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[KarlVhazo]

Timon44 wrote...

Agorme wrote...

Only thing that bothers me ,is that i have to use Anders if i want a healer now ...

Honestly I think this game is far more interesting without having a healer in your team. And yes, I also like the longer cooldown that healing potions have now.
In DA:O virtually EVERY player had a healing mage in his party. Without one it is going to be a great challenge to come up with new tactis.
I had Bethandy in my party the whole time, too. Now that I have lost her (to the circle) I am definitely going with Merill. I don't really like Anders

My team in Act 1 was always Merill/Isabella/Bethany. When Bethany left I had to put in Anders.

[Salamander777]

Being Bethany's guardian protector was my character's central motivation. Cutting that cut the game. It's a game over that can't be avoided. I won't be finishing the rest of the game or playing any DLC unless I can muster the interest to play the game in a different and compromised way.

Modifié par Salamander777, 13 mars 2011 - 11:20 .

[XanderCz]

This is stupid, why have so many different choices that don't really matter?

First, if you choose to be a mage, Bethany dies, you're stuck with Carver. If you choose to be a warrior/rogue, Carver dies, you're stuck with Bethany.

Second, if you choose to leave Bethany/Carver home, Carver joins Templar because he's a whiney little sh-, Bethany gets dragged into the Circle.

Third, if you choose to take Bethany/Carver on the expedition, they either die or if you have Anders, they become Wardens.

So the only outcome is - you can't use them, only if you made them Wardens and they still only show up at the end game.

[Cwn Annwyn]

For those of you unaware, you can use the developer console on the PC version to reform your party before you leave the Deep Roads. This allows you to choose how the Darkspawn corruption of your sibling plays out. More importantly, you don't have to waste valuable time replaying the entire Deep Roads if you don't wish to.

[Talahar123]

Well, I knew something was up with Bethany, since she didn't have a special companion tree among her abilities.
So when I took her into the deep roads and Mama Hawke protesting I knew that would be Sunshine's end.
Now I'm pissed off, but in a good way though. I really liked her as a companion.
On my second playthrough she'll survive, though. Guess I'll let Anders make her a Grey Warden.
Carver though? He can run off and play with his Templar buddies, for all I care.

[true_blue]

what the f*ck i dont believe this... why would they remove her from the party?? She was my favourite companion and I took her on EVERY quest for nothing. I expect there will be/is addons that put her back in your party but ffs its just not the same. Why put her on the party selection with a new outfit if she is not playable anymore?? And how do you get the items back from her??
Bleh don't even feel like carrying on with the game anymore now.. bad enough the game was watered and dumbed down and turned into console junk to suit the retards but this just tops it for me. Grats bioware.

Modifié par true_blue, 14 mars 2011 - 06:06 .

[Quill74Pen]

true_blue wrote...

what the f*ck i dont believe this... why would they remove her from the party?? She was my favourite companion and I took her on EVERY quest for nothing. I expect there will be/is addons that put her back in your party but ffs its just not the same. Why put her on the party selection with a new outfit if she is not playable anymore?? And how do you get the items back from her??
Bleh don't even feel like carrying on with the game anymore now.. bad enough the game was watered and dumbed down and turned into console junk to suit the retards but this just tops it for me. Grats bioware.

I, too, am very upset about losing Bethany. Unlike you, though, I plan to finish the game and *not* hurl stereotypical insults at console gamers.

Quill74Pen

[true_blue]

It might be a stereotype but it doesn't mean its not true. Compared to DAO this game sucks because they have removed all the curves which made the original interesting. I am sure I don't need to tell you what is different.. they have just turned it into a fast paced kill kill kill "blood and gore explosions" console mess. All the character of DAO has been removed to make it easier for stupid and impatient people, which just happens to be about 90% of console gamers. But that is sadly the way of video games these days. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if they bring out a DLC soon and try to sell bethany back to us >.<

I am just very disappointed that they removed one of the best characters of the game.. and there wasn't a whole lot keeping me interested in the game due to my complaints above but now my heart just isn't in it anymore.

Although I would still like to know why Bioware chose to remove her.. I mean "whats her name" who becomes captain of the guard still has time to party up so why can't a grey warden.. or atleast be at the family home.

Anyway Enjoy your gaming!

Quill74Pen wrote...

I, too, am very upset about losing Bethany. Unlike you, though, I plan to finish the game and *not* hurl stereotypical insults at console gamers.

Quill74Pen

[mikx82]

true_blue wrote...

what the f*ck i dont believe this... why would they remove her from the party?? She was my favourite companion and I took her on EVERY quest for nothing. I expect there will be/is addons that put her back in your party but ffs its just not the same. Why put her on the party selection with a new outfit if she is not playable anymore?? And how do you get the items back from her??
Bleh don't even feel like carrying on with the game anymore now.. bad enough the game was watered and dumbed down and turned into console junk to suit the retards but this just tops it for me. Grats bioware.

Someone smack this b*sh up. I, for one, am both a console and PC gamer and right now I chose to play DA2 on my console. I, for one, do agree that they had, to an extent, dumbed down, streamlined, simplified or whatever you may want to call it, the game we all so loved. I, for one, find it sad that you're gona lose Bethany which is my favorite companion as well. Alot has been changed from Origins, some are bad, some are good, but I love the lore and the franchise so i'm giving this game a chance to win my heart. BUT to call console gamers RETARDS?? that sir, madame.. or maybe i should just call you BOY, or KID is just plain ignorant. go cry to your mommy since Bioware didnt give you what you want. Go suck on your thumb and wet your bed since you cant handle your seperation anxiety. Bioware had a story in mind and they wanted to tell it this way - and everybody knows everybody cant please everybody. I applaud Bioware for the effort. As for you, KID, grow up and dont post anything ignorant until you do.


@Bioware - pardon me for the outburst. I am aware that what i've written here might be against some of the rules here in the forum but I had to let this KID know that ignorance toward other people shouldnt be tolerated. If you do so wish, delete this response or let me know, i can do it myself..

Modifié par mikx82, 14 mars 2011 - 07:29 .

[Icy Magebane]

You know, that thing about console gamers being retarded is just plain rude. Just because Bioware doesn't give you whatever you want doesn't mean you should take it out on people who have nothing to do with it. >.>

[White_Buffalo94]

Bethany is taken to the Circle if you leave her, becomes a Grey Warden if she is with you and Anders, or dies if she accompanies you without Anders.
Personally, I think it is better to let the Circle have her. In my playthrough, I'm going to destroy the Circle anyway, so I'll save her, and she won't be living a death sentence as a Warden

[Cwn Annwyn]

I'm personally undecided. I have just left the Deep Roads, but I'm aware that later on, you must choose between the circle magi or the templars. This soon into the plot I don't know whom I want to put my vote behind. On one hand, leaving her as a Warden gives you more of her later on in the game, however, choosing the magi seems to provide her with a happier life, and I don't know if I will want to be on their side later on. Decisions, decisions.

[Tristan Dalkamyr]

CLEARLY, Bioware has decided to milk some more Cash sometime soon. They KNOW we're all goin to be pissed at that Bethany loss... and FOR SURE there will be a DLC or Expansion that will have to do with Bethany...

How much do you wanna bet ??? lolzzz )

[Invalidcode]

I assume same time happens to Carver?

I am on my 2nd Hawke, she is a mage, would be very interesting when this happen:

Hawke: Hey little brother guess what? We are RICH!
Carver: Hmm...that's good sis...ha ha (forced laugh), that...that's good... I got a new Job.
Hawke: Oh nice, what is it?
Carver: Templar...
Hawke: WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!

Ha

[Ellri]

Oh... so I MUST lose the one companion that I really liked?


Aww man...

[iwaskurt]

Rage.. I wasted more than enough time on this game. Words are worthless.. I feel cheated. I'm done with Dragon Age simply because of how screwed over I feel by this.

[gelfie]

I gladly left Carver behind in Kirkwall and waved him off to the Templars upon Hawke's return. Carver makes Carth from KOTOR and Anders (DA II) seem like daisies and sunshine in comparison.

[jfp2004]

Yeah. I enjoyed both Bethany and Carver. Having them leave your party no matter what made me angry. It was a nice dynamic to have, regardless of which sibling you used.

[Sericenthe]

Bethany was my fave. I guess I have to learn how to play without a healer.

[Innarra]

Bethany is by far the best mage. She is the only 1 of the 3 that has access to both creation and entropy. The crowd control capabilities of these trees is amazing, and it's too bad you can't utilize them both with Bethany in later chapters.

[Irill]

I agree with the loss of the companion thing. Bioware really let the stage down with DA2. DAO was amazing. DA2 a serious let down after that. At least Bethany/Carver can survive somehow or another even if we don't get to know them more after Act 1. Also, how much emotional crap can Hawke take without going nuts? His home is destroyed by darkspawn. One of his siblings dies at the beginning. Another one either dies or is taken away from him with no warning whatsoever. His uncle is a grumbling, wasteful muppet and then... his poor mother! The person who wrote this storyline is a nutter.

[Pjlarochelle]

Ya know what who cares about loosing Bethany I just want Sandal as a useable Mage. You don't know exactly what happened all you know is that when ever he's off on his own you find him surrounded by dead bodies covered in blood. "ENCHANTMENT!!"
Got to love that useful little ****** he's a magical rainman.

[Rifneno]

The necromancy school is overpowered.  Nerf please. 

[Hi-Q]

*DA2/MF2 spoiler warning*

I just reached that point of the game yesterday night; I was so surprised with Beth's death... It reminded me of losing my crew during the MF2 intro.

I think I liked Bethany as much as Liara from MF1, they both boast an innocent, unconditional and yet well-based trust on the main character only tied with their capability & skills, that made them unique in nowadays gaming. However, their dramatic demeanor-change into virtually anguish-filled beings after being separated from the main role let them alienated.

I would not like -at all- to repeat this story of "I wanna have such character in my team again, 'coz it was sooo cool" Nay. It may have worked once (MF2 Liara & Wrex), but it would be boring to rely again on "that" further and rather ephemeral involvement of such characters for the rest of the story and "that" "potential chance of return” tied with a main role on the next game.

Conclusion, I bid farewell to Bethany.

And, I am very certain that there's going to be new characters in the future arc, I'll give them a chance instead. Who knows? Maybe we shall have one of those unseen female Qunari in our teams.

[Stoomkal]

mikx82 wrote...

true_blue wrote...

what the f*ck i dont believe this... why would they remove her from the party?? She was my favourite companion and I took her on EVERY quest for nothing. I expect there will be/is addons that put her back in your party but ffs its just not the same. Why put her on the party selection with a new outfit if she is not playable anymore?? And how do you get the items back from her??
Bleh don't even feel like carrying on with the game anymore now.. bad enough the game was watered and dumbed down and turned into console junk to suit the retards but this just tops it for me. Grats bioware.

Someone smack this b*sh up. I, for one, am both a console and PC gamer and right now I chose to play DA2 on my console. I, for one, do agree that they had, to an extent, dumbed down, streamlined, simplified or whatever you may want to call it, the game we all so loved. I, for one, find it sad that you're gona lose Bethany which is my favorite companion as well. Alot has been changed from Origins, some are bad, some are good, but I love the lore and the franchise so i'm giving this game a chance to win my heart. BUT to call console gamers RETARDS?? that sir, madame.. or maybe i should just call you BOY, or KID is just plain ignorant. go cry to your mommy since Bioware didnt give you what you want. Go suck on your thumb and wet your bed since you cant handle your seperation anxiety. Bioware had a story in mind and they wanted to tell it this way - and everybody knows everybody cant please everybody. I applaud Bioware for the effort. As for you, KID, grow up and dont post anything ignorant until you do.


@Bioware - pardon me for the outburst. I am aware that what i've written here might be against some of the rules here in the forum but I had to let this KID know that ignorance toward other people shouldnt be tolerated. If you do so wish, delete this response or let me know, i can do it myself..

woah...

So... let me get this right... in order to discipline this person's anti-social behavior, you advise to "smack this bish up"...

I have that right?  

I think you should be careful how you criticise anybody for anything if this is the kind of behavior you are promoting... 

I do not believe she promoted violence against anybody.

Have a think