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[Jebel Krong]

me1 < me2 < me2 DLCs, so: no.

[Atilius the Hun]

I'm not worried in the least bit. The overall story for all three were written before ME 1 was released and the ME devs are working with tools that helped them gain multiple awards for their earlier games. Besides, I don't think that ME3 is being rushed as it's released almost two years after ME2 which is about the same time difference between ME 1 and ME 2.

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

I'm not worried no. After playing Lair of the Shadow Broker, I think Biowares best work in terms of the Mass Effect games is still to come. Shadow Broker was one of, if not the strongest story based mission in ME2. If Bioware can continue to raise the bar just through DLC, then I see no reason why ME3 can't top ME2. And in the end, why worry? It's not going to change a thing. ME3 will play out as Bioware wish, and i'm sure when the game is out it'll have it's fans and it's detractors - just as the first two games did, just as Dragon Age Origins did, and just as Dragon Age 2 has now.

Modifié par GHOST OF FRUITY, 10 mars 2011 - 04:25 .

[XyleJKH]

Im just worried about "starting fresh". The third game should be epic, and if they' re going to do the game like LotSb then should be awesome

[Kurinshin]

Not worried at all.

[The Spamming Troll]

GHOST OF FRUITY wrote...

I'm not worried no. After playing Lair of the Shadow Broker, I think Biowares best work in terms of the Mass Effect games is still to come. Shadow Broker was one of, if not the strongest story based mission in ME2. If Bioware can continue to raise the bar just through DLC, then I see no reason why ME3 can't top ME2. And in the end, why worry? It's not going to change a thing. ME3 will play out as Bioware wish, and i'm sure when the game is out it'll have it's fans and it's detractors - just as the first two games did, just as Dragon Age Origins did, and just as Dragon Age 2 has now.

i dont get this. so 2 good hours of a mediocre 30 hour game is a good thing? why wasnt ME2 originally as "good" as the LOTSB DLC? why did i have to pay 15 bucks to finally get a storyline in a game?

Severyx wrote...

Bunch of whiners. This is why the
Bioware forums are slipping downhill - a retarded vocal minority. Every
person I personally know absolutely loves DA2 so far (even the rabid
hardcore DA:O players), and I have no doubts about ME3. The ME team
knows a lot is riding on this, and as long as people don't sit there
and wish for impossible or stupidly out-of-context things, everything
will be fine.

minority? you do realize most of the comments in here are on the side of ME2 being a crappy sequal right? i would say your in the minority really.

[Manic Sheep]

Not really no, different team working on ME, longer dev time, unlike ME1 to ME2 and DA:O to DA2 things should not be getting completely overhauled again and it’s a different style of game anyway. I can’t imagine its going to be that different from what we have in ME2 in terms of basic mechanics.
Allot (tho not all) of the stuff changed from ME1 to ME2 fit better and was for the good IMO and ME was always a hybrid. The same sort of change however is not necessarily fitting for DA and its more of a drastic change.
Plus every time I’ve been of a forum for a game when a sequel has been released there has been ridicules amounts of fan hate. I have only played the DA2 demo, don’t know if the ****ing is warranted.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 10 mars 2011 - 08:00 .

[keginkc]

I loved ME2 and have loved my first 15 hours in DA2, so no, not particularly worried.

[Razorsedge820]

I was not a big fan of of DAO so if Dragon Age 2 is different than the first thats enough for me to give it a chance.

As for having any doubt about Mass Effect 3 I cant say since all we got so far was a trailer. Judging from the changes made from ME1 to ME2 its clear bioware is performing a balance act trying to keep the RPG elements that made the first game so great while introducing new gameplay mechanics that attract the average shooter fan.

I liked the changes bioware made in Mass Effect 2 (except for the main story line) and have complete faith that the 3rd will be just as great if not better.

[Aurgelmir]

Dragon Age 2 was a complete overhaul of Dragon Age whereas Mass Effect 2 was the same game minus certain RPG elements.

I think Mass Effect 3 will have a compelling enough story to make any changes bearable. That said though I would like it if they maybe found a compromise between ME1 and ME2 in terms of weapons upgrading and levelling up. They didn't work all that well in ME1 and they were improved on in ME2, but I think they over-fixed it.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Well ME2 pretty much shot my expectations for ME3 to oblivion. I'm still playing DA:2 so I can't render a final judgement, but the area that it lacked in so far hasn't been the story, but the environment design and, one of the most annoying features of ME2, the significant amount of automatic dialogue. Other than that it's fine - so far. But DA2 kind of parallels ME1 and ME2 in many aspects. But I'll just stop there.

-Polite

[UKStory135]

DragonIroh001 wrote...

Just want to get fellow ME fans views.

Now with all the negative fan backlash with regards to Dragon Age 2 and how it was far from everyone's expectations.
Has this given anyone here the seeds of doubt into anyone's mind in regards to ME3's final product?

In my case It hasn't really changed a thing for me since I haven't played DA:O or DA2.

Where did you hear the reception was bad?  If it was only on these forums, I'd take it with a grain of salt.  If you read the ME forums enough you start to think that ME2 was the worst game in the history of games even though it was critically loved and one of the biggest hits of 2010.

[Tarek]

they can't mess ME 3 even if they wanted to.
if they do, it will be pretty damn hard to mess it up
I hope it will be as great as ME1 and ME2 though

[Whoo71]

The first Mass Effect received praise for its story telling and RPG elements, but it received negative feedback concerning the gameplay. Mass Effect 2 had really good gameplay that was a massive improvement, but it seems that the gameplay was focused on more than the story. If BioWare combines the feedback from both of the games then there is no reason why Mass Effect 3 shouldn't be as good, or even better, than the first.

[Matt VT Schlo]

If the thing aint broke, dont fix it...........Bioware needs to stick to a forumla instead of 'updating' their style with every release

[Whatever42]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

DragonIroh001 wrote...
Now with all the negative fan backlash with regards to Dragon Age 2 and how it was far from everyone's expectations.
Has this given anyone here the seeds of doubt into anyone's mind in regards to ME3's final product?

It has with me, a little.  I played the demo and was unimpressed.  That game has budget crunch written all over it.  I may pick up a copy from the bargain bin, or wait for an Ultimate Edtion, like I did with DAO.  After seeing what they've done with DA2, I can't say that I'll pre-order ME3 now.   

Agreed about the crunch. When a dev starts reusing environments so heavily, its exactly budget crunch time. It's not the first time Bioware has done this - ME1 obviously hit a budget crunch (so this is a Bioware thing, not an EA thing).  But I don't think we're likely to see that in ME3.

Both ME1 and DA2 had Bioware trying something pretty new. They were great ideas and didn't turn out awful but they left a lot undone. New things are hard to budget and plan correctly. The ME2 team did a better job, even if that meant cutting things out rather than leaving them and risking a crunch. And since ME3 is just ME2+ (no core mechanics are being changed), I don't think there's much chance we'll see history repeat itself.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 10 mars 2011 - 10:47 .

[D4rth Man7iz]

I might be wrong....aren't Dragon Age and Mass Effect developed by different Bioware studios?

I don't have nothing to worry about, DA II is nice, sometimes people tend to be so harsh when it comes to reviewing games.

[RedShft]

DragonIroh001 wrote...

Just want to get fellow ME fans views.

Now with all the negative fan backlash with regards to Dragon Age 2 and how it was far from everyone's expectations.
Has this given anyone here the seeds of doubt into anyone's mind in regards to ME3's final product?

In my case It hasn't really changed a thing for me since I haven't played DA:O or DA2.

DA2 is a great game, people just are afraid of change and do not like to admit that DA:O was not a perfect game by any means.

Second, Bioware has at least three different studios. So, this means there are entirely different people working on the Mass Effect series (although some people may transfer). 

These two gaming franchises are as unreleated as it gets, so if you jump to the conclusion that "because people were disappointed in DA2 then they wont like ME3" then you are a fool. 

I would love it if people could judge a game after actually playing it rather than through trailers and gameplay videos. Also it would be nice if they could throw aside their biases and realize their failings when they produce reviews on a game. 

I've seen many DA2 reviews where the reviewer would state something like "Combat falls short" and in their complaints they list how mages have the tendency to run towards a fight instead of being at range. They fail to realize that this was not a flaw of the game but their incompetence and ignorance about proper use of tactics that causes this. Its as simple as changing the overall behavior of a mage to "Ranged" to get the desired behavior. 

[Rekkampum]

RedShft wrote...
Second, Bioware has at least three different studios. So, this means there are entirely different people working on the Mass Effect series (although some people may transfer). 

These two gaming franchises are as unreleated as it gets, so if you jump to the conclusion that "because people were disappointed in DA2 then they wont like ME3" then you are a fool. 

That. 

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

GHOST OF FRUITY wrote...

I'm not worried no. After playing Lair of the Shadow Broker, I think Biowares best work in terms of the Mass Effect games is still to come. Shadow Broker was one of, if not the strongest story based mission in ME2. If Bioware can continue to raise the bar just through DLC, then I see no reason why ME3 can't top ME2. And in the end, why worry? It's not going to change a thing. ME3 will play out as Bioware wish, and i'm sure when the game is out it'll have it's fans and it's detractors - just as the first two games did, just as Dragon Age Origins did, and just as Dragon Age 2 has now.

i dont get this. so 2 good hours of a mediocre 30 hour game is a good thing? why wasnt ME2 originally as "good" as the LOTSB DLC? why did i have to pay 15 bucks to finally get a storyline in a game?

Severyx wrote...

Bunch of whiners. This is why the
Bioware forums are slipping downhill - a retarded vocal minority. Every
person I personally know absolutely loves DA2 so far (even the rabid
hardcore DA:O players), and I have no doubts about ME3. The ME team
knows a lot is riding on this, and as long as people don't sit there
and wish for impossible or stupidly out-of-context things, everything
will be fine.

minority? you do realize most of the comments in here are on the side of ME2 being a crappy sequal right? i would say your in the minority really.

I don't really care if you 'get it' or not.  See when I typed down my opinion, it was just that - my opinion.  Not the right opinion, not the wrong opinion, not the opinion of the forum - just mine.  

Modifié par GHOST OF FRUITY, 10 mars 2011 - 11:05 .

[Manic Sheep]

Matt VT Schlo wrote...

If the thing aint broke, dont fix it...........Bioware needs to stick to a forumla instead of 'updating' their style with every release

The whole "if it aint broke don’t fix it" mentality is how things stagnate and is one of the reasons you get so many clones of the same game. Screw progress and innovation! If it works all right let’s just stick with that.

If you don't want things to change then why don't you just play the same game over and over again, stay in the same job and eat the same meal every night for your entire life.
I also don't see why bioware has to stick to making one particular type of game. I only hope they don't abandon their roots completely and never make another old school strategy RPG but there is no reason they can't branch out, try new things and add variety to the formula.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 10 mars 2011 - 11:03 .

[BrutaleBent]

Don't think that many are dissappointed in DA2, I know I'm not. Dissatisfied people just usually are more vocal than the satisfied part. There's ofcourse always stuff you would see changed - but that's how it is with all games. DA2 so far is awesome - just remember, it's not DA:O. I'm a fanboi though, so I'm biased and thus should not be trusted! I'm confident ME3 will be a good game too. ;D

[Rekkampum]

Um, Bioware has about three different departments. The ones working on DA 2 are not the same as the ones working on Mass Effect 3. Doubts eliminated.