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[El Codge]

CerealWar wrote...

I think BG, or atleast BG2, has aged pretty well. Better than NWN and NWN2 at least.

I agree with with his. NWN looks pretty primitive.

NWN2's performance issues were and still are a mystery. It really should look better considering the FPS most people got out of it at the time. The dynamic lighting was pretty cool though.

[Vengeful Nature]

cgoodno wrote...

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Thank you!

Let me get this straight, the people who made the first two critically acclaimed Baldur's Gate games is not good enough to create the third one?

I am arguing exactly that. Bioware is a very different company that it was in 2000.

[Foxhound2020]

Monica83 wrote...

A voiced character don't make a game more interesting.. A story can be great also with a mute character..For the basheeda well they make an impressing job with skyrim but the essence of basheeda game its not the story but much more the exploration.. Anyways consider how bioware ruined dragon age i hope they will not make a baldurs gate sequel ever... I Just thinking at a baldours gate game with the wheel and dialogue ala mass effect.. And the nausea make me feel very bad...

Im not a troll but after seen Dragon age 2 its time for bioware to make mickey mouse games

well, we are in the 21st century where voice acting is undoubtely the direction for video games which has grown faster than the movie industry in the past two decades.

voice acting on the protagonist can bring a more connected character into the plot. Every game lacking that has the main character reacting to dialogue with a clueless impression on their face.Because it gives you a more emotional connection to the story, it does make the game more interesting. I am a die hard rpg fan who would love the return of DAO, but I do not understand this dislike of the Mass effect wheel.

Modifié par Foxhound2020, 10 mars 2011 - 03:34 .

[Ticladesign]

NWN's camera controls are fine if you spend just a few moments ajusting it to your personal wishes. If there is a problem, it's more that there are so many people with so many different tastes in how the camera should work. You have the Badur's Gate players who like top down, the MMO players who like the "chase" cam with WASD controls, and so on.

The NWN2 camera is the result of Obsidian trying to implement a system that served a wide audience.

Personally i'm more of a "behind the characater and rotate" player, so the things as they are curtently in DA2 are perfectly fine with me.

We are living in the cinematic experience games era.

Reading isn't cool anymore.

That's what seperates RPG players from the Action/Adventure crowd. Cinematic games lead to alot of restrictions on player choice, and customalisation. And guess what RPG's are supposed to be, right - focus on character customalisation.

Most of us can read you know, and our imagination can still fill in for any lack of cinematic feel.

I rather have more variety and character choice/customalisation, than one Cinematic cutscene I skip, anyway on my 2nd playthrough.

"Cutscenes are a sign of weakness" - Danny Bilson, THQ inc.

[Monica83]

Fox i must clarify this.. I have nothing aganist a voice character.. But the wheel system is a cancer for a serious rpg game.. Did you notice that in dragon age 2 the only thing you chose on the dialogues are tones? This isn't roleplay a great deal can be implement a VO character with old style dialogue system... The mass effect wheel don't allow you to chose what your character is going to say.. This create less immersion because you are forced to be a spectator and you can't build the pshyche of your character but you forced to play a character that its not yours... This system works well when you have a total premaded character like geralt of rivia but is ridicolus in a game where you are supposed to create your hero..

[El Codge]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

well, we are in the 21st century where voice acting is undoubtely the direction for video games which has grown faster than the movie industry in the past two decades.

voice acting on the protagonist can bring a more connected character into the plot. Every game lacking that has the main character reacting to dialogue with a clueless impression on their face.Because it gives you a more emotional connection to the story, it does make the game more interesting. I am a die hard rpg fan who would love the return of DAO, but I do not understand this dislike of the Mass effect wheel.

Agree with some of that. Although not necessarily an RPG, Red Dead Redemption's VO for the PC was excellent. It would be a far poorer game without it.

On the other side, you have games like Demon's Souls where your character is completely mute, yet you can roleplay through your actions.

As long as it's done well, it doesn't matter if the PC is voiced or not.

[AkiKishi]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

well, we are in the 21st century where voice acting is undoubtely the direction for video games which has grown faster than the movie industry in the past two decades.

voice acting on the protagonist can bring a more connected character into the plot. Every game lacking that has the main character reacting to dialogue with a clueless impression on their face.Because it gives you a more emotional connection to the story, it does make the game more interesting. I am a die hard rpg fan who would love the return of DAO, but I do not understand this dislike of the Mass effect wheel.

All true but it also means you have to get it right. I'll always remember this one from FFX.

"I'm not playing FFX because Tidus looks like a **** and has a whiny voice"

Thats' the sort of thing you get with a fixed protagonist if the player feels you got it wrong.

Hawkes not great, but he's not awful either, unless you count his multipersonality disorder if you flip around the wheel too much. A better VA would have helped there.

The wheel changes things from roleplaying to playing a role. You can direct the character, but you can't be the character because you don't know what they are going to say with the wheel.

[Cobrawar]

I don't think bioware can make a baulders gate 3 anyway they do not have the rights. I believe Atari does.

[MAD WHITE HAM]

oblivion sucked! ,BORING!!!! go watch nascar if u want to be bored!!!

[backrow]

how about them making a proper RPG Dragon Age 2, with improved (not completely dumbed down and cut down) action rpg.

[Monica83]

At the moment if bioware makes a baldour's gate sequel... Will be a short rushed game

So is really better if they continue with nutella sequels for other games

[Cobrawar]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

oblivion sucked! ,BORING!!!! go watch nascar if u want to be bored!!!

 Oblivion is a great game. If you play it on console it sucks but if you play it on Pc the game is awesome the amount of mods you can use from the  modding community is unreal. There is so much replayability you can play it basically forever.

Skyscrim is going to pwn. look at the trailer

[PinkysPain]

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Thank you!

Oh god, not Bethesda ... the last traditional RPG company went down with Troika.

The best we have now is Obsidian and ze Germans (Gothic/Drakensang/Venetica, it's all a bit rough around the edges but there is potential there).

[AkiKishi]

Kind of like it.

http://www.ps3blog.n...-and-game-play/

very actiony, but then it calls itself a dungeon crawl and there is nothing wrong with that.

[StabbedInTheBack]

Obsidian and pc exclusive BG3 *drool*

[Talonfire]

I haven't played Dragon Age II yet and probably won't play it for a long while since I didn't care for the demo, but I'd argue that BioWare is better suited to develop Baldur's Gate III than Bethesda would be. As long as BioWare kept why people loved Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II in mind while developing it, I think they could do an adequate job at bringing the series into the current generation.

Modifié par Talonfire, 10 mars 2011 - 03:58 .

[AkiKishi]

StabbedInTheBack wrote...

Obsidian and pc exclusive BG3 *drool*

Not likely I don't think the PC market can support it. Then again if you planned the game around the next generation of consoles that could work out quite nicely all around.

[FellowerOfOdin]

Even EA would not dare touching BG, the Baldur's Gate series is immune to the vicious corruption EA likes to spread.

[Twaddlefish]

Well, if Bioware did make a Baldur's Gate 3, I'd be quite excited. Aside from the obvious legacy, the BG franchise flourished on the PC, and the while the Dark Alliance titles were a bit/very meh, there'd be enough of a fanbase to warrant making a PC exclusive game - provided it was done in the spirit of the original games.

However, I feel the story was concluded excellently and would like to see the it remain that way.

Failing that, I'd go for Obsidian or whichever part of Square Enix are cooking up Human Revolution.

[Barbosa]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

Baldur's Gate 3: The Adventures Of Minsc? Butt-kicking for goodness the entire game? I could see myself playing that.

Will you be so kind to tell me where can I pre-order it? hehe...

[Baroo5]

electroban wrote...

Hey Bioware, how about giving your Baldurs Gate IP to Bethesda? Then I don't have to worry you shafting one of the best PC titles of all time into consolation hell.

Thank you!

i hope they do 

[AkiKishi]

Twaddlefish wrote...

Well, if Bioware did make a Baldur's Gate 3, I'd be quite excited. Aside from the obvious legacy, the BG franchise flourished on the PC, and the while the Dark Alliance titles were a bit/very meh, there'd be enough of a fanbase to warrant making a PC exclusive game - provided it was done in the spirit of the original games.

However, I feel the story was concluded excellently and would like to see the it remain that way.

Failing that, I'd go for Obsidian or whichever part of Square Enix are cooking up Human Revolution.

You think ? It's been a while since I was a PC gamer but I did notice one thing. If you release a console game everyone who bought that console is a potential customer. Just because you release a PC game does not mean that everyone has a PC that will meet the requirements.

[WarpedAcorn]

Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but...

I don't think anyone will make Baldur's Gate 3. The tale of the Ward from Candlekeep is completed. There is no way they can improve or destroy that story because it is over. The tale was told from level 1 peon to epic-level Godhood.

Any future Baldur's Gate story would be a new game, with a new protagonist, in a new story that could in no way tarnish the glory of the original Baldur's Gate Saga.

[Solmyr2000]

Do you really want Baldur's Gate 3?

...Bioware: Baldur's Effect 3 (Dumbed do... oh, sorry, streamlined!)
...Bethesda: The Elder Gates: Baldout 3 (Oh look, graphics and freedom. And... nothing else)
...Obsidian: BUGur's Gate 3 (*crash-freeze-crash-freeze*)
...and so on

[Twaddlefish]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Twaddlefish wrote...

Well, if Bioware did make a Baldur's Gate 3, I'd be quite excited. Aside from the obvious legacy, the BG franchise flourished on the PC, and the while the Dark Alliance titles were a bit/very meh, there'd be enough of a fanbase to warrant making a PC exclusive game - provided it was done in the spirit of the original games.

However, I feel the story was concluded excellently and would like to see the it remain that way.

Failing that, I'd go for Obsidian or whichever part of Square Enix are cooking up Human Revolution.

You think ? It's been a while since I was a PC gamer but I did notice one thing. If you release a console game everyone who bought that console is a potential customer. Just because you release a PC game does not mean that everyone has a PC that will meet the requirements.

Unfortunately that's the way it seems to be going. I still remember when Game had wall to wall of PC games in BOXES, not DVD cases, and console stuff took up a fraction of space. These days, it's completely the opposite and my local Game manager freely admits that it's because it sells more; they made £50k on the midnight release of MW2 on console.

On that last part, I think that the majority of the potential demographic who are interested in a BG3 will have a decent enough rig to warrant running it. Ideally I suppose we'd like an next-gen isometric view with perhaps DAO-type dialogue, but I digress. BG3 will attract the RPG following, and I'll be damned if their machines aren't ready to blast across Skyrim the day it comes out, but I do see your point.