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[brunomalta]

SolVita wrote...

Sometimes I feel I’m the only person on the i-net who do not like Bethesda games. They just... I don’t know... feels like the MMORPG, only without other players. The game world is so boring and empty.

You are not alone. It is exactly like that for me too. Also, plot sucks and dialogs are horrible. It looks like someone from MY country wrote that crap.

[Khayness]

Seitur wrote...

Who need everything voice acted?

We are living in the cinematic experience games era.

Reading isn't cool anymore.

[AkiKishi]

element eater wrote...


correct atari do own the rights and if i recall theres rumours that they are working on a D&D game most likely it wil be a new neverwinter game but it is possible that they might do a BG3 i guess. 

as for who id want to make BG3, well id say any attempt would fail so no one should remake it

Any idea who they are working with ?Because there are rumours about Obsidian and IWD3.

[Vengeful Nature]

BobSmith101 wrote...

element eater wrote...


correct atari do own the rights and if i recall theres rumours that they are working on a D&D game most likely it wil be a new neverwinter game but it is possible that they might do a BG3 i guess. 

as for who id want to make BG3, well id say any attempt would fail so no one should remake it

Any idea who they are working with ?Because there are rumours about Obsidian and IWD3.

It's not a rumour, but it's not IWD3 either.

It's this. Could be promising.

[Khayness]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Any idea who they are working with ?Because there are rumours about Obsidian and IWD3.

There were news about some Neverwinter MMOG.

[Monica83]

I agree with the new direction taked on bioware games better let D&D titles to others in order to keep things at the best quality

[SolVita]

brunomalta wrote...

SolVita wrote...

Sometimes I feel I’m the only person on the i-net who do not like Bethesda games. They just... I don’t know... feels like the MMORPG, only without other players. The game world is so boring and empty.

You are not alone. It is exactly like that for me too. Also, plot sucks and dialogs are horrible. It looks like someone from MY country wrote that crap.

Really? It’s
nice to know I am not alone in this. Guess, we just prefer good story and
good writing to… well, something, that Bethesda does better <_<

Modifié par SolVita, 10 mars 2011 - 02:42 .

[Giantdeathrobot]

Hang on, you would handle Baldur's Gate to, of all developers, friggin Bethesda? The guys who turned a mature, texte-heavy cRPG with a unique stat system set in a coherent universe into a kiddie shooter with useless stats, nuclear explosions for teh lulz of it and a world populated only by stupid ****heads that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, all that covered in heavy-handed black and white morality? After shifting their very own franchise with Oblivion? And showing only signs to make Skyrim an action game (not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but it's not RPG-ish anymore)?

I reiterate, you really want Bethesda to handle BG after that? Based from what I played of DA2, apart from some design mistakes, they still got it way more than Beth. At least their writers are capable of handling good dialogue and don't resort to that BS ''radiant AI'' system and NPC response that sound like some watered-down Wikipedia article.

...What was I saying? Oh yes, I saw a mudcrab the other day, terrible creatures.

[element eater]

@ Vengeful Nature

thanks i wasnt aware of that good to know

[Foxhound2020]

brunomalta wrote...

SolVita wrote...

Sometimes I feel I’m the only person on the i-net who do not like Bethesda games. They just... I don’t know... feels like the MMORPG, only without other players. The game world is so boring and empty.

You are not alone. It is exactly like that for me too. Also, plot sucks and dialogs are horrible. It looks like someone from MY country wrote that crap.

Exactly, they keep on using the same formula from ten yrs ago. Want to bet money with me that the main character on skyrim will still be a voiceless, kinless chasm? Storytelling is not their forte.

If they gave the main character a voice actor....,I would be GREATLY impressed.

[Gvaz]

I agree with the OP, but choose Obsidian instead.

They did this with KOTOR and they made a better game.

[Gvaz]

Also a voiced protagonist in an RPG drags the game down, unless the VA is hilarious (like in Two Worlds).

Why?

Voiced: You're directing a character.
Text: You're roleplaying your virtual avatar.

[brunomalta]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

SolVita wrote...

Sometimes I feel I’m the only person on the i-net who do not like Bethesda games. They just... I don’t know... feels like the MMORPG, only without other players. The game world is so boring and empty.

You are not alone. It is exactly like that for me too. Also, plot sucks and dialogs are horrible. It looks like someone from MY country wrote that crap.

Exactly, they keep on using the same formula from ten yrs ago. Want to bet money with me that the main character on skyrim will still be a voiceless, kinless chasm? Storytelling is not their forte.

If they gave the main character a voice actor....,I would be GREATLY impressed.

Also...are they gonna use that horrible engine they used on Oblivion and Fallout 3? That thing is a bug mess.

[Galactus_the_Devourer]

Why would anyone make a BG3? That story is as finished as it gets.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Baldur's Gate 3: The Adventures Of Minsc? Butt-kicking for goodness the entire game? I could see myself playing that.

[Monica83]

A voiced character don't make a game more interesting.. A story can be great also with a mute character..For the basheeda well they make an impressing job with skyrim but the essence of basheeda game its not the story but much more the exploration.. Anyways consider how bioware ruined dragon age i hope they will not make a baldurs gate sequel ever... I Just thinking at a baldours gate game with the wheel and dialogue ala mass effect.. And the nausea make me feel very bad...

Im not a troll but after seen Dragon age 2 its time for bioware to make mickey mouse games

[Planeforger]

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Bethesda is pretty much the last company I'd want touching BG3, and I was never even a huge BG fan. They've -never- done anything remotely like BG2, in terms of story-focused questing, well-written characters or party-based gameplay, and all of their recent games have been pretty casual/shallow/action-y.

Obsidian are probably the only devs that could pull it off - NWN2 had a few moments that made it feel like a spiritual successor to BG2 (definitely moreso than DA:O, imo).

[drokan]

chaosapiant wrote...

If ANYONE make BG3 I'd be pissed. It came to a very satisfactory conclusion, and there is no way we could get another DND RPG with the same protagonist using 2nd edition rules. It would be a spin off at best, just using the name, and thus really doesn't need to be made.

I agree, BG series had a satisfaying conclusion but I won't say no to another BG game, even with 2nd edition rules. 

Think about this: BG3 main story will be set as protagonist became a god and having a war with Cyric and followers to claim each others throne? Or the BG3 protagonist is a follower-worshipper of our character in BG series and running quest series in the name of him.

Who can develop the famous series again? Obsidian and Bethesda are the best candidates.

[ToJKa1]

brunomalta wrote...

But sure you agree that after Morrowind, they have been declining?

Oblivion, in some parts, was a step down from Morrowind, sure. But Fallout 3 was in many parts, a step up from Oblivion. They have a bad habbit of overcompensating based on user feedback, which for example resulted in Oblivion's level scaling, and i fully expect Skyrim to have such WTF?! features too.

Still the base game is good and the mishaps are fixable by mods, so their games are always good buys

With BW i've come to expect that their games are good as is, and are occasionally enhanceable with mods. And no, DA2 did not chance nor challenge that expectation.

Modifié par ToJKa1, 10 mars 2011 - 03:15 .

[brunomalta]

Why do the plot has to continue with the story o 1 and 2? The World is so big, so full of other characters.

[cgoodno]

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Thank you!

Let me get this straight, the people who made the first two critically acclaimed Baldur's Gate games is not good enough to create the third one?

Man, if only someone had told Peter Jackson that with the Return of the King. /s

Modifié par cgoodno, 10 mars 2011 - 03:13 .

[Monica83]

Consider what they did with dragon age 2 dear cgoodno no they are not

[Gvaz]

Return of the king is fine though?

Peter Jackson's not a retard like George Lucas (yet) anyways

[CerealWar]

aftohsix wrote...

You don't mind that it takes you five minutes (exaggeration) to walk across the screen?

EDIT #2:  And I'm not starting a fight but IMO a true classic game should be able to be played Vanilla and still be a great game.

I'm just saying back in the day it seemed like Goldeneye was the best game ever.  If you fire it up now I promise you're going to get frustrated with the controls.

Most games don't age well.  Some of them are timeless.  Baldur's Gate isn't one of those.

I've played Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, and NWN 2 this year and I must say, it was easier getting used to BG's aged, fixed camera view than NWN and NWN2's crazy, spinny camera of death. And this is moving from Dragon Age's camera control (which I really liked). I think BG, or atleast BG2, has aged pretty well. Better than NWN and NWN2 at least.

[Jim_uk]

Bethesda are great at making open worlds, they fall down when it comes to putting anything interesting in them, I couldn't imagine playing Oblivion and FO3 without mods. It's hard to beleive that the company who made Morrowind also made the brain dead Oblivion. I'd love to see Obsidian make BG3 on the condition that they actually hire some testers. I wouldn't trust Bioware at the moment, the EA cancer has taken hold now and unless something drastic happens the only way is down just like every other developer EA touch.