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[ZeRo KonTroL]

This game runs great on my desktop but i was hoping i would be able to run it on my laptop.


OS: Windows 7
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo  running at 2.20 Ghz
RAM: 4GB
Video:It is definately an onboard one so I prob cant run it on this laptop but its an intel of some sort with 64 mb
20 GB HD space

Modifié par ZeRo KonTroL, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:16 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Onboard flat-out doesn't count. Only ATI comes anywhere close with an HD 4200, but even that one is just too slow.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:20 .

[aaniadyen]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

It's a recycled 8n00 and it's Mobile (I have little respect for anything that's already had two previous names - it could've been the 8500M and then the 9400M, or if you are lucky, it was an 8600M originally). But what you are trying to read into it is any extra value from wasting a lot of VRAM attached to it. It has a comparatively narrow (128 bit) memory bandwidth, so 256 MBs is all it's going to have available for gaming.

GPU Review doesn't have any listing for it (making identifying its parentage harder), but I really don't enjoy trying to predict how anything as unsuited for games as laptops are might be able to do, if you insist on using such unsupported hardware.  

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/519461

Gorath
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Jeez, I didn't know any of that. >< Now I feel like a jackass.

[aaniadyen]

szathmab wrote...

HI guys my wife is dead set on buying a laptop....now i will go along with her if it can run DA:O...this is what she wants.
http://www.bestbuy.c...1&skuId=9548661

I really dont know what to look for in laptops gaming wise and I really cant tell her that Im gonna play DA:O on it..until I install it and just say i dont know how it got there...but any suggestions would help

Graphics card is integrated...so you won't be able to, I don't think.

[ZeRo KonTroL]

Ok i'll just keep playing on my desktop

[Gorath Alpha]

szathmab wrote...

HI guys my wife is dead set on buying a laptop....now i will go along with her if it can run DA:O...this is what she wants.
http://www.bestbuy.c...1&skuId=9548661

Ignore anything with any video not containingf the performance indicator "n600" (or recent Geforces with a "50" in their names).

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:22 .

[Gorath Alpha]

aaniadyen wrote...


social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/509580

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/519461


Jeez, I didn't know any of that. >< Now I feel like a jackass.

You're not supposed to know, but the GT 130 (AFAIK, all of the "100" cards, in fact) is only sold through OEMs.  You can't buy it anywhere.  It may be reasonably good (one of them was a Geforce 9600 of some sort, which was created by slightly de-rating an 8800 GT to compete with the HD 4670. 

In fact, now that I runminate on it some, if it's the one based on the 9600, it has a more generous memory bandwidth that it inherited from the 8800 grandparent, 256 bits, so it can use 512 MBs of that GB it has, for games, so maybe you can check with a site like Notebook Check to look up your card and see what its parentage is. 

But I don't try hard at all at keeping up with either laptops, their video cards, or OEM-only products; I already have enough on my plate as it is. 

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[Galhorian]

Oh oke thank you very much for the info, but let's say if my notebook is in any way good enough to play the game on max. medium settings, would the graphics still be better than those on an xbox 360 for instance? Because i'm just having a difficult time deciding whether i should purchase the game for 360 or pc, if the graphics on medium settings on a notebook don't even reach those of a console like ps3 or xbox 360, i would at least be clear to me which version to buy, i'm not saying graphics are everything, gameplay comes first, but with the options i have like everyone else i would just like to get the maximum out of the game

[Gorath Alpha]

Never having wanted any kind of console system, and not having closely observed asny such that a grandchild might have been playing on, I have no direct experience.  An article I prepared for the Tech Forum about the multiple generation ladders for video contains NotTheKing's ranking list that does have an Xbox's GPU shown for where it should fit in, so look at that:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/575571

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[Galhorian]

Oke, i checked it and i can confirm that xbox 360 graphics for da:o coincide with a medium graphics setting on the pc, so this will be my last question (and thanks for the help so far), with my notebook, will the game run at least smooth on medium graphic settings? Because if that's the case than the pc version is a much better choice which is clearly stated in every review of the game i have read so far.

Intel Core 2 Duo processor T6400 (2.0 GHz, 800 MHz FSB)

Nvidia Geforce GT 130M 1Gb

4 Gb DDR3 Memory

(I know you don't like making estimations for notebooks, but if it is anyway possible, could you tell me? Thanks anyways.)

[qimmiq]

About upgrading the PC. Here's what I did, for anyone that find it useful. I've bought my PC case (a-open 601 IIRC) in 2004 and is still quite good enough. I've bought it for an AMD K7 2200+ with a Radeon 9800 pro.

Then I upgraded that to core 2 duo 6550 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.8GHz + nvidia 8600GT with new mainboard + new 2GB memory + new power 450W supply (with a processor connector).

I got about 30fps at 1280x1024 with medium texture settings and no anti alias.It's playable but not so smooth when there's a lot of activity, dropping to 15 fps. At 1920x1200 it dropped to 5-12fps.

Because I own a 24" 1920x1200 screen I wanted to run the game at that resolution so another upgrade was in order. Radeon HD 4890 1GB. I've tried it using the 450W power supply. I smelled burned dust like 2KW electric heaters coming out of the powersupply and knew it was running into the limit of its ability and reset the PC within 20 mins. So I upgraded it to a 650W power supply and is running on max. settings 40-60fps, amazingly smooth. I've added a low noise case fan, that's all.

For a budget system I'd go no lower than a Nvidia 8600GT or equivalent. Rather a 9600gt or equivalent with a dual core proc. at least 2.4 GHz. And 2GB for XP seems enough, add 1GB for vista and Windows 7.

For those who use laptops and run into trouble with AMD/ATI video cards not being recognized try mobilitymodder drivers, which can convert normal drivers for desktops for laptops.

http://www.hardwareh...com/modtool.php

Hope this helps..

[Galhorian]

Gorath, I went looking for the desktop equivalent of my video card on notebook check, this is what i found:



The performance of the GT 130M should be somewhere near the 9650M GS. Therfore high end games like GTA 4 and Crysis wont run in high settings, but less demanding games (like Lef 4 Dead) should run fluently in high settings.

Compared to desktop graphics cards, the GT 130M is similar to the GeForce 9500GT or GT 120 (which also descend from the G96 core). The desktop CPU GeForce 130 has a wider memory bus and more pipelines



Together with 4 Gb of Ram and an Intel Core 2 Duo processor T6400 (2.0 Ghz, 800Mhz FSB) do you think it can run smooth on medium graphic settings?

(ps: to previous post, this is a notebook, not a desktop, i can't upgrade anything about it, but if the video card does reach sufficient standards, and the processor remains as it is, are medium settings a possibility, or will the processor remain a bottleneck?)

[DanishC]

 Hi Guys

I want to run Dragon Age at 1900x1200 on my 50" screen.  At the moment I have an AMD X2 5200+ Black edition, 8800GT, 4GIGS DDR

I'm looking at upgrading the cpu and video card but would like to know if I could get away with JUST updating the cpu or video card?

In that case the CPU upgrade i'd get would be an AMD x4 Phenom 920 (my mb and ram already support this).

If it's the Video card I upgade it will be an ATI 5770.

Given me objectives, which upgrade will I get the most improvement from?

[Gorath Alpha]

You need a 256 bit memory system to deal with more than 256 MBs of VRAM, and 1900 by 1200 is going to need 512 all of the time. A 5770 only has a 128 bit memory system, and can only handle 512 MBs in a limited fashion, so it's not what you want:

http://www.gpureview...1=615&card2=608

Pick a different video card to suit the question you want to ask about which would be the biggest improvement, since the video card you have now does have the larger memory system already, making the 5770 a downgrade from it at high resolutions. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 22 mars 2010 - 04:29 .

[DanishC]

Alpha,



Any suggestions for an alternate video card in the 150-200 price range? Also what about the cpu, whats holding me back the most?

[Gorath Alpha]

DanishC wrote...

Any suggestions for an alternate video card in the 150-200 price range? Also what about the cpu, whats holding me back the most?

Actually, I added the Alpha to try saying I was first with using the handle "Gorath" on the 'Net, when others grabbed up the plain version of the handle.  It goes back to the Raymond Feist Riftwar game, "Betrayal at Krondor" that predated most the graphical aspect / revolution of the Internet, as the name of a Dark Elf Chieftain travelling the land during a perilous uprising of some Dark Elf tribes.  It was a major triumph as a game, and the character was a favorite of mine. 

At the end of the game, in order to win against the evil side, he sacrificed himself.  I would probably never do that now, nor even when the game was new, but I could remember how I felt as a young parent, and THEN I would have given my own life if it meant saving either of my children's lives, and that was was the Gorath of the game was doing for his family and his tribe. 

In Dragon Age, you should have been in pretty good shape with the hardware that you already have, although video is always the part of the equation that is responsible for the largest part of the perceived performance of the system, and the 8800 is getting somewhat elderly by now.  I already put this card up against the 5770 in the GPU Review side by side comparison, it's $210, though:

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

Here's an HD 4870 for less than $160:

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 22 mars 2010 - 07:01 .

[kuckikirukia]

I was wondering if my PC could run the game in 'medium ~ medium-high' setting?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 5200+ 2.6 Ghz
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
2 gig G.Skill RAM
HANNS G 19" monitor (1440x900)

I'm pretty sure the GPU is okay... just worrying about the CPU =/

Thanks~

[Loerwyn]

You should be fine, Kuck. It's not the best CPU, as you're aware, but it should be capable enough.

[ElectricWizard]

What I want to know is: the specs of my PC run Dragon Age: Origins PERFECTLY, on high, with 8x anti-aliasing, my graphics card is pretty ****, I'm upgrading my graphics card in the near future, and I was wondering if a better graphics card actually had the ability to upscale the graphics? Or once you run everything at max, is that the roof of how good the graphics get?



For example, I wonder if my new graphics card had a better texture shader, would textures look cleaner than they already are on max or would they look the same?

[Gorath Alpha]

A Mainline Gaming card is a Medium card for Medium Resolutions, Medium Image Quality, and very good frame rates.  Individual gamers can juggle things around, getting High Image Settings by accepting slower frame rates and / or lowered resolutions.  Screen Resolution differences are the largest infkuence on performance. 

At the borderline between Mainline and High End, Maxed Out Image Quality is easily reachable without loss of ftame rate, as long as you keep resolutions in the Medium Range.  The only real reason to take the next step all rthe way into High End is to go to High resolution settings, where a lot of VRAM is required,  which just isn't useful on lesser cards.  A Mainline card typically has a 128 bit memory system, which effectively caps regular RAM availability at 256 MBs, and occasional RAM availability at 512 MBs.

Card producers like to run a Scam and put a lot of slow RAM on their cheaper cards to make them seem desireable, however, that is a waste in many ways.  Extra heat, extra power consumption, a drain on future availability of rare earth elements, etc.

Does this answer what you wanted to know?  I suggest the HD 5770 as the ordinary gamer's max card choice for Medium Resolution gaming.

Gorath

[ElectricWizard]

I was going to get an XFX overclocked version of the GeForce GTX260, but I will take a look.

[Wredbeard]

Hey guys,
I know this thread is old and I suppose the game's been around for a while, but a friend of mine told me to look into this and after trolling through reviews and gameplay videos I really want it on my laptop!
I've got a PS3 but graphically it looks so much nicer on PC (gfx card permitting).

Now I'm pretty useless with system specs etc so if any of the following really stands out please say so

I've recently upgraded to Windows 7 Pro (64 bit) on my Dell Inspiron 1720 Laptop..

 CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 @ 2.20 GHz 
 RAM: 4 GB
 VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT


I'll be looking to download it off Steam probably but if its going to fail miserably then I will just deal with PS3 until I buy a decent desktop

Cheers in advance!

Modifié par Wredbeard, 10 janvier 2011 - 10:37 .

[OBakaSama]

No idea!

Usual responses I've seen is don't count on an 'ordinary' laptop to run games (seems to be a general rule of thumb I've seen anyway), and that gaming laptops are way too expensive. (Judging from the specs I would lean towards 'no' myself.)

Have you downloaded the Character Creator? I'd suggest doing that to see how your laptop copes with it. If it's all smooth and everything then perhaps the game will run. I'm not saying it's a surefire way of getting an answer but it gives you an indication. For example, if you try and move the model around and the movement onscreen is all jerky then the game will not play smoothly.

My experience is from having a Quadcore Q6600 with an *ahem* nVidia 8400GS which is way below spec. It 'can' run Dragon Age, but extremely poorly.

[PatT2]

I purchased an ASUS gaming laptop this past summer. I have been playing DA since the day it was out (not nonstop...took breaks this summer and fall and with a few other games in between) but my point is that I've played it on the 360 for the first 8 months or so, then got it for the PC (laptop) after that.

Now this laptop is not light weight, but I spend a lot of time "away" from home (months at at time).
All my observations are based on this laptop being plugged into the wall during play.
I use a lap-desk with some serious cooling fans underneath it (but it doesn't seem to need it much). It doesn't get hot.

It has:

ATI mobility Radeon HD 5870 with 1 Gb ram.
17.1" screen 1600 x 900 native resolution (which is the resolution I play at) 16x9
6 gb ram
Intel I7 processor 1.6 GHz (running at 1.87 GHz) but can run at 2.6 or higher.
500 Gb HD 7200 rpm (which is the choke point on this pc. Microsoft's numbers give me a 7.2  for video, and only a 5.9 for hard drive read/writes. So there's a bandwidth choke there...? But I haven't noticed any load time issues.

The detail on this game is far, far superior on the PC (this one anyway) than it is on the 360, visually. The levels of detail are ...well...I can't really believe it's the same game. I also like the action bar.

I play on Graphics Detail: Very high
AA: x4
Texture detail: high
Vertical Sync and Frame Buffer effects on.
Direct X10/11 version

It's not universally true that laptops cannot run these games. However, most probaly can't. A desktop system with more power would have cost less, but would be impractical for my personal situation which is why I bit the bullet.

But the game is superior on the pc, even a laptop, if you can run it, without cutting down the quality (which I don't).

I don't understand the low GHz rating of the i7 but it doesn't seem slow and it doesn't test slow.

THe exact specs on the video card are here: http://www.amd.com/u...5870-specs.aspx