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[Insaner Robot]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Insaner Robot wrote...
Forgive my momentary loss of composure but after the wretched video game abortions that was the Baldur's gate dark alliance games. I don't want anybody other than Bioware or Obsidian to even consider another BG game. They are the only developers that worked on the original series, and the only ones I'd trust to do it right.

I don't understand the venom. It's not like Dark Alliance ever pretended to be Baldurs Gate. The game was set around Baldurs Gate so the name made sense.

Yes I agree, and like I said I hope people can forgive my temporary loss of composure.

But Interplay appear to have released it with the intention of coasting on the favourable memories of Bioware's BG series. They had the rights to develop/publish games set in the Forgotten Realms and that's a big place. They decided to set it in the Middle lands and in Baldur's Gate simply so they could title it as a Baldur's Gate game. In the processing suckering some consumers into purchasing it (myself included.... maybe that's where the bitterness comes from).

We already had games set in the middle and northern lands of Faerun, they could just as easily set in perhaps the southern lands and truly started their own series.

Again forgiveness if this comes across as overly harsh whilst it may have been my sentiment it was never truly my intention, hence the altered quote of Stewie from family guy "wretched culinary abortions".

[Aargh12]

Veracruz wrote...

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Thank you!

So they can make an action game with some loose RPG elements like Fallout?

Isn't that the type of game, that Bioware's been making since Mass Effect (with the exception of DA:O)?

[Surematt]

Hmm i would like old bioware, before EA ****ed it over... but yeah, if not Obsidian would be great. only if it was BUG TESTED BY A DIFFERENT COMPANY.

actually, let Obsidian make it, and Valve gameplay test it.

GOTYAY

[brunomalta]

NKKKK wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Fallout New Vegas had some good new gameplay mechanics and a somewhat better story. But Fallout 3 is more epic in every level.

No way man. Fallout 3 was very, very weak compared to New Vegas. The dialog was atrocious as the side quests were very lazy and boring. What about Fallout 3 is epic? That louzy giant robot?

Leaving the vault and staring down at the capital wasteland, it jsut had better "moments" than Vegas. Both good games, both have their faults.

Go back to NMA

I don´t agree with you. I think Fallout 3 was very lazy writing compared to New Vegas. Also, i visit NMA but i never posted there. To much angriness from their part lol....
It is just that i really disliked Fallout 3.

[Noir201]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

I would hope not. Bethesda can't write a proper story to save their lives. I hope Skyrim at least has a passable story.

Agree, while i totaly love Oblivion the story is awfull. Thanks to the magic of the mod community, i can't stop playing (and modding) Oblivion.

Added note : Big welcome back Kerridan my friend!!

[exskeeny]

don't Bethesada make the rpg's with ages long boring intro's. then the main quest is tiny but there's loads of frippery that you can run around wasting your time with?

I also seem to remember punching the crap out of someone in Fallout 3 and they just kept saying back to me, "you'll pay for that". PUNCH "I'll get you for that". And shooting the crap out of the daughter of the head of the vault and beating her to bits with a baseball bat but she just gets back up and stands there saying "keep away from me"

Yeah what a great developer they are.

[Syrellaris]

Bethesda has been proven to be a superior developer for Western RPG's just like Bioware has. There about the only 2 I'd trust with a game like Baldurs Gate 3, if there ever was going to be one.

btw electroban is a troll, just ignore him.

[brunomalta]

But sure you agree that after Morrowind, they have been declining?

[finc.loki]

I also hope that Bioware never make Baldurs gate 3, not because I think it would be bad, but just so YOU never ever get to play it again.

Fickle minded entitled bull talk is getting on my nerves.

[Kidd]

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Thank you!

I'd rather BG3 not throw any story line and NPCs out the window to give you a huge Faerûn to roam if it ever came out. My memories of BG are of great characters, a nice plot but mostly characters. Bethesda... I guess you could get a dog in Fallout 3? Does that count as a companion even though you can't really interact with it more than dog in DAO?

Even if BioWare made BG3 into ME2 with swords, I'd take that any day over Bethesda and their sterile and boring, slow gameplay.

*puts up flameshield*
(btw I love ME2 =))

[Khayness]

You can't make a Baldur's Gate by today's standards.

It would take 10 DvDs with all the voice acting and 3D stuff.

Besides, the licence...

[NKKKK]

exskeeny wrote...
mad mad mad

u mad

[Yojimboo]

The IP is owned by Wizard of the Coast anyway, if they don't green light it then it wont happen.

But why would Bioware use a 3rd party IP when they made their own Story with Dragon Age.

[JamesMoriarty123]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Depending on how things with DS turn out. Obsidian is my first choice for Baldurs Gate 3.

DS3 to one click or not to one click that is the question.

OMG...If Obsidian were outsourced to develop a Baldur's Gate sequel I would stalk their office and execute every single employee via double-tap to the face.

They RUIN games. Always buggy, always overly convoluted, always a worse storyline and always shoddier gameplay than their Bioware developed forebears.

Screw Obsidian, right in the ear.

[Chromie]

NKKKK wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Fallout New Vegas had some good new gameplay mechanics and a somewhat better story. But Fallout 3 is more epic in every level.

No way man. Fallout 3 was very, very weak compared to New Vegas. The dialog was atrocious as the side quests were very lazy and boring. What about Fallout 3 is epic? That louzy giant robot?

Leaving the vault and staring down at the capital wasteland, it jsut had better "moments" than Vegas. Both good games, both have their faults.

Go back to NMA

*Yawn* Fallout 1 and 2 beat both 3 and New Vegas in terms of everything

[vortexdr]

Barbosa wrote...

nisallik wrote...

How could anyone want Bethesda to touch the Baldur's Gate series...

I wouldn't mind Obsidian trying to make a sequel, but my first choice would be BioWare.

Not trying to jump into Bethesda's defence but they have a very professional approach to whatever they do, and when they do it, they do it better.
Ok, they're not good with story telling but they just have to give a job to David Geider... 

Meh disagree. Only one I would like to see try is Obsidian.... Let me all remind you that Bethesda was the one resonsible for ruining fallout. For people that didnt play the originals perhaps the new ones were okay but for true fans of the series it was a huge letdown.

Besides from what I have seen with DA2, the genre is all but dead now that bioware also abbondened fans of the genre

R.I.P sigh

[Drake Sigar]

Nah, give it to Obsidian. Their games may be buggy, but they're memorable. Alpha Protocol is the best stealth game since Metal Gear Solid.

[Lehanna]

Giving Baldur's Gate to Bethesda would be like giving a puppy to a retarded child knowing full well it already killed one.

That first puppy was Fallout.

[Seitur]

Khayness wrote...

You can't make a Baldur's Gate by today's standards.

It would take 10 DvDs with all the voice acting and 3D stuff.

Who need everything voice acted?

DA:Orgins sold mroe copies than ME2 and most of dialogues was NOT voiced. That's a fact.

IMHO voicing evverything in game makes harm only. It puts alot of resources and limits dialog options becasue how costly it is to voice act everything. Just imagine how many dialogue options you had in BG2 or Planescape. 7-8 was very frequent , over 10 was not so rare. Average dialogue amount in average npc conversation was at least 6-7 times as much as in DA2. Now costs to voice act everything. lol

No Imo NO to voice acting regular dialogue. Reserve it to more important cutscenes , chapters intoros /outros ,etc

This seems for me to an excuse to make less ccomlicated game. Imho DA2, ME2 arent made way they are only because they want to aply to casuals , it is simly becasue it is CHEAPER to produce it like that.

Besides, the licence...

Monex can fix everything.



And btw . If BG3 would be like DA2 , I would prefer to not have BG3 at all never.

Modifié par Seitur, 10 mars 2011 - 02:26 .

[AkiKishi]

vortexdr wrote...

Meh disagree. Only one I would like to see try is Obsidian.... Let me all remind you that Bethesda was the one resonsible for ruining fallout. For people that didnt play the originals perhaps the new ones were okay but for true fans of the series it was a huge letdown.

Besides from what I have seen with DA2, the genre is all but dead now that bioware also abbondened fans of the genre

R.I.P sigh

I liked the old Fallouts (never played them at time of release) and I like the new ones. NV marginally more than FO3. Bethesda seems to have gone with what they are good at but Obsidian has more of a feel for what the original FOs were , especially with the wasteland perk that changes the encounters.

[brunomalta]

Ringo12 wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Fallout New Vegas had some good new gameplay mechanics and a somewhat better story. But Fallout 3 is more epic in every level.

No way man. Fallout 3 was very, very weak compared to New Vegas. The dialog was atrocious as the side quests were very lazy and boring. What about Fallout 3 is epic? That louzy giant robot?

Leaving the vault and staring down at the capital wasteland, it jsut had better "moments" than Vegas. Both good games, both have their faults.

Go back to NMA

*Yawn* Fallout 1 and 2 beat both 3 and New Vegas in terms of everything

Sure. Fallout 2 is even in another league. It is my favorite RPG of all time. I was just comparing 3 and NV cause they are from CRAPthesda.

[jheise4321]

If Bethesda does Baldur's Gate 3 it was just be a first person game like Oblivion. In today's gaming market, Oblivion is a terrible game.

I agree with the poster above me.  Bethesda is horrible.  There is no depth to their games and the stories are written by a class of 3rd graders.  I am curious to see how they have Skyrim compete with other games.

Modifié par jheise4321, 10 mars 2011 - 02:33 .

[SolVita]

Sometimes I feel I’m the only person on the i-net who do not like Bethesda games. They just... I don’t know... feels like the MMORPG, only without other players. The game world is so boring and empty.

[element eater]

FedericoV wrote...

I do not think that Bioware holds any right on the BG franchise. I think that it is owned by Atari.

correct atari do own the rights and if i recall theres rumours that they are working on a D&D game most likely it wil be a new neverwinter game but it is possible that they might do a BG3 i guess. 

as for who id want to make BG3, well id say any attempt would fail so no one should make it.
but id say a collabiration if they did otherwise no one could pull it off

Modifié par element eater, 10 mars 2011 - 02:37 .

[electroban]

Maybe not Baldur's Gate 3, but something set in the sword coast or whatever universe that had the same scope in story as Baldurs Gate. I just wish they wudnt make sucky RPG games that arnt RPG games.