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[Scorpgul]

I just read the review and OMG THE GUY HAS NAILED IT!!! I suggest everyone reads the review. It is hilarious but spot on!

http://www.videogame.../review437.html

[Sparafucil]

GreyLord wrote...

infalible wrote...

 "Dragon Age: Origins was one of the best games ever created with full-scale castles, awesome tactical combat, excellent dialog and some of the best writing seen in any video games.[/u][u]"

No need to read beyond this point...

I saw that at the beginning of the article, and my eyes rolled as well...

I think I'll give some no name reviewers more credit after that intro.

I'd like to know what contemporary games you think had better writing or dialogue...

Yes, much of the story of DA:O was your standard run-of-the-mill high fantasy with elves and dwarves and some evil menace threatening to destroy a picturesque feudal kingdom, but, if you look past the surface story, some of the writing for the quests and sub-plots was quite inspired: the characterization of Loghain was far more complex than your typical video game villain. And if you didn't bother to read most of the Codex entries you missed some of the best writing in the game.

Modifié par Sparafucil, 10 mars 2011 - 09:29 .

[Dannybare]

If someone gives a game a 0/10 I find it very hard to trust as it assumes that the game has no redeeming qualities, I would even give Big Rigs over the raod racing a few points because of how much of a laugh I get out of it similiary I don't realy trust reviews saying 10/10 becuase it implies the game is perfect and it cannot be improved on.

[Morrigans God son]

Scorpgul wrote...

I just read the review and OMG THE GUY HAS NAILED IT!!! I suggest everyone reads the review. It is hilarious but spot on!

http://www.videogame.../review437.html

He got it spot on.

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Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

Good reviews and sales mean nothing. Its about respect from gamers. And you can't walk into a single gaming forum without seeing a thread on how much DAII sucked (ESPECIALLY /v/).

And DAII got sales because it was medieval, which attracts a big fanbase. Assassin's Creed 1 sold quickly for the same reason.

what is this post I just read?  is this a mad lib?  

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Morrigans God son wrote...

Scorpgul wrote...

I just read the review and OMG THE GUY HAS NAILED IT!!! I suggest everyone reads the review. It is hilarious but spot on!

http://www.videogame.../review437.html

He got it spot on.

yes its quite a piece of art. 

[Athro]

infalible wrote...

 "Dragon Age: Origins was one of the best games ever created with full-scale castles, awesome tactical combat, excellent dialog and some of the best writing seen in any video games."

No need to read beyond this point...

I know, right?

What the hell is up with this rose-tinted memory of DA:O. The writing was good in parts, but as an overall game it was sleep-inducingly generic. Full-scale castles? I never saw any. Heck, Warden's Keep gets locked out after one play through. I've seen much better writing in Mass Effect. It's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination, but DA:O was, at best, an 8.5/10 in my opinion and I'm sick of this "It was the best thing evah and you killed it" argument that I've been seeing around these forums.  I get it - some people prefered DA:O over DA2. That's cool. DA2 is different and it isn't anything like DA:O in regards to scope or style. But that doesn't make it lesser. It makes it different. Personally, I'm loving it more than DA:O. A friend of mine loves DA:O more than DA2. But you don't see either of us trying to strangle each other for not liking the game we like. Gah!  I just don't see how the level of hostility on these forums is any way justified. I've known what DA2 was going to be like from day one. Bioware have been upfront every step of the way.

[Gaiseric82]

Buffy-Summers wrote...

No I dont think its Bioware's waterloo

I think its the waterloo of the greedy make games for everyone so we get the most market share theory

You CAN NOT PLEASE everyone

Make an RPG or make an Action game

You can not do both

This x 1000^5.

[Athro]

Gaiseric82 wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

No I dont think its Bioware's waterloo

I think its the waterloo of the greedy make games for everyone so we get the most market share theory

You CAN NOT PLEASE everyone

Make an RPG or make an Action game

You can not do both

This x 1000^5.

Um - I take it then that you haven't played Oblivion, Morrowind, Fable, Fable 2, Fable 3, Divinity 2, Gothic, Risen, Mass Effect...

Action RPGs are very common and very popular. I think DA2 is an example of a game where some people felt entitled to drag it down because it wasn't the game they wanted despite it never promising it would be.

Seriously, this kind of ill-informed statement really annoys me. It's fine to not like the game. It's fine to wish it had been DA:O - but to try to say it is a product of greed and stupidity is going too far. There are plenty of people who like both DA:O and DA2 and we're happy. I prefer DA2 over DA:O, but I still like them both. And I, for one, am sick of this kind of false accusation. It's unreasonable and has no foundation in fact.

C

[Painronamic]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

If Geralt is Napoleon, then yes.

I like your thinking my friend XD!

[Painronamic]

Athro wrote...

infalible wrote...

 "Dragon Age: Origins was one of the best games ever created with full-scale castles, awesome tactical combat, excellent dialog and some of the best writing seen in any video games."

No need to read beyond this point...

I know, right?

What the hell is up with this rose-tinted memory of DA:O. The writing was good in parts, but as an overall game it was sleep-inducingly generic. Full-scale castles? I never saw any. Heck, Warden's Keep gets locked out after one play through. I've seen much better writing in Mass Effect. It's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination, but DA:O was, at best, an 8.5/10 in my opinion and I'm sick of this "It was the best thing evah and you killed it" argument that I've been seeing around these forums.  I get it - some people prefered DA:O over DA2. That's cool. DA2 is different and it isn't anything like DA:O in regards to scope or style. But that doesn't make it lesser. It makes it different. Personally, I'm loving it more than DA:O. A friend of mine loves DA:O more than DA2. But you don't see either of us trying to strangle each other for not liking the game we like. Gah!  I just don't see how the level of hostility on these forums is any way justified. I've known what DA2 was going to be like from day one. Bioware have been upfront every step of the way.

If only the bit where you say they were being upfront about it was true.  They were telling fans NOT to worry as a public announcement.  You can still play tactically when there absolutely isn't a need to...and trying to play tactically is not rewarded with the annoying locked in camera.  I could go on and on but I doubt Bioware listened to any constructive feedback from the 1st game.  Let me ask one question was Halo 2 like Halo 1? The core mechanics STAYED.  Was Halo 3 like Halo 2 or Halo 1? YES the core mechanics STAYED...

DA 2 is nothing like DA 1...the core mechanics have STRAYED...

[konokonohamaru]

Stupid review is stupid.

But is DA2 Bioware's waterloo? It could be. It's the worst Bioware game I've ever played. I'm still looking forward to ME3, but after that, I'm going to be very careful about what I buy from Bioware.

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[Athro]

Painronamic wrote...

If only the bit where you say they were being upfront about it was true.  They were telling fans NOT to worry as a public announcement.  You can still play tactically when there absolutely isn't a need to...and trying to play tactically is not rewarded with the annoying locked in camera.  I could go on and on but I doubt Bioware listened to any constructive feedback from the 1st game.  Let me ask one question was Halo 2 like Halo 1? The core mechanics STAYED.  Was Halo 3 like Halo 2 or Halo 1? YES the core mechanics STAYED...

DA 2 is nothing like DA 1...the core mechanics have STRAYED...

I have played both games and it isn't nearly as different as you claim it is. There is still the tactical play, you still have to run your whole party.

The system is an evolution of the DA:O system. It *is* more action focused - I agree - but the core system is exactly the same. The whole action RPG element is merely a veneer.

That may appeal to some, but not to others. Bioware did not lie, they were saying this from the first day - and we have been seeing example videos for some time.

The histrionics are not required.

C.

[nheath100]

As a huge fan of DAO, I can understand both sides of the argument. The environments in DA2 ARE lacking. It's also slightly more linear than I prefer. However, there are a lot of misconceptions being circulated about this game. First of all, it isn't THAT short. I'm at 30 hours and I'm just finishing act 2. It isn't as long as DAO obviously, but if you complete all of the side quests it's still a pretty meaty game. Second of all, someone above mentioned that you didn't need to use team tactics in this one like you did in the first. That's NOT true. It may be true on normal, but I hear that normal is WAY easier than hard and nightmare. If you feel that this game is lacking, turn up the difficulty. If you do this, suddenly team tactics matter, gear matters and the game becomes more enthralling.

[Dansayshi]

nheath100 wrote...

As a huge fan of DAO, I can understand both sides of the argument. The environments in DA2 ARE lacking. It's also slightly more linear than I prefer. However, there are a lot of misconceptions being circulated about this game. First of all, it isn't THAT short. I'm at 30 hours and I'm just finishing act 2. It isn't as long as DAO obviously, but if you complete all of the side quests it's still a pretty meaty game. Second of all, someone above mentioned that you didn't need to use team tactics in this one like you did in the first. That's NOT true. It may be true on normal, but I hear that normal is WAY easier than hard and nightmare. If you feel that this game is lacking, turn up the difficulty. If you do this, suddenly team tactics matter, gear matters and the game becomes more enthralling.

I turned it back down after Act 1. Why? The game just became incredibly repetitive. The recycled maps where garbage, and it was just made worse, by cramming as many enemies as they could into every area on it. The difficulty isnt really the issue for me.

[Getterray]

Stanley Woo wrote...

As with all posted reviews, folks, you can agree with it or disagree with it all you like. Just keep in mind the posted forum rules when responding to reviews here. THank you.

So the line keeps going?

[nheath100]

I'm not quite sure how turning the difficulty down would help the game seem less repetitive. I haven't played it on normal but I assumed the amount of enemies per fight would be the same, just tougher. Still I get your point. If your main issue with the game is with the environments then I guess there's not much you can do. Personally, I'm really enjoying this game.

[Balvale]

I expect sincerely that a website named 'videogamessuck' will offer me a purely unbiased assessment of video games.

In other news, conspiratorial assertations about game publishers and reviewers proven absolutely true. More at eleven.

[The_FenixV]

Sparafucil wrote...

That's the impression I'm getting from reading many of the first-hand responses on here and elsewhere. The latest review posted on VGS offers a counter-point to the often sycophantic and rose-tinted assessments written by many professional reviewers (who I suspect are in the pocket of EA):

www.videogamessuck.com/review437.html
[language warning]

I can't recall any previous Bioware game receiving such a polarizing reaction from the community. For the next DA installment, I only hope the devs learn from this experience and go back to the drawing board to look at what made DA:O such a phenomenally successful RPG.

Wow.... So the kid actually thinks it's credible to just cuss and do a review like that? All the things he wrote is not even credible. Either his parents didn't give him any attention or he just came from a bad family because really.. that review just made no sense with all the insults.