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[Zepplin_Rules]

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 10 mars 2011 - 07:03 .

[i love fire]

Hes been really all over everyone who speaks bad of dragon age 2 if i was a mod i would have said woah im done after that game

[VanDraegon]

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html
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I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.

That website and review is a joke.  Written like a teenage twitch fanatic. You must not have been around these forums last year when lots of sour gamers were forcasting the death and doom of Bioware because of DA:O. It was exactly the same.

[Sparafucil]

VanDraegon wrote...

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html
[language warning]

I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.

That website and review is a joke.  Written like a teenage twitch fanatic. You must not have been around these forums last year when lots of sour gamers were forcasting the death and doom of Bioware because of DA:O. It was exactly the same.

Don't fed me that BS. I registered when DA:O was released and have been been reading the Bioware forums since NWN1. If you step outside of your echo chamber and look at other gaming forums and sites you'd see the response to DA2 has been massively more negative than Origins. The only outrage pertaining to DAO stemmed from the heavy-handed way BW integrated DLC into Origins--a far cry from the complaints DA2 has generated over nearly every change made to the gameplay.

Modifié par Sparafucil, 10 mars 2011 - 07:23 .

[Xaltar81]

I give DA2 no more than a 3/10 and that is being generous. It has so drasticly moved away from the original game that I frankly feel offended that they tried to palm this off on me as a sequal. Yes, my opinion is simply that but I do feel that within the genre this is a huge letdown. Sure, technicaly I could not justify a 0/10, there are much worse overall games out there but and this is a big but, there is nothing that could have made this game any worse for me as a fan of DA:O and Bioware as a whole. I have already stopped playing it and I will not be going back to it. I didn't even finish the game I was so disgusted with what I found. So as a game I wuold play and recomend to other like minded people? 0/10.

I posted a review of my own on page 25 of the official feedback thread. While the review linked above is clearly immature in a lot of ways it does portray a lot of the outrage currently felt by a large number of fans. DA2 was like going to an Iron Maiden concert only to be informed that Madona will be performing instead. Not a huge deal if you like Madona but infuriating to those who do not.

[ThorodinHawke]

A reviewer that abosolutely worse than IGN amazing (well usually their reviews are sub par)

i give it 9.5 or more. Its a imrpovement gameplay wise. still going through story so i haven't decided one that yet.

Modifié par ThorodinHawke, 10 mars 2011 - 07:21 .

[Massadonious1]

Sparafucil wrote...

Memodown wrote...

That review was terrible.

Interesting. Why don't you give us your profound in-depth review of their review?

In summation, "F-this, f-that, this is for retards. HERP DERP."

That about sum it up?

[ThorodinHawke]

Sums it up nicely

[Sparafucil]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Sparafucil wrote...

Memodown wrote...

That review was terrible.

Interesting. Why don't you give us your profound in-depth review of their review?

In summation, "F-this, f-that, this is for retards. HERP DERP."

That about sum it up?

Brilliant. You should apply to work for the New Yorker with such insightful analysis.

[Massadonious1]

Or I could work for VGS.

[Sparafucil]

I certainly would love to read your work.

[AlanC9]

Sparafucil wrote...
 I registered when DA:O was released and have been been reading the Bioware forums since NWN1. If you step outside of your echo chamber and look at other gaming forums and sites you'd see the response to DA2 has been massively more negative than Origins. The only outrage pertaining to DAO stemmed from the heavy-handed way BW integrated DLC into Origins--a far cry from the complaints DA2 has generated over nearly every change made to the gameplay.

So DA2's getting a worse response than DAO? Sure.

You really think this is that much worse than ME2 and the NWN1 OC? You were here for those too.

[Loc'n'lol]

I'm sorry but I'll repeat the words of Memodown : this review is terrible. Horrible. I wish I could unread it. There's simply no way to take it seriously and it's not even funny...

[casedawgz]

Based on Call of Duty, huh? Move along, people. Nothing to see here.

[Aspar_Hruk]

The review is filled with rage and rude language but its game points are actually completely valid, which only shows how disgusted and offended some ppl feel about the game and the let down by Bioware.
Yes, the game is VERY uninteresting. Yes it has shallow and hollow story that doesn't connect. Yes it has uninteresting and bland characters. Yes it is 1 zone (city) which is all gray and brown and is non interactive, feels dead and hollow and you walk like in a corridor all the time.
It has 2-3 repeating dungeons and you kill a dragon on the second quest? WTF??? I killed a dragon still wearing stupid simple sword and being only lvl 6. That is EPIC...wait...what?
You go and do random side quest all the time, without real story, dialog is extremely stupid and empty at times, feels like you are in some cheap movie or something 3rd grade...
Actually i felt like the more i play the game, contrary on the hope i would like it with time, it gets worse.
I start seeing the truth, the game is made by 3-4-th grade team at Bioware and is released as a "****, whatever, just release it, slap some dlc, the retards will buy it anyway because we will use our name to lure them into this garbage, who cares, we need the money, and no, we can't give you some of our good writers, coders etc, they are working on that milk cow we hope to be the MMORPG.".
And honestly, stop being blind and call this conspiracy vs Bioware. I don't remember seeing a so loved developer get smacked so hard after a so long waited release of a game, that had a magnificent start and was loved by the community. Clearly, Bioware and DA2 deserve this ****storm.

[FedericoV]

Sparafucil wrote...

If you step outside of your echo chamber and look at other gaming forums and sites you'd see the response to DA2 has been massively more negative than Origins. The only outrage pertaining to DAO stemmed from the heavy-handed way BW integrated DLC into Origins--a far cry from the complaints DA2 has generated over nearly every change made to the gameplay.

Don't fed me that bull****.

The outrage pertaining DA:O regarded EVERYTHING. From difficulty, to bugs, to consolle problems, to combat, to being dumbed down for consolle. Just like DA2 some critic were legitimate and the other were not. The game received a mixed response here and elsewhere only that people allways remember the past with rose colored glasses. DA:O was not THAT popular and many people called it BORING, CLICHED AND TOO GENERALISTIC. 

I agree, the volume of outrage for DA2 is more. But that has more to do with the franchise and the developer house general popularity after the success of ME2, of the and the polirizing effect of platform wars caues by some deve choices and by the critical expectations that DA2 would be the ME2 of fantasy games, than the quality of the game. I have read just a 10% of constructive criticism coming from the fans.

As I've said in another post, for everyone who is acting like he's happy that DA2 is not going so well in terms of critical reception, I think that they are speaking too soon. Sales will decide if DA2 is a failure or not.

Modifié par FedericoV, 10 mars 2011 - 08:08 .

[Quionic]

I kind of agree with some of the things the reviewer said.

[Biefstukfriet]

I really wish next time USA and EU release dates are the same. Everyone is tearing the game a new one. I'm negatively biased to DAII and I haven't even held the DVD case in my hands yet. It's disconcerting

[TerribleTruth]

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

I suspect you're a moron.

[Savber100]

Bioware's Waterloo? No... If this was Waterloo, it means that Bioware is doomed and that this game is the whimper before the kill. It's ONLY Bioware's Waterloo if they refuse to listen to feedback and continue to streamline their games.

No, my fellow Bioware fans, ME3 will be THE battle of whether Bioware listens to their fans or not. We shall see.

[Bhatair]

"VASTLY unique different looking armors we were offered in Dragon Age Origins."

HAHAHA hahaha.
aahahaha... ha haha.

Ok, look. Origins might be one of my favorite games of all time, but I stopped reading after I hit this gem. Unless it was DLC, every piece of armor was copy/paste, not to mention the ugly as sin helmets. At least I've noticed a little variation in DA II. (not to mention companions who wear unique armor, you know that thing everyone is complaining about. At least it keeps my rogues from running around wearing matching leather football pads and miniskirts.)

Modifié par Bhatair, 10 mars 2011 - 08:44 .

[Bhatair]

Biefstukfriet wrote...

I really wish next time USA and EU release dates are the same. Everyone is tearing the game a new one. I'm negatively biased to DAII and I haven't even held the DVD case in my hands yet. It's disconcerting

Stay off the forums until you play the game for yourself is my advice. I hadn't even looked at these forums since the initial annoucement was made and I'm having a blast with the game.

[Aspar_Hruk]

Savber100 wrote...

Bioware's Waterloo? No... If this was Waterloo, it means that Bioware is doomed and that this game is the whimper before the kill. It's ONLY Bioware's Waterloo if they refuse to listen to feedback and continue to streamline their games.

No, my fellow Bioware fans, ME3 will be THE battle of whether Bioware listens to their fans or not. We shall see.

You are right, It could be ME3 that's the final decider if Bioware still has it in there or has turned in a completely different company.
But what will make or brake Bioware is their MMORPG. If it is success, we might not see any other single player RPG from Bioware in looong time as they may turn into a MMORPG only company. If it fails though, i suspect Bioware will seize to exist.

[HTTP 404]

All this time I thought DA2 was a pretty good game.  But thank the maker, the OP just shed some light on how wrong and blind I was.  I read that glorious review and it really open my eyes to how bad DA2 really is.  few things the article did to open my eyeS about DA2!

1.  I had no idea the graphics were crap until that review told me they were!

2.  Ah yes shuffling animations in DA:O were sooo much better

3.   was dumb now I am smart again: combat is dumb in DA2!

4.  Oh yah, I miss that wood interface in DA:O! made me feel like an elf which I couldnt be in DA2.  I forgot all about that!  that was the best looking interface evaar

5.  I learned that I never interacted with anything!

6.  the author and I have both excremented much more entertainingly than playing the game!

Everyone should thank the OP for such a delightful piece of literature!  Didnt think my opinion would be changed because of a little article!

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Every new game gets slammed. ME was a ''terrible RPG for consoles'' when it came out... and ME2 ''took a great RPG like ME and ruined all the grand RPG elements''.