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[Hells_Assassin]

Death to the save loop............I am all for the ransom of Laidlaw as well

[Damoroc]

azreal117 wrote...

ea is part of it to. dont forget

Indeed. They partly ruined Warhammer (or totally ruined, perhaps) by forcing Mythic to release an unfinished product. Maybe now they're forcing Bioware to make games more suited for multi-core processors? Speculation, but problems like this (games being unplayabe on single-cores) arising multiple times, it'd be easier for them to come out and say "Our games are not intended to work for single-cores."

[BrianDonn]

Oh my ... the Save / No Save ... Load Loop of Death - and have tried atleat 6 times and wasted 2 days ... come on ... Bioware ... what a launch bug ... help ASAP ... please

[gene465]

I am in the same boat single core will not load into Kirkwall tried three times now no save options either.

[jenncircus]

You'd think that since so many people are having this problem (single core like me and it sounds like a lot of multi core folks as well) that bioware would at least offer us some bioware points (for the addons we have to get) to make up for us spending $60.+ for a game we can't play for the moment. Doing that won't make up for the frustration factor but at least we'd know they really want to keep their costumers happy and they want us to continue to keep playing their games. I understand it takes time to diagonse and fix but in the mean time there are alot of pissed off people just getting madder. If you go to a hotel and u are unhappy with your stay they usually take some money off your bill in an atempt to keep your business. Come on bioware make me feel like you want my continued business!!

[Dark Nekomancy]

I too am having this issue. It's in a continual loop when trying to save

[SheilaD67]

jenncircus wrote...

You'd think that since so many people are having this problem (single core like me and it sounds like a lot of multi core folks as well) that bioware would at least offer us some bioware points (for the addons we have to get) to make up for us spending $60.+ for a game we can't play for the moment. Doing that won't make up for the frustration factor but at least we'd know they really want to keep their costumers happy and they want us to continue to keep playing their games. I understand it takes time to diagonse and fix but in the mean time there are alot of pissed off people just getting madder. If you go to a hotel and u are unhappy with your stay they usually take some money off your bill in an atempt to keep your business. Come on bioware make me feel like you want my continued business!!

BioWare is working on the issue, and I'm certain they'll have a fix up soon.  I am hoping by the weekend.

Just in BioWare's defense, they do have as part of the requirements that a duo CPU is required to play the game.  I think that they still should have taken single core users into consideration, considering that many nice computers still use single core, and that by not doing so was rather short sighted of them.  However, we cannot use a single core and then demand they compensate us with anything more than a valid fix to the issue. 

Relax, play DA:O again, read some of the FF and they'll have a solution up as soon as they can.  Me?  I'm gonna continue with my playthrough with my male Dalish entropic mage, get Alistair into my tent, and have some fun!

[Docam]

jenncircus wrote...

You'd think that since so many people are having this problem (single core like me and it sounds like a lot of multi core folks as well) that bioware would at least offer us some bioware points (for the addons we have to get) to make up for us spending $60.+ for a game we can't play for the moment. Doing that won't make up for the frustration factor but at least we'd know they really want to keep their costumers happy and they want us to continue to keep playing their games. I understand it takes time to diagonse and fix but in the mean time there are alot of pissed off people just getting madder. If you go to a hotel and u are unhappy with your stay they usually take some money off your bill in an atempt to keep your business. Come on bioware make me feel like you want my continued business!!

Sounds nice, I'd love some bioware points.


but putting myself in their shoes, I wouldn't give out any freebies. Since not everyone couldn't play, just people using one core.


Side note: I'll take a 2xl Bioware shirt or any Bioware gear over the points though

[Warrior Priest]

loop loop i loop loop...
anger +10
Disapointment +5
Beer +1

[xyeeman]

i love how ppl are just so ok with bioware screwing us over. heres a brand new car! u can drive it and it runs great! u just cant use the brakes or shut the passanger door, but hey we are working on fixing the problem so its ok!

[Nasmodok]

Eva Galana wrote...
Just in BioWare's defense, they do have as part of the requirements that a duo CPU is required to play the game.  I think that they still should have taken single core users into consideration, considering that many nice computers still use single core, and that by not doing so was rather short sighted of them.  However, we cannot use a single core and then demand they compensate us with anything more than a valid fix to the issue. 

2cores are not always better than one... my computer DOES meet the
minimum requirements and proves it with performance.   Therefore I DO
meet the minimum requirements by having one core.

It's like
saying you must have an apple, and then not making the game work for
oranges too.  They should have made it work for both fruit in the first
place.  It doesn't matter if apples taste better..

[iExpo]

Nasmodok wrote...

Eva Galana wrote...
Just in BioWare's defense, they do have as part of the requirements that a duo CPU is required to play the game.  I think that they still should have taken single core users into consideration, considering that many nice computers still use single core, and that by not doing so was rather short sighted of them.  However, we cannot use a single core and then demand they compensate us with anything more than a valid fix to the issue. 

2cores are not always better than one... my computer DOES meet the
minimum requirements and proves it with performance.   Therefore I DO
meet the minimum requirements by having one core.

It's like
saying you must have an apple, and then not making the game work for
oranges too.  They should have made it work for both fruit in the first
place.  It doesn't matter if apples taste better..

2 cores are always better than 1... obviously you dont understand the concept of threading and how applications like DA2 take advantage of it. The system requirments of this game require 2 cores and you have 1 core therefore you do NOT meet minimum requirments. All of you quit your ****ing, its not biowares fault that you all have crappy singlecores.

i agree with eva

Modifié par iExpo, 10 mars 2011 - 07:55 .

[teeballin]

Neat! no one cares about your opinion and no one cares about how u think u know about threading....... why are u on the forums if u can play the game? ***king loser!!!

[azreal117]

while the using multicores to their full potential is a great idea. it still forces customers to either return their game (bioware losing money) or upgrade driving their customers away (again bioware losing money).

[Damoroc]

iExpo wrote...

2 cores are always better than 1... obviously you dont understand the concept of threading and how applications like DA2 take advantage of it. The system requirments of this game require 2 cores and you have 1 core therefore you do NOT meet minimum requirments. All of you quit your ****ing, its not biowares fault that you all have crappy singlecores.

i agree with eva

I understand where you're coming from (though you being so hostile about it is laughable).

But, Bioware should have made it compatible with single-cores from the beginning. Why?:

1.) Yeah, they posted the minimum requirements and said duo-cores were the minimum requirement. However, not everyone is so knowledgable of computer hardware terms, so a simple all bold "SINGLE CORE COMPUTERS DO NEED MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS" would have worked wonders, otherwise it's almost a bait-and-switch.

2.) It saves time and money not having to push out a fix right after release.

3.) Bioware has had similar problems with single-core users complaining on two other games, they should have learned by now that even if they say it's not for single-cores, single-core people are gonna buy it anyway.

4.) More compatibility for more computers = more customers = more money. It's as simple as that. It's better for business for them to just make it usable with single-core computers from the very beginning.

Modifié par Damoroc, 10 mars 2011 - 11:29 .

[azreal117]

Damoroc wrote...

iExpo wrote...

Nasmodok wrote...

Eva Galana wrote...
Just in BioWare's defense, they do have as part of the requirements that a duo CPU is required to play the game.  I think that they still should have taken single core users into consideration, considering that many nice computers still use single core, and that by not doing so was rather short sighted of them.  However, we cannot use a single core and then demand they compensate us with anything more than a valid fix to the issue. 

2cores are not always better than one... my computer DOES meet the
minimum requirements and proves it with performance.   Therefore I DO
meet the minimum requirements by having one core.

It's like
saying you must have an apple, and then not making the game work for
oranges too.  They should have made it work for both fruit in the first
place.  It doesn't matter if apples taste better..

2 cores are always better than 1... obviously you dont understand the concept of threading and how applications like DA2 take advantage of it. The system requirments of this game require 2 cores and you have 1 core therefore you do NOT meet minimum requirments. All of you quit your ****ing, its not biowares fault that you all have crappy singlecores.

i agree with eva

I understand where you're coming from (though you being so hostile about it is laughable).

But, Bioware should have made it compatible with single-cores from the beginning. Why?:

1.) Yeah, they posted the minimum requirements and said duo-cores were the minimum requirement. However, not everyone is so knowledgable of computer hardware terms, so a simple all bold "SINGLE CORE COMPUTERS DO NEED MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS" would have worked wonders, otherwise it's almost a bait-and-switch.

2.) It saves time and money not having to push out a fix right after release.

3.) Bioware has had similar problems with single-core users complaining on two other games, they should have learned by now that even if they say it's not for single-cores, single-core people are gonna buy it anyway.

4.) More compatibility for more computers = more customers = more money. It's as simple as that. It's better for business for them to just make it usable with single-core computers from the very beginning.

thank you. the more poeple a game is available  for. the more money they can bring in. 
 

[iExpo]

Damoroc wrote...

I understand where you're coming from (though you being so hostile about it is laughable).

But, Bioware should have made it compatible with single-cores from the beginning. Why?:

1.) Yeah, they posted the minimum requirements and said duo-cores were the minimum requirement. However, not everyone is so knowledgable of computer hardware terms, so a simple all bold "SINGLE CORE COMPUTERS DO NEED MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS" would have worked wonders, otherwise it's almost a bait-and-switch.

2.) It saves time and money not having to push out a fix right after release.

3.) Bioware has had similar problems with single-core users complaining on two other games, they should have learned by now that even if they say it's not for single-cores, single-core people are gonna buy it anyway.

4.) More compatibility for more computers = more customers = more money. It's as simple as that. It's better for business for them to just make it usable with single-core computers from the very beginning.

 
I totally agree. I was mainly posting in reply to that fool who though his single core met system requirments because his computer "performs well" and then tried to make an analogy which made no sense. If they say you must have an apple to run the game than you must have an apple. Nowhere on the box does it say oranges; so the people who own oranges are not in a place to get mad. In his way of thinking, people with the 360's should be raging because they cant play their disk at their friends house who own a ps3.


If you all are so p.o'ed at bioware so much then dont support them. Regardless, they will have money flowing in from everyone with dual/tri/quad/hexcores, 360s, ps3's and macs. Just be lucky that they might release a fix and you are even able to play. The handfull of singlecore cpu's still for sale on the market are just as expensive as most of the dual cores. Maybe its time for an upgrade.

[Jon Jern_]

My favourite part in your post is how you call all our computers "****ty".

[Damoroc]

iExpo wrote...
 
I totally agree. I was mainly posting in reply to that fool who though his single core met system requirments because his computer "performs well" and then tried to make an analogy which made no sense. If they say you must have an apple to run the game than you must have an apple. Nowhere on the box does it say oranges; so the people who own oranges are not in a place to get mad. In his way of thinking, people with the 360's should be raging because they cant play their disk at their friends house who own a ps3.

If you all are so p.o'ed at bioware so much then dont support them. Regardless, they will have money flowing in from everyone with dual/tri/quad/hexcores, 360s, ps3's and macs. Just be lucky that they might release a fix and you are even able to play. The handfull of singlecore cpu's still for sale on the market are just as expensive as most of the dual cores. Maybe its time for an upgrade.

There's a difference between upgrading a part of your computer and buying a whole new one. Should you be required sometimes to buy an upgraded part? I think so. But a whole computer? Not unless your computer is 3+ years old (mine is less than a year). Also, upgrading your processor is a much more difficult task (I don't know how to do it, or if it can be done, I'm not super knowedgable with computer hardware) than other upgrades.

Need more RAM? Spend $20 at Newegg and slap on the new stick. Need a better video card? Spend $80 and pop it in.

These fixes are much easier than replacing the processor, so I really don't think Bioware, and by extension all video game developers, should be giving up on single-cores until their customers have.

[iExpo]

Jon Jern wrote...

My favourite part in your post is how you call all our computers "****ty".

if it has a single core then your your computer is crap. they use single cores on phones ffs.

[iannellikj]

Define crap. In most cases, programs don't take advantage of the second core and a 4Ghz single core is generally better than a 1.8 Ghz dual core when looking for a computer.

[iExpo]

iannellikj wrote...

Define crap. In most cases, programs don't take advantage of the second core and a 4Ghz single core is generally better than a 1.8 Ghz dual core when looking for a computer.

Good luck finding a 4ghz single core, and if you going to overclock it to 4ghz and compare it to a stock 1.8 ghz dual core does not make sense. Now if u can o.c. a single core to 4ghz with the right hardware then you should be able to get the 1.8 to 3.0 (i had a amd 3800x2 soc939 back in the day O.C. to this which happens to be a 1.8 dualcore ) with the same temps using the same hardware. in this case the dualcore would outshine. You are right though,  older programs don't take advantage of 2+ cores, more and more do though which is why singlecore are almost obsolete(and are obsolete for the use in a gaming computer imo)

not to mention 2.8singlecores are the same price as a 2.8 dualcore on newegg.

Modifié par iExpo, 11 mars 2011 - 01:10 .

[azreal117]

i have a standard 3.2ghz single and my games run well. better than my friends multicore at times. and most games are rated for single and dual.

[Jon Jern_]

Crap computer or not, I can run this game perfectly. I don't think I need to spend $100 for a dual core to get a whopping 3 FPS increase!

[Nasmodok]

iannellikj wrote...

Define crap. In most cases, programs don't take advantage of the second core and a 4Ghz single core is generally better than a 1.8 Ghz dual core when looking for a computer.

exactly..

I was going to ignore the dumba** but hey, since you spelled it out for him. 

I realize more cores have higher POTENTIAL.. however, overclocking, etc provide the ability for single core to dominate the MINIMUM required dual core.. thus making my computer more than above and beyond the minimum box requirements.

I never meant all dual cores are not better.  I'm just saying in terms of processing power mine can do better than the minimum one in the same task (assuming the task isn't programmed for only the second core, as it is in DA2).  The funny eye'd smiley after my post was because I knew it was a bad analogy and i was hoping you'd see the point and not read into it so litterally..

And I know quite a bit about computers.. thus the ability to still use a hella-nice single core before I get my new one (which will be this fall btw, in time for Tera and soon Diablo 3).

Finally, I'm not ****ing about bioware, I'm just stating that I have a single core and am awaiting the fix.