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[VanDraegon]

Anathemic wrote...

Elder Scrolls boards weren't as hectic when sequels were released. Battle.Net 1.0 boards weren't as hectic when WoW was released. Guild wars boards weren't as hectic when GW expansions were released.

WoW is a mmo, not the same. As for Elder Scrolls, yes they were.

[Phial]

NismoTyler wrote...

Or PC gamers love PC gaming because of the limitless graphics, UI/HUD and control capabilites able to outperform all modern consoles 3 or 4 fold. PC gamers are getting frustrated not from self esteem but from their fun being taken away from them in favor of their favorite developers' hunger for snowballing profits. Innovative and cutting edge game designs for the very capable and ever-evolving PC is being thrown out the window in favor of porting in stuff that was meant for lower end machines ala consoles and the people behind said machines' controllers. It's a repetetive rant, but an honest one.

I know there are advantages to PC gaming. My favorite PC game with beautiful graphics that took full advantage
of UI/HUD and control capabilites was Freespace 2. It was widely acclaimed as the pinnacle of the genre. One of the best games ever made. It sold like 25,000 copies. The entire genre died on the spot. Consoles did not kill it, PC gamers killed it.

Do I get all "persecution complex" about it? Nah. Chill out and play what you like. You don't vote with your mouth you vote with your wallet. So do that and leave the endless complaining behind. That's my opinion.

Modifié par Phial, 10 mars 2011 - 07:13 .

[skyrend]

It's not the worst game I've played. It is however, the biggest disappointment of a sequel of a game I enjoyed, even more so than FFXIII. At least FFXIII combat became fun towards the latter end of the game.

I'm already kicking myself for pre-ordering this and not waiting for the Ultimate Edition to go on sale or skipping it entirely. I wish some of the reviews (Gamespot was spot-on) came out earlier.

Modifié par skyrend, 10 mars 2011 - 07:13 .

[rebeltube]

It is way too harsh... I mean this is Bioware. Loved their games since I was a kid... let's just hope for the best that the next DA will not be rushed as this one... although I'm enjoying DA2 I still think the first one is better but... Great Work Bioware... Bravo!

[rebeltube]

.... my only advice to Bioware is... release ME3 in 2012... I know we all want it to be released this year

but WE WANT A COMPLETE GAME... make it special for us fans this is the 3rd one by the way 

and treat us PC gamers better ok?

Modifié par rebeltube, 10 mars 2011 - 07:22 .

[IAmTheVoid]

Civilization 5 got exactly the same treatment from its fans, including me to an extent. It's still got a vocal hate-following on the forums I go to (CivFanatics) but those who do like the game and/or mod it simply get along with their own business, and for the most part the people who dislike the game simply go back to the Civ 4 boards (or, in this case, the DA:O boards). The people who dislike the game will be bitter for a while, but it'll pass. I'm not saying they'll come to love the game- they'll still be vocal about it should anyone press them.

Like somebody said above, it's anonymity and high expectations combined into RAAAGE. Although I feel to some extent it must be cathartic. It is disappointing to see people dig into a game that I'm still anticipating (GOD DAMN YOU, UNITED KINGDOM!), but I've learnt from the past that it's just the internet. Every new game now, especially sequels, gets the most scrutiny ever. Gamers expectations seem to have exploded in recent years.

[Darkeus]

Because people love to cry and whine when change happens. It is a pretty good game, stands on its own merits, actually is not a story about epic, world saving battle 2999 against generic big bad 77.

But people hate and whine and act like they are entitled to something. These are the same people that claim that The Witcher and The Witcher 2 are "classic" Rpg games and not more of an Action RPG than Dragon Age 2 will ever be.

But you know, logic eludes trolls and haters. The game can be criticized, yes but some of the moaning is simply trite and illogical. I think the best ones are the guys who "beat" the game in 16 hours or something. Come on, you know you tried to beat the game as fast as possible to make a point....

Back to enjoying the game. Now I remember why I have been staying off these boards....

[Phial]

Darkeus wrote...
These are the same people that claim that The Witcher and The Witcher 2 are "classic" Rpg games and not more of an Action RPG than Dragon Age 2 will ever be.

When I see complaints about awful shallow hack-n-slash combat and the game being too easy the irony is amusing. Both games series have their flaws but it's obvious most of these complaints are not coming from an honest place.

After all, you don't see a horde of people savaging that series at every opportunity over every tiny issue do you?

Modifié par Phial, 10 mars 2011 - 08:03 .

[Eterna]

Deadmac wrote...

jds1bio wrote...
For a seemingly successful well-reviewed multi-platform release, why are the Dragon Age II forum discussions
particularly brutal right now?

What is interesting is that many of the online game magazine (and review) sites are giving the game high marks, but they do so while agreeing with those who do not like the game. Similar to the scores on the front page of "Dragon Age II's" site. If you actually read the reviews behind those scores, they are in contradiction to the ranking in which they give the game. Its a well ranked game on the surface, but the comments within the reveiws are negative. Some are sugar coating how they truly feel. Its kind of funny.

Only a 'small' handful of the reveiws are matching their ranking. Also, hordes of gamers are giving this game a 7.2 out of ten on most sites. Lol...

"Dragon Age II" is being called a 'good' game not a 'must have or must play' game.

Calling this a good game is still a stretch.

In your Opinion.

[FedericoV]

Buffy-Summers wrote...

Its been brutal because Bioware fans from as far back as KOTOR is getting stepped on with Bioware's need for greed.

You step back "as far as Kotor"? Oh you're here from the beginning then...

LOL

And then you put complexity and Kotor in the same post?

ROTFL

If anything, Kotor was simpler and less complex than DA2.

[Quionic]

The truth hurts.

[Eterna]

Anathemic wrote...

VanDraegon wrote...

Anathemic wrote...
Meant 'As', as in you expect this level of complaints on other gaming boards?

I absolutely do. I have seen it many times before. It is the nature of some of our brethren gamers.

. Battle.Net 1.0 boards weren't as hectic when WoW was released. 

Really? because I remember the forums being a crap storm.

[Mike2640]

I think it's disappointment. Going into a game knowing it's bad can make it easier to deal with. Being surprised by a bad game (Not that I'm saying DA2 is "bad") hurts worse.

Dragon Age 2 isn't a bad game, but it is clearly a disappointment to many people. Once the initial shock passes, the vitriol will fade. It may not make people think better of the game, but they'll be more level-headed about it.

[FedericoV]

randallman wrote...

This aint BG, BG2, NWN, NWN2, or KotOR - this is for sure.

Kotor was action oriented and less tactical than DA2. Fact. Not to talk about JE.

NWN was not even a party based game.

[Quionic]

FedericoV wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

Its been brutal because Bioware fans from as far back as KOTOR is getting stepped on with Bioware's need for greed.

You step back "as far as Kotor"? Oh you're here from the beginning then...

LOL

And then you put complexity and Kotor in the same post?

ROTFL

If anything, Kotor was simpler and less complex than DA2.

And yet, still better. Imagine that.

[VanDraegon]

Eterna5 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

VanDraegon wrote...

Anathemic wrote...
Meant 'As', as in you expect this level of complaints on other gaming boards?

I absolutely do. I have seen it many times before. It is the nature of some of our brethren gamers.

. Battle.Net 1.0 boards weren't as hectic when WoW was released. 

Really? because I remember the forums being a crap storm.

Anathemic has his/her glasses of selective seeing on.

[FedericoV]

Quionic wrote...

And yet, still better. Imagine that.

And the point is? I loved Kotor and just played DA2 demo so I can't judge. Maybe it's better, maybe it's not.

But what's the point if Kotor was the first DUMBED DOWN FOR CONSOLLE BIOWARE GAME in their history? It was a f*ck*n' Star Wars game! SW: the Mc Donald of genre literature. The Disney of Space Opera. And you talk of it like we were talking of The Road by Cormac Mc Carthy compared to Harry Potter? Like it wasn't a casual game designed for casual gamers of the consolle market?

You know, that show that most of you critics do not even know what you want. That's the reason why Bioware will never and I say never listen to most of what you're saying. You are not using your head in a constructive and rational manner. You are just acting like child and pretend to be listened.

Modifié par FedericoV, 10 mars 2011 - 08:27 .

[handheld]

Handheld himself believes it is fans over hyping themselves and then not being satisfied that the gane will not make then a sandwich and be perfect at the same time.

[Quionic]

FedericoV wrote...

Quionic wrote...

And yet, still better. Imagine that.

And the point is? I loved Kotor and just played DA2 demo so I can't judge. Maybe it's better, maybe it's not.

But what's the point if Kotor was the first DUMBED DOWN FOR CONSOLLE BIOWARE GAME in their history? It was a f*ck*n' Star Wars game! SW: the Mc Donald of genre literature. The Disney of Space Opera. And you talk of it like we were talking of The Road by Cormac Mc Carthy compared to Harry Potter? Like it wasn't a casual game designed for casual gamers of the consolle market?

You know, that show that most of you critics do not even know what you want. That's the reason why Bioware will never and I say never listen to most of what you're saying. You are not using your head in a constructive and rational manner. You are just acting like child and pretend to be listened.

Hey listen buddy, I may not know a lot about a bunch of ****, but I know what I like. I don't actually care what other people have to say on things I enjoy. So don't you dare tell me "do not even know what you want".

Also, Harry Potter is awesome.

*nerd rage for tonight is subsiding

Modifié par Quionic, 10 mars 2011 - 08:43 .

[FedericoV]

Quionic wrote...
Hey listen buddy, I may not know a lot about a bunch of ****, but I know what I like. I don't actually care what other people have to say on things I enjoy. So don't you dare tell me "do not even know what you wan".

But that's the feeling I get from someone who basically calls DA2 a game for the masses and then quote Kotor as a reference of good game design of the past, like it was some obscure turn based/isometrical PC indie game based on an unkown setting. Get the little contraddiction? You are entitled to your tastes and I have nothing against them (love HP too) but you must formulate logical arguments and rational criticism if you want to be taken seriously. 

Having said that, I see that I was a little bit taken over in my reply to you, so I apologize if I sounded offensive.

Modifié par FedericoV, 10 mars 2011 - 08:53 .

[HTTP 404]

hating is a video gamer past time. Today is Hatesgiving and bioware is getting a serving of slaps.

[XRed_RumX]

WHY have users been brutal on the pos game?

Modifié par XRed_RumX, 10 mars 2011 - 08:57 .

[HTTP 404]

XRed_RumX wrote...

WHY have users been brutal on the pos game?

Now im convinced. thanks

[pezit]

There are certainly more PC-fans on the forums, the PC version was axed this time around so you'll see a lot more negativity here. Also the negative ones are always the more vocal, the ones enjoying the game are busy playing the game. Another reason is that bioware is a well respected company that has many "fanboys" and those will show their disappointment, if this was some random company most wouldn't bother to complain cause their expectations wouldn't be as high.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Ha!, with some of the angry fans on here who need enemies maybe they changed everything around too get some of there spiteful exfans too stop buying there games. If I was a mod I would be annoyed having too throw down the ban hammer on forums with angry and rude posts. Having too deal with fans that can't deal with any little change very well is frustrating.