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Maverick827

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(Please try to avoid story-based spoilers despite this forum being labeled as such.  "On one boss encounter there is XYZ mechanic that makes ABC really strong" is fine, though)

This will be the third day of having the game and I still haven't finished playing anything past where the demo left off.  I've been busy with other things (shameless plug: my character planner) but part of the issue is I just cannot seem to figure out what composition I want to run.

I'm playing Nightmare out of the gate because I don't believe I'll have fun on any other setting.  Every accomplishment on Hard would come with a nagging feeling of "well, it's not Nightmare..."

I guess one of the largest issues can be answered simply: does Bethany/Carver obtain special talent trees, or can they pick up specializations, or can all companions pick up specializations?  I think Aveline will have to be my tank regardless, but if Bethany can pick up Spirit Healer, I might be able to rule out Anders as an auto-slot (unless Swift Justice is as amazing as it sounds).

I think I've narrowed it down to Mage Hawke and Rogue Hawke (dual wield), but my days as a Rogue in WoW have conditioned me to loathe being a Rogue in melee range when there's so much incidental damage flying around (Friendly Fire, Warrior cleaves, etc.).  Though it appears as if Rogues can get a threat drop (Stealth) every 10 seconds, so perhaps they won't be as squishy as I fear.

Mage Hawke seems like an easy way to go, but if you couldn't tell by my Bethany-as-Spirit-Healer musings above, I kind of want to use her if I can.  I'm also mulling over the idea of Hawke-as-Spirit Healer, but again I'm not sure how effective Anders is.  If he's the Aveline of healing, then I guess he's a staple as well.
Some current ideas:

Aveline / Rogue Hawke / Bethany (Spirit Healer?) / ???

Aveline / Rogue Hawke / Anders / ???

Aveline / Mage Hawke / Anders / Varric

Aveline / Mage Hake (Spirit Healer) / Varric / ???

I don't think I'd be playing a Warrior, and I don't think I want to deal with Isabella's squishiness or Fenris’ incidental 2H cleaving on Nightmare.  Does anyone who has actually played the game have any advice?

Modifié par Maverick827, 10 mars 2011 - 03:23 .


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Grumpy Old Wizard

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My mage is level 8 in NM, and his focus in on Primal. The party so far has been:

Aveline /Carver/ Mage Hawke /  Varric.

However, I just rescued Anders and am going to try putting him in Carver's place. I'm not sure how it will work out without a secondary tank in the party but my mage has no interest in being the party healer and Anders has the talents to fill the role.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 10 mars 2011 - 04:56 .


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Sokane

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I won't say more as you've requested... but Beth cannot be the spirit healer you desire...

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TheOneAndOni

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Yeah, the siblings do not get specializations or "unique" trees like the other companions. If you want a "dedicated" healer, it will have to be Mage Hawke or Anders.

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Maverick827

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Ah, that's really unfortunate. I think I've narrowed it down to:

Aveline / Spirit Healer Hawke / Varric / ???
or
Aveline / Rogue Hawke / Anders / ???

I think in either case the ??? would be someone ranged; the less melee the better. That leaves Merill or Sebastian. Anyone have any info on Merill's personal tree?

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Sokane

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Merill is a blood mage with a few unique twist...

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Colma

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For Hawke, rogue is just plain nasty...you'll be doing 800+damage before level 10 on a single use of twin fangs and good daggers, roflstomping anything that might give you lip (mages, elites, whatever).
Switched to rogue when I found mage damage output and CC ability generally underwhelming compared to DA:O.

Yes, on nightmare.

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Agent_Dark_

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how well does isabella go as dps compared to rouge hawke?