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[Murlocks89]

During the quest where you can get money to pay for the expedition from Dougal, is it possible to take his offer and kill him later so you lose no mony? Thanks! Please keep spoilers to a minimum!

[Dante Angelo]

Nope

Don't you just miss coercion??

Modifié par Dante Angelo, 10 mars 2011 - 02:23 .

[David Gaider]

Murlocks89 wrote...
During the quest where you can get money to pay for the expedition from Dougal, is it possible to take his offer and kill him later so you lose no mony? Thanks! Please keep spoilers to a minimum!

Yes. Just take the money and, when he returns in Act 2, refuse to pay him. You'll get a chance to kill him later on.

[Murlocks89]

Awesome thanks!

[Yodefet]

Dante Angelo wrote...

Nope

Don't you just miss coercion??

Considering you could max it around the time you reached Lothering, causing you to be able to bend every conversation to your will, I'm going to say "no".

[Everwarden]

Yodefet wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

Nope

Don't you just miss coercion??

Considering you could max it around the time you reached Lothering, causing you to be able to bend every conversation to your will, I'm going to say "no".

Entirely untrue! There were quite a few examples where having a silver tongue did nothing. With the slaver, for example. Or at the Landsmeet, where having a silver tongue didn't save you unless you used the right arguments.

*sigh* I do miss coercion. Though with voice acting I can imagine why it's gone. In real life there is no way to sound charming enough to convince a dwarf man to sell his daughter to a brothel (or something equally ridiculous you'd need coercion for). For that reason, I hope they drop the voice acted protagonist in DA3.

[Irill]

I agree. DA2 seriously lacks some of the stuff like coercion that DAO had. All in all I think it is a much inferior game. Sad really, they were on to a good thing.

[yogolol]

Everwarden wrote...

Yodefet wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

Nope

Don't you just miss coercion??

Considering you could max it around the time you reached Lothering, causing you to be able to bend every conversation to your will, I'm going to say "no".

Entirely untrue! There were quite a few examples where having a silver tongue did nothing. With the slaver, for example. Or at the Landsmeet, where having a silver tongue didn't save you unless you used the right arguments.

*sigh* I do miss coercion. Though with voice acting I can imagine why it's gone. In real life there is no way to sound charming enough to convince a dwarf man to sell his daughter to a brothel (or something equally ridiculous you'd need coercion for). For that reason, I hope they drop the voice acted protagonist in DA3.

Wait you want them to drop the voiced protagonist so you can convince people to do unrealistic things that they would never do? No thank you.

[ColdEnd]

You can do anything with voice acting that you could have done with text... it's a rediculous premise to asume you cannot, simply because to you, in reality, think a voice would or would not be "charming enough".

The way that the new conversation method tracks your responses and uses the role you are playing to actually set the tone of your character in future cut-scenes and banter, more than makes up for any cheesy gimick game mechanic that boils down to "I get more gold when I say 'this'."

Modifié par ColdEnd, 28 mars 2011 - 08:18 .

[tanuki]

Well I consider "star" option to be a bit like coercion. i wish there'd be more of that though. And based not on "coercion" skill but your influence over a person (if one of your companions) or knowledge (if you, let's say, investigated thoroughly all dialogue options in some other talk before, or did some quest, etc.). Well, that was actually what they did more or less , I just want more opportunities to use it.

[earl of the north]

David Gaider wrote...

Murlocks89 wrote...
During the quest where you can get money to pay for the expedition from Dougal, is it possible to take his offer and kill him later so you lose no mony? Thanks! Please keep spoilers to a minimum!

Yes. Just take the money and, when he returns in Act 2, refuse to pay him. You'll get a chance to kill him later on.

Dare I disagree.

I dare.

Dougal's appearance in Act 2 is an attempt to get more money out of Hawke with a little blackmail rather than his attempt to be re-paid for the loan of the money.....you don't get the 50 gold Bodan gives you at the start Act 2 (you do if you paid for the expedition yourself), so you have already paid Dougal back at that point.

Its worth taking Dougal's money for the "tell me you didn't eat the cake" dialogue....especially with a sarcastic female Hawke.

Modifié par earl of the north, 28 mars 2011 - 11:52 .

[Joy Divison]

earl of the north wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Murlocks89 wrote...
During the quest where you can get money to pay for the expedition from Dougal, is it possible to take his offer and kill him later so you lose no mony? Thanks! Please keep spoilers to a minimum!

Yes. Just take the money and, when he returns in Act 2, refuse to pay him. You'll get a chance to kill him later on.

Dare I disagree.

I dare.

Dougal's appearance in Act 2 is an attempt to get more money out of Hawke with a little blackmail rather than his attempt to be re-paid for the loan of the money.....you don't get the 50 gold Bodan gives you at the start Act 2 (you do if you paid for the expedition yourself), so you have already paid Dougal back at that point.

Its worth taking Dougal's money for the "tell me you didn't eat the cake" dialogue....especially with a sarcastic female Hawke.

I've played the game thrice, always took his money, and never got the "cake" dialogue.  What's the sequence you have to follow to get that?

[earl of the north]

Joy Divison wrote...

I've played the game thrice, always took his money, and never got the "cake" dialogue.  What's the sequence you have to follow to get that?

I didn't take it on my last playthrough (rolling in cash), but from memory.......


Head to the mansion at the start of Act 2, Dougal tells Hawke that he should have done better out of the deal and mentions Hawkes mother. Chose the jokey or diamonds icon and you should get the "she spends all day experimenting with poisons and making cakes" dialogue.

Modifié par earl of the north, 28 mars 2011 - 07:19 .