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Dragon Age 2: Bioware's Waterloo?


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That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html
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I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.

Modifié par Sparafucil, 10 mars 2011 - 06:05 .


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...a negative review from a website called "video games suck."

Who would have guessed?

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And I suspect that VGS paid you to post this here.

Conspiracy theories are fun.

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If Geralt is Napoleon, then yes.

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HOW COULD I EVER REFUSE

I FEEL LIKE I WIN WHEN I LOOOOOOOOOOSE

WATERLOO
I WAS DEFEATED, YOU WON THE WAR
WATERLOO
PROMISE TO LOVE YOU FOREVER MORE
WATERLOO
COULDN'T ESCAPE IF I WANTED TO
WATERLOO
KNOWING MY FATE IS TO BE WITH YOU
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH
WATERLOO
FINALLY FACING MY WATERLOO

Modifié par Carlsbad, 10 mars 2011 - 05:51 .


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Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html

I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.


That website is a joke. 0/10 is an absurd score, and the writer was probably 12.

Modifié par chunkyman, 10 mars 2011 - 05:56 .


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Waterloo's a terrible metaphor here. If you really want to stick with Napoleon, try Borodino. Unless you're an ME 2 hater, in which case ME2 is Borodino, which might make DA2.... Leipzig?

As for the substance, I thought ME2 was about as polarizing, and the NWN1 OC went over a bit worse.

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Wow, that was the worst review I have ever read. I dont think many games deserve a 0, especially this one...

I thik that someone was a little bias when reviewing...

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I would say more like custers last stand.


 This review is win! makes me laugh so hard.

Modifié par Cobrawar, 10 mars 2011 - 06:04 .


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 "Dragon Age: Origins was one of the best games ever created with full-scale castles, awesome tactical combat, excellent dialog and some of the best writing seen in any video games."

No need to read beyond this point...

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I am shocked and appalled.

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As with all posted reviews, folks, you can agree with it or disagree with it all you like. Just keep in mind the posted forum rules when responding to reviews here. THank you.

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chunkyman wrote...

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html

I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.


That website is a joke. 0/10 is an absurd score, and the writer was probably 12.


No less absurd than the perfect 100 score The Escapist gave it. :?

In this age of score inflation where every game gets 9/10 or 10/10s, 8/10 is considered average, and anything less than 7/10 poor, its refreshing to see a score based on a grade scale that aligns more or less along a normal distribution. If a game is terrible (and clearly the reviewer thinks it is) why shouldn't it get a 0? Anyway the score is the least important part of a review and I wish people would stop attaching so much meaning to it.

Modifié par Sparafucil, 10 mars 2011 - 06:09 .


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You're right, the score is the least important aspect. I think we should focus more on the immaturity of the reviewer himself.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 10 mars 2011 - 06:15 .


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Zero means the game couldn't possibly be worse. Did the reviewer mean that?

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Sparafucil wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html

I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.


That website is a joke. 0/10 is an absurd score, and the writer was probably 12.


No less absurd than the perfect 100 score The Escapist gave it. :?

In this age of score inflation where every game gets 9/10 or 10/10s, 8/10 is considered average, and anything less than 7/10 poor, its refreshing to see a score based on a grade scale that aligns more or less along a normal distribution. If a game is terrible (and clearly the reviewer thinks it is) why shouldn't it get a 0? Anyway the score is the least important part of a review and I wish people would stop attaching so much meaning to it.


Lets see here... Almost perfect ranking for the previous DA? check
Calling DAO story "perfect?" Check.
Give DA2 a terrible score. (Beyond terrible. A freaking 0.) check

Look not liking DA2 is great. But a 0 out of ten? That not only ignore the several GOOD things the game has brought about, but absolutely tramples their credibiliity down to simple fanboyism. The score is important in this instance, as it was set to send a message by VGS. No game deserves a 0/10. Why? Because that means its not even a game!

DA2 and Bioware are not immune to criticism. This isn't criticism though, not even close.

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No I dont think its Bioware's waterloo

I think its the waterloo of the greedy make games for everyone so we get the most market share theory

You CAN NOT PLEASE everyone

Make an RPG or make an Action game

You can not do both

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Nashiktal wrote...

Sparafucil wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html

I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.


That website is a joke. 0/10 is an absurd score, and the writer was probably 12.


No less absurd than the perfect 100 score The Escapist gave it. :?

In this age of score inflation where every game gets 9/10 or 10/10s, 8/10 is considered average, and anything less than 7/10 poor, its refreshing to see a score based on a grade scale that aligns more or less along a normal distribution. If a game is terrible (and clearly the reviewer thinks it is) why shouldn't it get a 0? Anyway the score is the least important part of a review and I wish people would stop attaching so much meaning to it.


Lets see here... Almost perfect ranking for the previous DA? check
Calling DAO story "perfect?" Check.
Give DA2 a terrible score. (Beyond terrible. A freaking 0.) check

Look not liking DA2 is great. But a 0 out of ten? That not only ignore the several GOOD things the game has brought about, but absolutely tramples their credibiliity down to simple fanboyism. The score is important in this instance, as it was set to send a message by VGS. No game deserves a 0/10. Why? Because that means its not even a game!

DA2 and Bioware are not immune to criticism. This isn't criticism though, not even close.


I've only played the demo, so I can't comment on the final game, but there was absolutely nothing in the demo that I saw that was the slightest bit an improvement on DA:O. Perhaps the demo was merely a weird anomaly. 

What do you think is good about DA2?

Modifié par Sparafucil, 10 mars 2011 - 06:22 .


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Sparafucil wrote...

No less absurd than the perfect 100 score The Escapist gave it. :?


I realise that I'm nitpicking, but the Escapist did not score Dragon Age 2 at 100.  It scored it at 5 stars out of 5.  I know that it sounds like semantics, but it's not.  Metacritic has been heavily criticized for changing all scores to a % out of 100.

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Maybe he likes DA2 because he's played more than just the demo.

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I agree that the graphics were pretty crappy but I found the story to be far better than Origins I was alot more involved and party members actually interacted with eachother more instead of them sitting in the corner of a camp all the time.

and once you get to the end you will see how DAO and DA2 tie in together

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Dirty old river, must you keep rolling
Flowing into the night

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That review was terrible.

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That review was so funny but true i mean good god what did bioware do how could they somehow ruin such a great game before it. its like they tried to make it awful

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Memodown wrote...

That review was terrible.


Interesting. Why don't you give us your profound in-depth review of their review?
:P