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[bobdave]

Luke Barrett wrote...


SO:
1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

1. Yes.  Often.
2. Nightmare
3. I've only ever gotten the slowdown using Warrior Hawke.

At first i attributed the slowdown to differing weapon attack speeds because the change was gradual.  It only became unplayable after i'd made a few attempts at the high dragon. 

Hope this helps narrow down the problem...

[arosjoa]

SO:
1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

1. I have do it but seems it affects also when you dont resurrect him just when he dies. Example, I just started doing the varric ghost buster quest and Hawke died. I stopped the fight and then I load the auto-save game before the combat starts (so no resurrection) and it keeps having the slow mo effect. I thought I happened only with the HUGE Dragon of the bone pit but seems that the effect that the bug does keeps inside some temporal setting or something because if I close DA2 and I load in a savegame that was before the problem I dont have the bug affecting anymore. If I save with the bug affecting then I keep having the bug in that save and the ones following it (Had to begin year 7 here to stop the nightmare).

2. Me, I have been playing in casual and normal and in both I had the issue. Seems to be every dificulty.

3.Rouge, the only class been playing enough to the problem appear (havent even beated the game, lol)

Modifié par arosjoa, 12 mars 2011 - 10:09 .

[happydictates]

Luke Barrett wrote...

SO:
1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

1. I have used Regroup on Hawke.

2. I typically play the game on Hard, but have turned down the difficulty to Normal 3 or 4 times (currently in Act 4).

3. Rogue.

I first noticed the problems shortly after making an attempt (and failing) to fight the High Dragon in the Bone Pit on Hard. I reloaded but did not try again. The problems showed up over the next hour of gameplay. Figured I'd mention this because I've seen a few posts here about fighting dragons.

As with others, reloading to an older save does not fix the problem.

[JimBob8764]

After a complete reinstall Hawke is still in slow motion. Please note that in my case it is only my most recent couple of saves that have this issue. A save from several hours ago has no apparent slow motion issue.

Modifié par JimBob8764, 12 mars 2011 - 10:18 .

[Joachim181]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Can everyone experiencing this confirm that they have at one time (or multiple times) resurrected Hawke mid-combat? Also, since I've only seen people post the difficulty if it was on Nightmare I'd like to confirm that this happens on all difficulties.

SO:
1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

Unfortunately we need to figure out the cause before we can find a solution.

Oh, and can someone try this for me? Make a backup of all your saves somewhere other than the default directory. Re-install the game and make sure it deletes all previous settings and saves. Does the problem persist? If so it should be a lot easier to track down.

1. Yes, quite often.
2. Mostly normal, bumped it up to hard for a while during the first part of act 1, lowered to casual for the last fight of act 1 and after the problem started to appear.
3. Mage, first playthrough.

Additional information:
- I just did the reinstall as described, no change to the problem after copying back the saves.
- The problem started appearing towards the end of act 2, after timing the attack animation (inaccurately using a stopwatch) for a number of saves I'd place it after The Forgotten Lair (from which point on I used the staff Voracity).
- My save counter is at 3000, the problem definitely started to occur between 1500 and 2000. I've got about 200 savegames for that playthrough, if they're of any use please tell me how to get them to you.

Thanks for looking into this, I had a lot of fun playing the game until this problem cropped up, now I'm quite frustrated 

[arosjoa]

Oh, and can someone try this for me? Make a backup of all your saves somewhere other than the default directory. Re-install the game and make sure it deletes all previous settings and saves. Does the problem persist? If so it should be a lot easier to track down.

Doing this, my guess its that you wanna see the Log if this persist, have to redownload the game again tru Steam but its a few hours only. Gonna post after to see if it keeps having the same problem.
I got the save games with the problem and without so gonna check first if it happens and then if the save game its corrupted too.

[Lanor]

Luke Barrett wrote...

SO:
1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

1.  No
2. Normal
3. Warrior (only character I've made)

Problem started for toward the end of Act II.  I first noticed it when Hawke's charge began to slow down.  This is my first play through and I didn't create a mage character.  My quick save count is up to 1300.  Hawke's only in slow motion during battle.

Modifié par Lanor, 12 mars 2011 - 10:27 .

[Harl37]

1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

1. No
2. Normal
3. I've only noticed it as a mage, starting towards the end of Act II.  I've not gotten that far in a Rogue or Warrior playthrough.

[Khaelir]

Luke Barrett wrote...

1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

Unfortunately we need to figure out the cause before we can find a solution.

Oh, and can someone try this for me? Make a backup of all your saves somewhere other than the default directory. Re-install the game and make sure it deletes all previous settings and saves. Does the problem persist? If so it should be a lot easier to track down.

1. I don't recall.
2. Normal
3.  Mage.

[Darian Tylmare]

1. Don't know, but Anders tactic is set to do this.
2. On normal.
3. Two-handed warrior.
For me, it started after sleeping and playing the game again. Till then, I had no slowdown, but after I started playing again it suddenly was there.
What I did try was deleting all background scripts one at a time in a save file to no avail. I also tried to terminate a battle effect that is even there when you aren't equipped or buffed.
As I posted before, haste seems to negate the effect so when you prolong haste everything seems normal. However, this is only a temporary solution since I always have to "refresh" this with a save game editor.
And I don't know if it's my imagination but I think for me it started after a fight with spiders. Maybe it's a debuff that is aquired after the battle is over. So the game does register a slowdown debuff, but since the battle is over does prolong it to infinity. And after that, it may stack over and over again.

[czaeba]

Darian Tylmare wrote...

I figured out a work-around.
First, unequip your gear and cancel all buffs. Now cast haste.
Make a save and grab that file : http://social.biowar...ect/1936/#files
Than open it and go to SAVEGAME_PLAYERCHARAKTER / SAVEGAME_PLAYERCHARAKTER_CHAR / SAVEGAME_EFFECT_LIST. Now pick the second effect and increase the duration to the highest number possible.
This will now let you have infinte hast, which seems to counter this weird slowdown.
Hope that helps.

Could you be a bit more specific, as if teaching a complete idiot about this stuff? 

I opened up the editor and changed the .bas or .das file, I forget which. I scroll down to the effect list and I have 0, 1, 2, and 3. I tried changing the value to all 9's on all of them separately and it did not work. Do I have to export the file or can I just hit save?

[DusksCrown]

Luke Barrett wrote...

1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

Unfortunately we need to figure out the cause before we can find a solution.

1. Yes, both Ander's Regroup and Mythal's Favor (or whatever that potion resurrection item is called) and at some point, I did reload an old save and tried resetting my Hawke into Spirit Healer specialization and used the ressurection that he has.
2. Normal most of the way, bumped it up to hard occasionally when Hawke seemed overpowered.
3. Have only played it on this mage.

As many have mentioned, I think this bug started around the middle of Act 2. I didn't notice it until around Meredith's first quest in Act 3 but when I reloaded my save with fighting the High Dragon in the Bone Pit, I realized that it had already started at that point (although barely noticeable).

Hope this problem gets resolved soon and thanks for looking into it Bioware. Keep asking if you need us to confirm or test anything, I'd like to help as much as possible to get back into the game. Unfortunately, I really don't want to continue with this bug persisting even though I've been having so much fun with this game for the last couple days.

[Darian Tylmare]

Ok, i'll try.
Make a back-up first. Locate the .das file in your save game folder.
You go down till you find SAVEGAME_EFFECT_LIST.
Now open all of them to find the one with SAVEGAME_EFFECT_ID: 161
In my savegame, this is haste. After you located it change the value in SAVEGAME_EFFECT_DURATION to the highest number possible. Hit save in the lower left corner. After that, go to "file" and choose "save under" and choose your save folder so it overwrites the current one.
Hope that helped.

[Brughe]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Can everyone experiencing this confirm that they have at one time (or multiple times) resurrected Hawke mid-combat? Also, since I've only seen people post the difficulty if it was on Nightmare I'd like to confirm that this happens on all difficulties.

SO:
1. Did you at any point in the game use combat resurrection on Hawke
2. What difficulty are you playing on
3. What class did it first occur on?(it seems to be affecting every class BUT that may be because its systemic and it may have started with a mage)

1.  Yes.
2.  Normal
3.  Mage (to be fair, I'm on my first playthrough and have only played Mage)

[Midnight Freezer]

1. Never
2. Hard
3. Rogue

I did not notice it getting bad until after/during the poison gas attack in Act II.   I reloaded to before that and it happened again at the same spot.

[Luke Barrett]

Thanks for all the responses, everyone! Unfortunately, given the data it looks like none of those things are consistent across all users so back to the drawing board. Given that haste seems to alleviate the issue it seems your characters are somehow being locked in to having -attack speed% from something. On a side note its not PC specific as I'm seeing reports of this on Xbox as well.

My next question is if you were, at any time using the poison that has an attack speed debuff attached with it (sorry I cant remember the name off the top of my head) [thanks to 'msmpsn' for the suggestion]

Also, can anyone confirm that this occured before the Qunari Crisis quest where you fight the Lunatic Elf in the side streets? (where you disable the gas barrels)

Modifié par Luke Barrett, 12 mars 2011 - 11:14 .

[Darian Tylmare]

No, never used any poisons.

[Luke Barrett]

Darian Tylmare wrote...

No, never used any poisons.

Okay, we can cross that off the list then!

On a side note, this only affects your attack animations, correct? Ie. you can run at regular speed just cant fight or use abilities at a normal rate.

[arosjoa]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Thanks for all the responses, everyone! Unfortunately, given the data it looks like none of those things are consistent across all users so back to the drawing board. Given that haste seems to alleviate the issue it seems your characters are somehow being locked in to having -attack speed% from something. On a side note its not PC specific as I'm seeing reports of this on Xbox as well.

My next question is if you were, at any time using the poison that has an attack speed debuff attached with it (sorry I cant remember the name off the top of my head) [thanks to 'msmpsn' for the suggestion]

Also, can anyone confirm that this occured before the Qunari Crisis quest where you fight the Lunatic Elf in the side streets? (where you disable the gas barrels)

Yes I have multiple times.

[arosjoa]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Darian Tylmare wrote...

No, never used any poisons.

Okay, we can cross that off the list then!

On a side note, this only affects your attack animations, correct? Ie. you can run at regular speed just cant fight or use abilities at a normal rate.

Yes only attack animations, I run and move in middle of fight as normal but as soon he is making some attack move starts the matrix mode
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Modifié par arosjoa, 12 mars 2011 - 11:18 .

[KetsuekiKumori]

I've made another post before seeing this one, but my other post just stated that I seem to figure it out for my rogue. For me at least, it seems to happen in Act 3 after talking to first enchanter Orisino during the main quest Best Served Cold. From that point on, my rogue is like half attack speed or less. I'm going to replay as a mage and see if it's consistent for all classes although the devs are probably going to figure it out before I get to that point. Hopefully you guys can fix it.

[Darian Tylmare]

Yeah, it only effects combat. Espescially easy to see when a warrior tries to lunge into combat and slows down while dashing.
On a side note: "Pommel ( I'm playing with german language setting and here it's called "Knaufschlag)" is either too fast to be slowed down or is not this much effected.
@KetsuekiKumori
For me it started after I woke up and loaded a save game in the Varrethal(?) cave on the way out.

Modifié par Darian Tylmare, 12 mars 2011 - 11:24 .

[Luke Barrett]

KetsuekiKumori wrote...

I've made another post before seeing this one, but my other post just stated that I seem to figure it out for my rogue. For me at least, it seems to happen in Act 3 after talking to first enchanter Orisino during the main quest Best Served Cold. From that point on, my rogue is like half attack speed or less. I'm going to replay as a mage and see if it's consistent for all classes although the devs are probably going to figure it out before I get to that point. Hopefully you guys can fix it.

Can you confirm that if you load your save before talking to orsino for Best Served Cold and go to say Hightown Night that your combat speed is normal? And if so talking to him and going directly to the same combat and see if its slower.

[Scottedont]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Thanks for all the responses, everyone! Unfortunately, given the data it looks like none of those things are consistent across all users so back to the drawing board. Given that haste seems to alleviate the issue it seems your characters are somehow being locked in to having -attack speed% from something. On a side note its not PC specific as I'm seeing reports of this on Xbox as well.

My next question is if you were, at any time using the poison that has an attack speed debuff attached with it (sorry I cant remember the name off the top of my head) [thanks to 'msmpsn' for the suggestion]


Also, can anyone confirm that this occured before the Qunari Crisis quest where you fight the Lunatic Elf in the side streets? (where you disable the gas barrels)

The slow down bug occurs for me consistantly after I complete the quest Justice with Anders. I reverted my save game all the way to the begining of year 7 and saved there. Up until that point, the game was bug free for me. Afterwords I experienced the slow down bug, Isabella stuck in my house with the Castillon quest unaccessable, and the rescuing who bug where there is just bandit chillin on the wounded coast. The slow down bug has made this game unplayble for most. My friend is also having this problem. We both played as the mage.

Modifié par Scottedont, 12 mars 2011 - 11:31 .

[czaeba]

Uninstalling the game and removing the save game folder and moving it back after reinstalling does nothing.