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DA:O Importing problem *DA:O spoilers*


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alegl5141

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Ok, this is a strange bug and very frustrating to be sure.

I'm importing my first Origins character's data into DA2 and selecting the Witch Hunt file which was the final piece of DLC I played after all else (Origins, Awakening, Golems etc). My problem is that while it has a lot of the decisions made from Origins and Awakening, some key ones like placing Alistair on the throne are missing and apparently I never performed the Dark Ritual (which I did), suggesting to me that DA2 does not seem to believe I beat Origins.

I've heard about importing problems being solved by replaying the final conversation in Witch Hunt. Is that likely to help with this however?

I have a second female character which has beaten both Origins and Awakening (but not Witch Hunt) and that seems to import correctly, but I would rather the sequel use the history of my Original warden.
 

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alegl5141

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Anyone at all?

Would appreciate a Bioware response on this matter particularly, really don't want to start II until I know what the problem is.

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Right, well I've replayed the final scene of Witch Hunt to no avail.

I am NOT going through all of Origins again. I'm done with it now, I want to start 2 and I can't because the stupid game doesn't think I've beaten the original - I spent close to 100 hours playing both it and the expansion and all DLC. I want my accomplishments to be recognized!

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It should be noted that the DLC packs "Return to Ostagar", "Darkspawn Chronicles", "Leliana's Song", "Golems of Amgaraak" and "Witch Hunt" have no plot flags that are checked inside of Dragon Age 2 right now, hence the lack of descriptive plot flags when checking your save file plot summary.

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It's not that - some of my Origins accomplishments are missing.

When I try and import the save, I get a message telling me that it hasn't been beaten and that the game will incorporate default outcomes to some key plot points (or words to that effect).

I'm aware of the fact that the DLC have no details which carry over.

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I ran into one problem. I killed the architect and the plot summary confirmed it, but it was referenced in the game that the architect was spared.

I know that doesn't solve your problem.

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Morning bump.

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I'm having the exact same problem, and I think I have traced it to a problem that Awakenings had with importing save data. Let me start with my original Origins playthrough:

I played through Origins, burned Cailan's body (Return to Ostagar), killed Loghain, did the dark ritual, placed Al on the throne, and saved during the post coronation party. My Warden's level was 22.

Then (back before Awakenings was released), I decided that I wanted to get the "Recruit all allies across all playthroughs", so I loaded up an earlier save (right at the start of the landsmeet). I exiled Al, recruited Loghain, got the achievement, and the game autosaved. My Warden's level for this save was 19.

When Awakenings came out, I imported the post coronation save (level 22). But I noticed some strange things as I played through. The oddest thing was that, at one point, Loghain showed up to give me a bunch of surplus weapons/armor before heading off to the Warden base in Orlais. I figured it was just a glitch because I had killed that conniving jerk in the save I had loaded. I ignored it and moved on to complete the game (saving Ameanthine & killing the Architect in the process). My warden was now level 35

Then I played Witch Hunt (which I had been looking forward to playing, as my Warden was in a devoted relationship with Morrigan). I imported my level 35 save from Awakenings. When I finally tracked her down, there was some weird dialogue about her leaving before the final battle because I refused the ritual. Now I was really questioning my sanity, because I know I accepted the ritual, and she was part of my party during the archfiend fight. Still I completed Witch Hunt, and I walked through the mirror with her.

Now, fast forward to DA2. I go to import my Witch Hunt save, and it says that I never finished Origins. It also says that Loghain is alive and the ritual was not performed. I go to import my Awakenings save, and it tells me the same thing. I then go to import my Origins save (the post coronation one I initially selected to import into Awakenings), and it recognizes it as a completed save where Loghain has been killed & the ritual was performed.

It looks like the presence of a later save than the one I initially chose to import into Awakenings caused problems & ruined the save-chain all the way through Witch Hunt.

TL;DR: It's not a problem with DA2... it's a problem that stems back from Awakenings not importing things properly. Try your original completed Origins save, and it should be okay.

I hope this helps.

-DW

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***SPOILERS (DA2, DA-A, DA:O)***

I have the same problem as SunnKingg, I killed the Architect, and just got to the part where you find Nathaniel in the Deep Roads, and he referenced I spared the Architect. Hope this doesn't influence the rest of the quest. EDIT: My import save was from the autosave at the end of Witch Hunt, btw)

I never had problems with Witch Hunt, though. Probably because I never romanced her in that save, nor accepted the ritual. It went exactly how it should have. 

Also, unrelated but still a bug: the quest Raiders on the Cliffs couldn't be completed. I accepted the quest, brought the guards with me, and killed all the raiders. But, whenever I talked to the questgiver again, the starting dialogue for the quest replayed, breaking the quest (and allowing for infinite friendship points for Aveline). I did this pretty early in Act 2, and kept going back to try again. No luck. Patch please? :)

Modifié par Adrias, 11 mars 2011 - 05:30 .


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I think I found the reason for the problem for Awakening imports. I just went through my Witch Hunt save, and it seems that it doesn't have any of the Awakening save in it, even though that's where I imported it from. For example, Oghren's codex entry doesn't mentioning him going to Amaranthine. Another is that there are no codex entries for any Awakening characters (Nathaniel, Anders, Justice, none). Was this intentional?

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Double post

Modifié par Giladas, 12 mars 2011 - 12:21 .


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I have the same issue. I have completed DA:O with three characters, and I have completed both Awakenings and Witch Hunt (played Witch Hunt the day it was released) with one of them (of the remaining two one has started Awakenings and the other one hasn't). Now when I try to import any of the savefiles from the most experienced character DA II claims that I haven't finished Origins. With the reports of DA II getting really confused about the real order of things when you import such a savefile, I dare not start my playthrough yet. As you can probably imagine, I find the present situation pretty irritating.

Both of the other characters import just fine. Shame I kinda feel that first character to be the "true" Warden from Origins, so I don't really feel like going ahead with these other imports due to the differences in decisions. Any fixes forthcoming or any duct tape solutions available that I should know about ? And no, playing through Origins again is not a duct tape solution ;)

Edit: Great, failed and caused a double post :(

Modifié par Giladas, 12 mars 2011 - 12:21 .


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Drakanwolf wrote...

TL;DR: It's not a problem with DA2... it's a problem that stems back from Awakenings not importing things properly. Try your original completed Origins save, and it should be okay.


Not for me.

I've imported my Origins epilogue where I made Alastair king and became Queen and I've just come across a conversation with a character who makes a reference to Queen Anora. I'm hoping that the other flags won't do that, but I thought I'd point it out anyway. It's really annoying.

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^ I think that flag is backwards. I made Anora queen and had Aveline reference a King in a conversation about the casualties in Ostagar finally being sorted out. One of the Questioning Beliefs quests I think.

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Just had the Suspicious Lady in the Hanged Man give me the flag for Secret Rendevous. This is supposed to be available to those who saved Amaranthine in Awakening, however my import into DA2 should be that I saved Vigil's Keep... oddly enough I have The Conspirators (the quest available if you saved Keep/burned Amaranthine) open at the moment. Either my Warden can bilocate or something's not flagging properly.

My import was from Witch Hunt, so that might explain a lot.

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i'm having problems too
I put both Anora and Alistair on the throne and kept Loghain alive by making Alistair hardened but it says i only put Alistair on the throne

also i never got any quests relating to Awakenings, i hadnt even noticed it, I'm getting really annoyed at all these bugs, they better fix this soon

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C. Ouimet wrote...

It should be noted that the DLC packs "Return to Ostagar", "Darkspawn Chronicles", "Leliana's Song", "Golems of Amgaraak" and "Witch Hunt" have no plot flags that are checked inside of Dragon Age 2 right now, hence the lack of descriptive plot flags when checking your save file plot summary.


Unless i'm understanding you wrong, but on the plot summary when i'm selecting a file to import, it says somewhere at the bottom that i burned Cailan's body, which is what i did.

The bottom 3 are of DLC's. Concerning Return to Ostagar, The Stone Prisoner and Soldier's Keep. As you said though, nothing on Golems of Amgaraak or Witch Hunt.

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Sun and Snow wrote...

Just had the Suspicious Lady in the Hanged Man give me the flag for Secret Rendevous. This is supposed to be available to those who saved Amaranthine in Awakening, however my import into DA2 should be that I saved Vigil's Keep... oddly enough I have The Conspirators (the quest available if you saved Keep/burned Amaranthine) open at the moment. Either my Warden can bilocate or something's not flagging properly.

My import was from Witch Hunt, so that might explain a lot.


I got both quests too, but I saved Amaranthine. Something's up with a lot of flags: Architect, King/Queen of Ferelden, and Vigil's Keep/Amaranthine so far for me. There have been a couple that have worked for me though, namely the Nature of the Beast and A Paragon of Her Kind flags. Both of those picked the right ones for me (*SPOILERS* werewolves cured, Bhelen on the throne *END SPOILERS* Did those work for others as well?). 

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My theory on this bug is that it is faulty character importing on each expansion of DA:O.

One of my wardens went directly from Origins to Witch Hunt, with the dark ritual and romance. When I tried to import to DA2, it said Origins was not finished, the dark ritual was not performed (even though that playthrough of WH described in full detail the condition of my son and whatnot), and that the warden went through the eluvian. So I went back and went to my save file where I did Return to Ostagar after beating the archdemon, import that save to WH and finish the playthrough, and now my story imported up correctly. Instead of the detailed (push Y-button and you can choose the exact time-and-date-save) save, I had originally imported the general character with only the summary of level, etc. I suspect that might be where the plot and flags messed up.

That makes it extra frustrating for my other save from Origins & Awakening (that says Origins wasn't finished in DA2), but would explain why King Alistair showed up in Awakening even though he died killing the archdemon. Just my theory though, could be totally wrong.

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Yeah me too, the Nathanial quest won;t unlock (and i do qualify for it). Also Lilianna isn't referencing she romanced the Warden, don;t know if she's supposed to though.

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I got the same bug, in spite of completing both Origins and Awakenings with the same character. Even though I only played Awakenings with this one character from my Origins import and used that for my DA2 save, it still says I never did the dark ritual, that my Warden somehow DIED and yet STILL saved Amaranthine.

More than a little ticked off about this. There must be some way to patch this so that Origin flags AND Awakening flags show up correctly. This is effing me out of gameplay options and content here.

>:[

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I finally just got my copy and I want to make sure I do everything correctly. I got origins completed, Awakening beat and RTO and Warden's Keep complete. ( I do not have any other DLC)
I get to the import save screen and when I choose to my last file just before the mother in DA:A, the game tells me that Dragon Age Origins was not completed in this saved game file. I beat DAO before I got Awakening. So I imported that character into Awakening. How could I not have beaten Origins!? Did I mess up somewhere? What should I do?

Oh goodness does this mean I would have to re-kill the Archdemon and complete awakenings all over again!? *sigh*

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okay well i'm hitting this problem as well. normally I would read this and groan but i'm finding interesting information. if I try to import DA:A...it doesn't show that alister is King, my character is his wife (opted after making alister hardened and being human noble) and it doesn't show both logain dead or the dark ritual done. of course this load was actually in the throne room post game. all of this is done of course...now the PROBLEM is that its ALSO not showing this in the DA:O load either. so if something is being corrupted going from Origins to Awakening...its actually corrupting the xfer in Origins first. otherwise i'd be willing to accept that awakening is causeing the issue..however it seems the problem is actually in Origins for some reason. not awakening. otherwise these options would exist in only the awakening load and not the origins. if you press the Y in the load options you'll notice this as well.

bottom line I am going to have to go back adn replay origins...again...and spend another week.

I do have some thoughts as to what is happening. I wonder if its a bug in the happiness gages. previously in my origins I didn't harden alistar, nor did I have anyone maxed out other than morrigan. however in this play not only did I have pretty well everyone maxed out (feastday gifts) but i've noticed some of the conversations were somewhat ruined by this as some things didnt happen in line with the friendships. or it could just be a hiccup maybe. I just don't know. all I know is that i'm goign to have to replay origins because my original origins save is apparently corrupt..and its at the end of the game so I can't fix it manually. disappointed :(

is a possible fix to play this connected to the DA servers to prevent this? this seems to be the only thing different from my other origin plays...this time I wasn't logged into the server.