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#26
B3taMaxxx

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Revelo wrote...

B3taMaxxx wrote...

Have you guys tried reverting to a previous save?


What do you think I am doing at the moment?


 Consuming crumpets and tea?

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B3taMaxxx wrote...

Revelo wrote...

B3taMaxxx wrote...

Have you guys tried reverting to a previous save?


What do you think I am doing at the moment?


 Consuming crumpets and tea?


How do you know what I eat for breakfast? :innocent:

And no, reloading has not worked :pinched: and discovering a few more bugs which ruining the experience is enough cause for me to abandon this game untill the patches come through...

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That sucks, and is a pretty bad bug. I don't see how it couldn't ruin a romance option with her, plus disable you from doing any of the companion quest. Which of course means less loot, xp and immersion.

Modifié par B3taMaxxx, 14 mars 2011 - 11:45 .


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B3taMaxxx wrote...

That sucks, and is a pretty bad bug. I don't see how it couldn't ruin a romance option with her, plus disable you from doing any of the companion quest. Which of course means less loot, xp and immersion.


While the romance would be nice, i don't want to play something thats unfinished and doesn't let me do everything avaliable because of bugs that should easily have been spotted and fixed in development.

One thing I like about Bioware games is how asking around and doing everything avaliable reaps it's own reward, it's disappointing to see such a lack of attention has gone into the game at points.

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Hey, did any of you guys also import a save from a Warden that had completed Witch Hunt? Because I did, and I think that might have something to do with it. I'm not a programmer, but maybe there was a mistake in the code where it mistook something to do with the Varterral/Eluviaan in that for the ones you encounter in Merrill's companion quest?

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zvbxrpl wrote...

Hey, did any of you guys also import a save from a Warden that had completed Witch Hunt? Because I did, and I think that might have something to do with it. I'm not a programmer, but maybe there was a mistake in the code where it mistook something to do with the Varterral/Eluviaan in that for the ones you encounter in Merrill's companion quest?


Yes I did import a character using Witch Hunt...bah...well time to go see if a non-witch hunt import causes it.

Edit:

Did you receive both Amaranthine Conspirators and Secret Rondezvous as well?

Asked some of my friends who had imported from Witch Hunt, and they didn't have any problems, so I guess that's out as a hypothesis.

Modifié par Myrkale, 15 mars 2011 - 06:50 .


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Just secret rendezvous, unless I'm forgetting "amaranthine conspirators."

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I never played Witch Hunt and Merril's quest "Mourning" is glitched as completed for me. It sucks, I hear her storyline is pretty good too.

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zvbxrpl wrote...

Hey, did any of you guys also import a save from a Warden that had completed Witch Hunt? Because I did, and I think that might have something to do with it. I'm not a programmer, but maybe there was a mistake in the code where it mistook something to do with the Varterral/Eluviaan in that for the ones you encounter in Merrill's companion quest?


My import save did not include Witch Hunt, used an Ultimate Sacrifice import, which ended there, didn't play awakening or anything after with it, still have the autocomplete bug. :( Reloaded save like 10 times with the same result, replayed the whole first act with the same result, and finally just said skip it and popped in another game. I'll come back when they get their game together and let me mourn with my future video game girlfriend.

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zvbxrpl wrote...

Just secret rendezvous, unless I'm forgetting "amaranthine conspirators."


Well it's a seperate issue, but you're only supposed to receive one of the quests.

I wonder if it might be caused by talking to Merrill after completing Blackpowder Promise,  The Wayward Son, or The Unbidden Rescue which triggers a conversation quest called Nice Crime You Have Here with Merrill.

Although I'd have to check with people that have done that quest and do not have the bug to be sure.

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I did do the Nice Crime You Have Here quest. But like you said, we'd have to check for falsifying reports to be sure, especially since conversation quests are something most players do.

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Well it seems to have something to do with importing a save from Origins, not sure what exactly. The quest doesn't show up as finished if I don't use one of my imported saves.

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I had the same bug with her at the start of act 3 on my last play through but it does reset partially through the act after meeting with a character from Origins.

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I had the same exact issues on my first play through. On my second one now and no glitch this time, I'm thinking that if you have Merrill's Friendship/rivalry past a certain threshold it causes this glitch. gonna test this a little more though.

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xK1LLxJ0Yx wrote...

I had the same exact issues on my first play through. On my second one now and no glitch this time, I'm thinking that if you have Merrill's Friendship/rivalry past a certain threshold it causes this glitch. gonna test this a little more though.


Add: First time around the glitch occured without an origins upload. On this second play through is an origins upload but no glitch so i dont think that is the issue. Im leaning heavily towards the advancing her Friendship/Rivalry level past a certain point too early. Like i previously stated im gonna test this a little bit though on my third playthrough. Ill update asap.

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xK1LLxJ0Yx wrote...

xK1LLxJ0Yx wrote...

I had the same exact issues on my first play through. On my second one now and no glitch this time, I'm thinking that if you have Merrill's Friendship/rivalry past a certain threshold it causes this glitch. gonna test this a little more though.


Add: First time around the glitch occured without an origins upload. On this second play through is an origins upload but no glitch so i dont think that is the issue. Im leaning heavily towards the advancing her Friendship/Rivalry level past a certain point too early. Like i previously stated im gonna test this a little bit though on my third playthrough. Ill update asap.


Bah! And there goes my hypothesis again!! I did at one time think that it had something to do with advancing her friendship/rivalry to far, but I don't really see why it would only effect her if that was the case.

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I'm getting the Merrill out of order quest issue too. Right at the beginning of Act 3, when I go to do the "A talking to" quest for her, she talks about Marathari being dead. I've made a new character in the meantime to mess around with until a patch comes around that hopefully corrects the whole Merrill out of order scene thing.

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Can you check your friend/rivalry rating?

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xK1LLxJ0Yx wrote...

Can you check your friend/rivalry rating?


 Correction: Can you remember what it was at when you got that act?

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xK1LLxJ0Yx wrote...

xK1LLxJ0Yx wrote...

Can you check your friend/rivalry rating?


 Correction: Can you remember what it was at when you got that act?


Yes, I maxed out her friendship way before the end of Act 2. So that seems to contribute to the issue.

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I romanced her VERY early, but still after Isabella. However- her mirror has since vanished- and no words nor quests were shown as to why? SONS-A-BEETCH!!!!!!

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Okay, after quitting my first play-through due to the Isabella slow glitch, I am now in the middle of Act II again.  Despite my fears and expectations, this time my Merrill quests and relationship are working without any problems.  If anyone would like to know what I did, here is a breakdown of events I suspect may have affected Merrill's companion and romance quests.  Oh, and please note that here there be SPOILERS.

During my first play through I made romancing Merrill a high priority.  I took her everywhere and chose all flirt or positive responses.  By the time the Deep Roads came along Merrill was at or just under 50% Friendship already.  I took Bethany and Anders into the Deep Roads and made Bethany a Grey Warden.  Upon returning, the Merrill Consoling Words quest was marked complete already, which seems to signal the beginning of the Merrill glitch.  I continued wooing her and soon enough she was moving into the Hawke Estate.  I got the romance scene, but many of the secondary indicators of the romance never appeared- these should include dialog such as Isabella warning me to be good to Merrill and Mother commenting about how she's noticed the way Hawke and Merrill look at one another,  This seemed to indicate the romance wasn't flagging correctly.  Come Act III I saw the "She's dead!!!" scene out of order and her final companion quest was broken.

During my second play through I decided to try Rivalmancing Merrill and take things very slowly.  I left her at home most of the time and by the end of Act I, I had only triggered a single +5 rivalry increase.  This time I took Merrill and Anders into the Deep Roads.  Bethany went to The Circle and this time Consoling Words showed up and I was able to see it through.  I finished Mirror Mirror, maxing out my Rivalry with Merrill in the process.  Her romance scene proceeded as before, but this time, after leaving the bedroom, Mother commented to Hawke about the way she and "her elf" look at one another, and how it makes her want to remarry.  

That's as far as I've gotten tonight, but things seem to be working correctly so far.  All the problems seem to begin with either Consoling Words or Mourning not triggering.  I am anxious to find out if Merrill's companion quest in Act III works correctly this time.  If so,I suspect  the key may be either keeing Merrill's Friendship/Rivalry somewhere in the the neutral zone during Act I or possibly taking Merrill into the Deep Roads with Hawke. 

Hope this helps.

Modifié par halokitty, 23 mars 2011 - 06:48 .


#48
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This needs to be fixed, i've stopped my current playthrough (In which i had to restart due to ANOTHER bug) because of this bug, i really want Merrill's quest line to work properly. It's been two weeks for god sake, these should've been fixed by now.

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Until patch it seems like leaving her alone till about midway through Act 2 is the best way to avoid the glitch. Product of a rushed game sadly D:

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Well, crap. I took her along as my main offensive mage for most of my quests, and everything I did was +5 friendship here, +10 friendship there. So unless I redo my party build and start over from a really early save, I'm stuck.

Guess I'm waiting for the patch...