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#151
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Shavon wrote...

Also, I can't get Ilen in the dalish camp to trade with me for her gift.  Is there something I must do to get him to trade?


Are you clicking on him or the chest beside him? I did that the first time I tried to buy it.

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Both, lol.

Well, if I cant get the gift, hopefully it won't prevent completion of the romance . . .

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:/ If it makes you feel better I just realized I made the same mistake... getting the impression that finding the gift after the companion quest was a not so great happenstance...

Bah, there's no way I'm going back to that old a save. Maybe it'll work out in Act 3, and these other companions just put out faster?

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Meh . . i'll kill the Vaterral again, that wasn't as hard as the one on WH dlc, but I've done so much more since then . ..
D:

Meh, she's worth it. Seriously, Bw has outdone themselves with the romances in this game

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Has anyone had any luck with a SUCCESSFUL Sebastian romance? Does he at least kiss you?


I'd also like to know. I'm pondering making him my next LI, but I'm taking my sweet time for another playthrough. I want to know how that works out before I have misplaced time.

It isn't reassuring that all the people who have so far had romances with him haven't said anything about any intimacy between the two of you, nor is it that the only thing I've heard of so far is for him to remark the whole 'In another life...' line at the end of it all. Image IPB

I'm hoping it's just a glitch or a result of a bad choice.



Sebastian has taken a vow of chastity and it is implied at least that if you marry him you will never be physical.  As for a kiss, at least, I'm not sure. I've not found a video of it yet ~ and I'm going to take a while before I do it myself as I <3 Anders far too much.

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CeolmharAnam wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Has anyone had any luck with a SUCCESSFUL Sebastian romance? Does he at least kiss you?


I'd also like to know. I'm pondering making him my next LI, but I'm taking my sweet time for another playthrough. I want to know how that works out before I have misplaced time.

It isn't reassuring that all the people who have so far had romances with him haven't said anything about any intimacy between the two of you, nor is it that the only thing I've heard of so far is for him to remark the whole 'In another life...' line at the end of it all. Image IPB

I'm hoping it's just a glitch or a result of a bad choice.



Sebastian has taken a vow of chastity and it is implied at least that if you marry him you will never be physical.  As for a kiss, at least, I'm not sure. I've not found a video of it yet ~ and I'm going to take a while before I do it myself as I <3 Anders far too much.


A vow of chastity is not the same as a vow of celibacy.  A vow of chastity simply means no sex before marriage.

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Steelcry wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

Hey...i read somewhere else, that you need high rivalry and be a mage to save Fenris, is this true?............


As far as I know no, in fact being a mage will make things harder for you. Even more so if you have high rivalry.


Did a romance with Fenris(didn't complete it.. I did Anders instead) with a female mage, sided with the mages, and fenris stayed by my side for the final battle. Friendship maxed.

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Syndria wrote...

Steelcry wrote...

QwibQwib wrote...

Hey...i read somewhere else, that you need high rivalry and be a mage to save Fenris, is this true?............


As far as I know no, in fact being a mage will make things harder for you. Even more so if you have high rivalry.


Did a romance with Fenris(didn't complete it.. I did Anders instead) with a female mage, sided with the mages, and fenris stayed by my side for the final battle. Friendship maxed.


I was a mage in my first playthrough, and I openly supported Mages, romanced Anders etc. Even so, my friendship with Fenris was nearly 100% and I got him to stay in the end. It's just SO difficult to have Fenris and Anders in the party at once. There were multiple times I wanted my Hawke to reach back there and bonk them with her staff. :whistle:

In my next playthrough, I shall be a rogue who supports mages AND romances Fenris. I'm going to see if I can duplicate him staying in the end. Should be fun. <3

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Interesting, have not got that far yet, I take my sweet time, I was on here looking to see if a guide had been posted on the correct responses to improve relations with certain party members. As tricky as it is, none of it is as annoying as trying to get Sten from Dragon Age to like you, I swear I was cussing at that giant by the time I figured it out >,<

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Tielis wrote...

CeolmharAnam wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Has anyone had any luck with a SUCCESSFUL Sebastian romance? Does he at least kiss you?


I'd also like to know. I'm pondering making him my next LI, but I'm taking my sweet time for another playthrough. I want to know how that works out before I have misplaced time.

It isn't reassuring that all the people who have so far had romances with him haven't said anything about any intimacy between the two of you, nor is it that the only thing I've heard of so far is for him to remark the whole 'In another life...' line at the end of it all. Image IPB

I'm hoping it's just a glitch or a result of a bad choice.



Sebastian has taken a vow of chastity and it is implied at least that if you marry him you will never be physical.  As for a kiss, at least, I'm not sure. I've not found a video of it yet ~ and I'm going to take a while before I do it myself as I <3 Anders far too much.


A vow of chastity is not the same as a vow of celibacy.  A vow of chastity simply means no sex before marriage.


For the moment I can't find the exact point where it says whether he's taken a vow of chastity or celibacy, but from all research I've done "chastity" means the state of abstaining from all sex even after marriage, and "celibacy" is the state of abstaning from /all/ sexually-related activities as well as and sometimes including marriage itself  ~ but I really doubt the devs did that much research into the two topics since in the present-day they're commonly used as surrogate words for one another. 
However, I know the guidebook calls your relationship with Sebastian "an unconventional partnership", so I'm assuming that's what they mean. If it's not and it only means "no bedtime antics before marriage" then I am highly annoyed that they feel the need to lable that "unconventional" :P. Anyway, considering that the story ends after that, I suppose it's all up to the player's imagination just what your Hawke and Prince Vael got up to, eh? I mean, who could /resist/ those little black and pink swimsuit-corsets that they put on Merrill and so many of the other women in-game? (Ed. note: it looks like something my neighbor's malibu barbie used to wear >.<)

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Sorry if it's been asked before but I didn't wanna scroll through 7 pages trying to find it so my question is this, what are Merhill's gifts and where do you find them?

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guys, did you get fenris to move in? i didn't...
I did all his quests gave him kiss, i only got him to sleep with me but no move in, nothing =\\

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QwibQwib wrote...

guys, did you get fenris to move in? i didn't...
I did all his quests gave him kiss, i only got him to sleep with me but no move in, nothing =

The core of his romance is the fact that he never commit (move in in our case) tile he come to terms with his demons and it is in the act 3 only. Guide apparently made a mistake telling this is possible. It is a strange romance. Only Isabela one is more strange=).

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CeolmharAnam wrote...

Tielis wrote...

CeolmharAnam wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Has anyone had any luck with a SUCCESSFUL Sebastian romance? Does he at least kiss you?


I'd also like to know. I'm pondering making him my next LI, but I'm taking my sweet time for another playthrough. I want to know how that works out before I have misplaced time.

It isn't reassuring that all the people who have so far had romances with him haven't said anything about any intimacy between the two of you, nor is it that the only thing I've heard of so far is for him to remark the whole 'In another life...' line at the end of it all. Image IPB

I'm hoping it's just a glitch or a result of a bad choice.



Sebastian has taken a vow of chastity and it is implied at least that if you marry him you will never be physical.  As for a kiss, at least, I'm not sure. I've not found a video of it yet ~ and I'm going to take a while before I do it myself as I <3 Anders far too much.


A vow of chastity is not the same as a vow of celibacy.  A vow of chastity simply means no sex before marriage.


For the moment I can't find the exact point where it says whether he's taken a vow of chastity or celibacy, but from all research I've done "chastity" means the state of abstaining from all sex even after marriage, and "celibacy" is the state of abstaning from /all/ sexually-related activities as well as and sometimes including marriage itself  ~ but I really doubt the devs did that much research into the two topics since in the present-day they're commonly used as surrogate words for one another. 
However, I know the guidebook calls your relationship with Sebastian "an unconventional partnership", so I'm assuming that's what they mean. If it's not and it only means "no bedtime antics before marriage" then I am highly annoyed that they feel the need to lable that "unconventional" :P. Anyway, considering that the story ends after that, I suppose it's all up to the player's imagination just what your Hawke and Prince Vael got up to, eh? I mean, who could /resist/ those little black and pink swimsuit-corsets that they put on Merrill and so many of the other women in-game? (Ed. note: it looks like something my neighbor's malibu barbie used to wear >.<)


Well, if you're arguing that in modern day usage, celibacy and chastity mean the same thing, then yes, saving oneself for marriage would be considered "unconventional".  Heck, most kids these days wouldn't dream of waiting, especially the ones playing these games, but that's another topic that goes beyond these forums.

According to the person in the thread below who has played through, Sebastian proposes marriage, but then at the end he somehow "forgets" about any sort of partnership whatsoever.  This is what we're upset about.  It's a tease and you get nothing but a letdown for your effort.

http://social.biowar...68986/1#6493985

Modifié par Tielis, 12 mars 2011 - 05:14 .


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phantomdragoness wrote...



I was a mage in my first playthrough, and I openly supported Mages, romanced Anders etc. Even so, my friendship with Fenris was nearly 100% and I got him to stay in the end. It's just SO difficult to have Fenris and Anders in the party at once. There were multiple times I wanted my Hawke to reach back there and bonk them with her staff. :whistle:

In my next playthrough, I shall be a rogue who supports mages AND romances Fenris. I'm going to see if I can duplicate him staying in the end. Should be fun. <3


I just finished my first play through with Rogue LH and I romanced Fenris, and supported Mages. He stayed!

Though I still question if there's still the whole jealousy thing if you romance more than one person. Cause I had Anders kissing me after I had already slept with Fenris and had his relationship started. I ended up breaking it off with Anders because I didn't want to muck up Fenris.

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"Isabella: You have to be on the friendship path"...

Wait, so you're saying that one can't romance Isabela as a Rival? Oh, crap! Image IPB Image IPB ....



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HenchxNarf wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...



I was a mage in my first playthrough, and I openly supported Mages, romanced Anders etc. Even so, my friendship with Fenris was nearly 100% and I got him to stay in the end. It's just SO difficult to have Fenris and Anders in the party at once. There were multiple times I wanted my Hawke to reach back there and bonk them with her staff. :whistle:

In my next playthrough, I shall be a rogue who supports mages AND romances Fenris. I'm going to see if I can duplicate him staying in the end. Should be fun. <3


I just finished my first play through with Rogue LH and I romanced Fenris, and supported Mages. He stayed!

Though I still question if there's still the whole jealousy thing if you romance more than one person. Cause I had Anders kissing me after I had already slept with Fenris and had his relationship started. I ended up breaking it off with Anders because I didn't want to muck up Fenris.


LOL how did that jealousy thing go exactly? Seeing as Anders will have it out with Fenris even if you didn't romance Anders while with Fenris.

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I just finished the game having romanced Isabelle AND Merril. Merril was living in my flat at the end of the game, though it recognized me as having won over Isabelle completely. There was a cutscene somewhere in Act 3 when I approached Isabelle at Hangman's and she asked if I was interested in Merril. Being the dirty rogue I am, I said no to which she replied that was a good thing. Or she'd have to cut something very valuable to me off. Not sure what all paths I took to get there, but that's what happened.

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Malja wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...



I was a mage in my first playthrough, and I openly supported Mages, romanced Anders etc. Even so, my friendship with Fenris was nearly 100% and I got him to stay in the end. It's just SO difficult to have Fenris and Anders in the party at once. There were multiple times I wanted my Hawke to reach back there and bonk them with her staff. :whistle:

In my next playthrough, I shall be a rogue who supports mages AND romances Fenris. I'm going to see if I can duplicate him staying in the end. Should be fun. <3


I just finished my first play through with Rogue LH and I romanced Fenris, and supported Mages. He stayed!

Though I still question if there's still the whole jealousy thing if you romance more than one person. Cause I had Anders kissing me after I had already slept with Fenris and had his relationship started. I ended up breaking it off with Anders because I didn't want to muck up Fenris.


LOL how did that jealousy thing go exactly? Seeing as Anders will have it out with Fenris even if you didn't romance Anders while with Fenris.


Well he kept asking if I was sure about Fenris, or if "the dog finally bit you off" or something lol

My next playthrough I'm totally hussy-ing it up and gonna try to romance Fenris and Anders at the same time. Maybe even Isabella too (I'm pulling a Persona 3 Portable and trying all my options)

Merril teases Fenris if you romance him 100%. Says he looks at FemHawke with puppy dog eyes and he's in love. It's cute lol

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HenchxNarf wrote...

Malja wrote...

LOL how did that jealousy thing go exactly? Seeing as Anders will have it out with Fenris even if you didn't romance Anders while with Fenris.


Well he kept asking if I was sure about Fenris, or if "the dog finally bit you off" or something lol

My next playthrough I'm totally hussy-ing it up and gonna try to romance Fenris and Anders at the same time. Maybe even Isabella too (I'm pulling a Persona 3 Portable and trying all my options)

Merril teases Fenris if you romance him 100%. Says he looks at FemHawke with puppy dog eyes and he's in love. It's cute lol


Oh, Anders isn't required for that. :D I got that too and I was straight with Fenris (as in, didn't go to anyone else). I had a 'lulwut' when he confronted me in the sewers about him.

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Malja wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Malja wrote...

LOL how did that jealousy thing go exactly? Seeing as Anders will have it out with Fenris even if you didn't romance Anders while with Fenris.


Well he kept asking if I was sure about Fenris, or if "the dog finally bit you off" or something lol

My next playthrough I'm totally hussy-ing it up and gonna try to romance Fenris and Anders at the same time. Maybe even Isabella too (I'm pulling a Persona 3 Portable and trying all my options)

Merril teases Fenris if you romance him 100%. Says he looks at FemHawke with puppy dog eyes and he's in love. It's cute lol


Oh, Anders isn't required for that. :D I got that too and I was straight with Fenris (as in, didn't go to anyone else). I had a 'lulwut' when he confronted me in the sewers about him.


lol it was funny.

And then you flirt with Zephran and Fenris is like ****noillcutyou!

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HenchxNarf wrote...

Malja wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Malja wrote...

LOL how did that jealousy thing go exactly? Seeing as Anders will have it out with Fenris even if you didn't romance Anders while with Fenris.


Well he kept asking if I was sure about Fenris, or if "the dog finally bit you off" or something lol

My next playthrough I'm totally hussy-ing it up and gonna try to romance Fenris and Anders at the same time. Maybe even Isabella too (I'm pulling a Persona 3 Portable and trying all my options)

Merril teases Fenris if you romance him 100%. Says he looks at FemHawke with puppy dog eyes and he's in love. It's cute lol


Oh, Anders isn't required for that. :D I got that too and I was straight with Fenris (as in, didn't go to anyone else). I had a 'lulwut' when he confronted me in the sewers about him.


lol it was funny.

And then you flirt with Zephran and Fenris is like ****noillcutyou!


LOL yes. ;D I was expecting Zevran to say 'Oh, I see you already have a handsome elf' or something like that. Can't deny that I was a bit disappointed all he did was passively back off without his usual remarks.

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Malja wrote...



LOL yes. ;D I was expecting Zevran to say 'Oh, I see you already have a handsome elf' or something like that. Can't deny that I was a bit disappointed all he did was passively back off without his usual remarks.


I know! And I wonder if you can smex him if you're not with anyone. I'm tempted to see what Anders would say to that lol But I love Fenris so much, I dunno if I can!

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HenchxNarf wrote...

Malja wrote...



LOL yes. ;D I was expecting Zevran to say 'Oh, I see you already have a handsome elf' or something like that. Can't deny that I was a bit disappointed all he did was passively back off without his usual remarks.


I know! And I wonder if you can smex him if you're not with anyone. I'm tempted to see what Anders would say to that lol But I love Fenris so much, I dunno if I can!


Probably. Doubt they'll comment on it though. If they do I'd get nervous hahah. LIs: Now equipped with the all seeing eye.

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Malja wrote...



Probably. Doubt they'll comment on it though. If they do I'd get nervous hahah. LIs: Now equipped with the all seeing eye.


LOL yes!

That was great.

Me and my bf played through at the same time (his on PC, mine on PS3) and he finished with Isabella, I believe.

I wonder how the Rivalmances go, do you still get to sleep with them?