chan had anything to do with anything here (they don't) and if Mr. Gaider's response hadn't been so cagey.  It's the same tone they gave us when they assured us that the game would be great.  I know he's a writer and you know what else reviewers have been criticizing?  The writing!  So, he's in a perfectly good position to own up to that.  I don't want them to bow before us and beg our forgiveness.  I just want to know what happened in the process that sent the game down the road it went.

I feel like the reviews will probably come to a rest at around 7/10.  And when that time comes, I want to look to these guys who have been so good at talking to us in the past and ask why did you lose those 3 points?  And I hope I'd get something resembling an answer.

[BiggusDikkus]

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

I very much highly doubt that, as I have gone through the reviews and most of them are pretty good reviews. Most of them point things out in the game that they thought were bad, and many of them agree on some of the same points (myself included). The fact that you are turning this away as a "4chan raid" and not taking it seriously just shows how little you people care about the problems created in your latest game.

I was really hoping you guys would look at the reviews you've been getting and say "Okay, looks like we messed up. Let's do better next time". But alas, such is not the case.

[Haexpane]

CrusaderBlade wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

CrusaderBlade wrote...

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.

No, Gaider was on topic, dude.  Read the thread title: it's about reviews, and the listening to same.  So was his post.  Now, a somewhat more legitimate gripe would be to ask "Why'd ya post in this thread and not one of the bug/glitch ones?"  On the other hand, Gaider's a writer, not a coder/designer, so is he truly the one you want to have posting on those issues? Obviously, he knows a fair amount about that side of things, because anyone working mostly on games for a living has to have some understanding of those other domains of expertise,  but wouldn't you prefer someone who actually works on that stuff day-in/day-out to post about it?

Not in this thread though.  This one's about reviews, remember?

You'd be totally right if 4chan had anything to do with anything here (they don't) and if Mr. Gaider's response hadn't been so cagey.  It's the same tone they gave us when they assured us that the game would be great.  I know he's a writer and you know what else reviewers have been criticizing?  The writing!  So, he's in a perfectly good position to own up to that.  I don't want them to bow before us and beg our forgiveness.  I just want to know what happened in the process that sent the game down the road it went.

I feel like the reviews will probably come to a rest at around 7/10.  And when that time comes, I want to look to these guys who have been so good at talking to us in the past and ask why did you lose those 3 points?  And I hope I'd get something resembling an answer.

Thank you for toning down your rhetoric.

Bioware has already given a TON of interviews explaining "the process" of making DA2.  Read them.

[Gatt9]

CrusaderBlade wrote...
I want to make something very clear.  The only people who think 4chan is involved in this are those of you here who are claiming they are.  It has been said before in this thread, but to reiterate: If 4chan were responsible, the reviews would be much worse than they are and much more numerous.  Heck, metacritic might even go down.  If that happens, feel free to blame them.

This is absolutely correct.  People actually need to go look at /v/ rather than repeating someone's justification that it "Must be that evil 4chan!".

Truth is,  the only "Raiding" that's been done so far is some Bioware fan over on /v/ stirring the pot,  4chan doesn't care.  If they did,  it'd be alot more than a hundred reviews.

Video games are not a topic that start 4chan raiding,  4chan's really not that interested. 

[Athro]

CrusaderBlade wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

CrusaderBlade wrote...

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.

No, Gaider was on topic, dude.  Read the thread title: it's about reviews, and the listening to same.  So was his post.  Now, a somewhat more legitimate gripe would be to ask "Why'd ya post in this thread and not one of the bug/glitch ones?"  On the other hand, Gaider's a writer, not a coder/designer, so is he truly the one you want to have posting on those issues? Obviously, he knows a fair amount about that side of things, because anyone working mostly on games for a living has to have some understanding of those other domains of expertise,  but wouldn't you prefer someone who actually works on that stuff day-in/day-out to post about it?

Not in this thread though.  This one's about reviews, remember?

You'd be totally right if 4chan had anything to do with anything here (they don't) and if Mr. Gaider's response hadn't been so cagey. 

To be blunt, I can cut them some slack. There is definitely a concerted effort to tar Bioware's reputation. On another forum I frequent there is a guy who is actively badmouthing the game  despite admitting to having never played it, and he is spouting all manner of falsehoods about it and even admitted to being one of the people who voted "0" on metacritic to "punish" Bioware. So I can understand David getting a bit cranky now because it does feel like Bioware is unreasonably under attack. These aren't people just saying "hey, here are some things we didn't like" - these are people actively aiming to crush this game into the dust.

 It's the same tone they gave us when they assured us that the game would be great.

And if you look on this forum a large number of people are saying it is great. Some of them are even people who were part of the DA2 suxx0rs crowd.

 I know he's a writer and you know what else reviewers have been criticizing?  The writing!  So, he's in a perfectly good position to own up to that.  I don't want them to bow before us and beg our forgiveness.  I just want to know what happened in the process that sent the game down the road it went.

That's actually not an accurate portrayal of the criticisms. What is being said is that the story isn't as epic and that there isn't always a strong link between quests. But that is not the same as "the writing is bad." In fact, most reviews have praised the writing and voice acting and have stated that despite the rough start it all comes together by the end of the game.

So at least get the facts straight.

I feel like the reviews will probably come to a rest at around 7/10.  And when that time comes, I want to look to these guys who have been so good at talking to us in the past and ask why did you lose those 3 points?  And I hope I'd get something resembling an answer.

To what question? I think you'll find that once all the dross is cleared away, the game is going to be sitting at a solid 8. As to what happened? Some people liked the changes, some people didn't.

Ultimately, Bioware doesn't have to answer anything. The true measure will be the sales and the data showing how often people replayed the game and what choices they went with when playing. You're treating this as if they had to make a 10/10 game - they tried, but people have differing tastes.

Bioware have been up front about what to expect from DA2 - and that is what they have delivered. This antagonistic attitude is not the way to convince them to reconsider the direction they are going.

C.

[Lee T]

xnoxiousx wrote...

And adds what they took out of da2 in da3.

Actually I wish they don't.

Most of the things people looks badly upon comes, according to the interviews, from following the reviews, player's opinions, and gameplay statistics.

If I end up not liking the game I'd rather wish they started make the next games the way games were made back in the days where devellopers made game by the seat of their pants rather than according to what others tell them they should do.

[Shepard of Death]

Haexpane wrote...

CrusaderBlade wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

CrusaderBlade wrote...

I love that in this whole thread, this is the post you chose to respond to.  In a sea of discussion about game crippling glitches, David Gaider decides 4chan is the priority.

No, Gaider was on topic, dude.  Read the thread title: it's about reviews, and the listening to same.  So was his post.  Now, a somewhat more legitimate gripe would be to ask "Why'd ya post in this thread and not one of the bug/glitch ones?"  On the other hand, Gaider's a writer, not a coder/designer, so is he truly the one you want to have posting on those issues? Obviously, he knows a fair amount about that side of things, because anyone working mostly on games for a living has to have some understanding of those other domains of expertise,  but wouldn't you prefer someone who actually works on that stuff day-in/day-out to post about it?

Not in this thread though.  This one's about reviews, remember?

You'd be totally right if 4chan had anything to do with anything here (they don't) and if Mr. Gaider's response hadn't been so cagey.  It's the same tone they gave us when they assured us that the game would be great.  I know he's a writer and you know what else reviewers have been criticizing?  The writing!  So, he's in a perfectly good position to own up to that.  I don't want them to bow before us and beg our forgiveness.  I just want to know what happened in the process that sent the game down the road it went.

I feel like the reviews will probably come to a rest at around 7/10.  And when that time comes, I want to look to these guys who have been so good at talking to us in the past and ask why did you lose those 3 points?  And I hope I'd get something resembling an answer.

Thank you for toning down your rhetoric.

Bioware has already given a TON of interviews explaining "the process" of making DA2.  Read them.

What does that have to do with anything? The game is out, we can play it and construct our own opinions.

[neverhoodyn]

I created an account just to say this.

It's ridiculous to accuse 4chan of bad user reviews. I've been browsing 4chan, the video game section(/v/) specificly for the last couples of weeks, atleast 8 hours a day. Sure, /v/ hates the game but no where did i ever see a thread about going to metacritic to give the game bad reviews.
What exactly do you base this on? Show me a thread where it says that people should go to metacritic and down rate the game.

Modifié par neverhoodyn, 09 mars 2011 - 11:51 .

[tez19]

sorry for being dumb but what is 4chan and why are they trying to make DA2 look bad if that is what they are doing?

[The Amazing Thornado]

David Gaider wrote...

Xrissie wrote...
That's a 4chan raid. Those are not serious reviews.

We're well aware of what the 4chan folks are up to and they're desperation to sound more important/numerous than they are. I mean, is there any wonder why multiple people have suddenly been running here going "OMG look at the Metacritic user reviews!" when nobody has ever done that before? Seriously.

Which is too bad, as it certainly makes those with legitimate, constructive criticisms harder to pick out amidst the dross. Be that as it may, we will listen to feedback and come to our own conclusions-- it will be all the feedback, however, and not just that provided by those determined to be the loudest and/or most obnoxious.

I know it's cool to blame 4chan for everything, but this is not what is happening. We will admit to making a big deal about the metacritic scores as we tend to get worked up about paid reviews professional critics, but there is no raid here and there never will be. Don't try to throw eggs at 4chan.

Even if it were a raid, each one is still a serious review indicative of the disappointment the community shares over the game. Try not to dismiss eveyrthing that you don't like.

[CrusaderBlade]

tez19 wrote...

sorry for being dumb but what is 4chan and why are they trying to make DA2 look bad if that is what they are doing?

Don't worry about 4chan, tez.  Its an imageboard generally regarded as "surly" at their best.  But, I've been to /v/.  They don't care.  They aren't mad.  They think its funny, actually, considering most of them just pirated the game in the first place.  The only people who are mad are the people who paid for it.  Us.

[Zepplin_Rules]

What in the world are you thinking? Don't ****** off 4chan. That never ends well. I mean come on.

[BiggusDikkus]

neverhoodyn wrote...

I created an account just to say this.

It's rediculous to accuse 4chan of bad user reviews. I've been browsing 4chan, the video game section(/v/) specificly for the last couples of weeks, atleast 8 hours a day. Sure, /v/ hates the game but no where did i ever see a thread about going to metacritic to give the game bad reviews.
What exactly do you base this on? Show me a thread where it says that people should go to metacritic and down rate the game.

Indeed, at this point it's just Bioware using an excuse to cover up their fail of a game. Not to mention that 4chan users wouldn't post paragraphs upon paragraphs of complaints (which you have had to play the game, mind you) just to ****** off Bioware.

I took a look at this "4chan" and I did not see any discussion of a metacritic raid, I even went to the Video Games board, and while they did not discuss a lot of video games there was no discussion of a metacritic "raid".
Bioware needs to stop blaming others for their mistakes, and look at the reviews in a more serious manner.