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#76
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I am enjoying the game, yes.
But I dont think its a good sequel to Dragon Age.

Its something else entirely.
I didnt enjoy all the streamlined things, I hated the lack of customization, I miss certain skills.

I feel like when I bought Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance.
It's alright, just not what I wanted/expected/desired.

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I was skeptical of DA2, and while I do miss some of the things that DAO had, all in all I really enjoy playing DA2, it's different yes, but bad? No I don't think so, when I got by the shock of it being different (also not getting to be a Grey Warden, it might be just me, but I liked being a Grey Warden) I realised it's a good game.

I do take comfort in the fact that I loaded my save from the first game, and every time they talk about that Dalish Elf who became the Hero and Fereldan and survived, well I feel a little bit better because I made that happen, LOL.

Anyways, as soon as this whole directx 11 business gets sorted out, I will be much happier, but in the mean time, I play it on directx 9 mode and am content.

And about the low metacritic scores from users, all of those are troll reviews, that are getting put up and marked as helpful by trolls from a 4chan raid or something, there as been other talk about it, so by all means do not take the metacritic user ratings as a marker for the game.

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I'm pretty disappointed with the amount of copy paste in this game. I'm sure I've gone into the same cave 3 times for different quests.

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Dewnis wrote...

I'd say DA:2 is still a superb title. It's far better than most games.

But as always with sequals people expect too much and then bash on EVERYTHING that isn't exactly as in the first game. In a month or two when all the crying and disappointment has died down and people try the game for what it is the player reviews will go up.


Also did i miss something? All these people claiming you have to click all the time in combat? You don't have to click any more than in the first one as far as i've noticed. You select an enemy and your character strikes for you all you have to do is use skills, just like in the first one.



When you look at the Halo Trilogy...yes there have been changes following each game release, but did the core gameplay change? NO...We were right o have certain expectations regarding Dragon Age 2 and they were most definitely not met to the chagrin of Dragon Age: Origins lovers all around.

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Fact: Dragon Age 2 is awesome cept for a lackluster ending.
Fact: If you think the gameplay was a button masher and easy.. You are an idiot. Stop playing on normal you idiots and bump it up if its to easy.

All I expect from dragon age 3 is the same thing cept for a better ending and a dedicate PC version.

PS. Stop pretending to be rpg eliteist if your not even playing on Nightmare.

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ThorodinHawke wrote...

How to improve DA III take step back in the boring direction of gameplay(sarcasm).... The stories in both games are epic(warden slightly better) but DA II gameplay is better, and the only reason why theres less skills is because they put lock picking and etc in attributes which i like. I wish i can learn that tear them apart spell....

Please Bioware if anything stay in this direction, people live in the past wanting repeated gameplay of watchin ur character do stuff like a mmo....or better yet find common ground that im fine with too keeps the people from whining and complaining....like WKC2 gameplay thats mix between action and classic. I want both sides to be happy but if u go back to DA:O gameplay u'll have the same problem but with the other side....



Yes Bioware, please recycle the same maps, the same repetitive click click click click gameplay for Dragon Age 3, the bland incoherent environments and graphics. I will be enjoying other games faraway as I watch the nuke which will be Dragon Age 3 implode taking all the hapless sinners, ignorant and innocent souls who buy that game.  However, everyone HAS a choice.  You can choose to change or you can continue down the same path if you think it best.  I'll be waiting and watching from the shadows.

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I can't think of any RPG that isn't a clickfest, not that theres anything wrong with that in the first place. I thought DA2 was a superb game. The only thing I'm miffed about are the recycled areas.

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Painronamic wrote...

ThorodinHawke wrote...

How to improve DA III take step back in the boring direction of gameplay(sarcasm).... The stories in both games are epic(warden slightly better) but DA II gameplay is better, and the only reason why theres less skills is because they put lock picking and etc in attributes which i like. I wish i can learn that tear them apart spell....

Please Bioware if anything stay in this direction, people live in the past wanting repeated gameplay of watchin ur character do stuff like a mmo....or better yet find common ground that im fine with too keeps the people from whining and complaining....like WKC2 gameplay thats mix between action and classic. I want both sides to be happy but if u go back to DA:O gameplay u'll have the same problem but with the other side....



Yes Bioware, please recycle the same maps, the same repetitive click click click click gameplay for Dragon Age 3, the bland incoherent environments and graphics. I will be enjoying other games faraway as I watch the nuke which will be Dragon Age 3 implode taking all the hapless sinners, ignorant and innocent souls who buy that game.  However, everyone HAS a choice.  You can choose to change or you can continue down the same path if you think it best.  I'll be waiting and watching from the shadows.

Are you high? What click click gameplay? Its one click for selection then keyboard for abilities.

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Outsource to Obsidian. At this point I don't think Bioware is capable of making a decent RPG anymore.

Did you guys fire all the writers who didn't agree to making a half ass plot without any strong driving force so you could break up the game into DLCs to be resode later or something?

Modifié par Ilikered, 11 mars 2011 - 04:12 .


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Returnofboom wrote...

Painronamic wrote...

Yes Bioware, please recycle the same maps, the same repetitive click click click click gameplay for Dragon Age 3, the bland incoherent environments and graphics. I will be enjoying other games faraway as I watch the nuke which will be Dragon Age 3 implode taking all the hapless sinners, ignorant and innocent souls who buy that game.  However, everyone HAS a choice.  You can choose to change or you can continue down the same path if you think it best.  I'll be waiting and watching from the shadows.

Are you high? What click click gameplay? Its one click for selection then keyboard for abilities.


Think he was being sarcastic lol

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DA2 as a game is not too bad. It is not, however, a proper RPG nor a good sequel to the first.

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I find this post particularly amusing. To the point of smiling uncontrollably. First, a declaration of preference (same combat as DA: O). Second, an accusation of milking the franchise. So, you have a problem with Bioware milking the franchise, yet you want the game to play the same way with no changes. What lovely irony. Even more humourous is that DA2 gives you exactly want you want in terms of combat. It's the same gameplay with more tactics and polish.

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Returnofboom wrote...

Painronamic wrote...

ThorodinHawke wrote...

How to improve DA III take step back in the boring direction of gameplay(sarcasm).... The stories in both games are epic(warden slightly better) but DA II gameplay is better, and the only reason why theres less skills is because they put lock picking and etc in attributes which i like. I wish i can learn that tear them apart spell....

Please Bioware if anything stay in this direction, people live in the past wanting repeated gameplay of watchin ur character do stuff like a mmo....or better yet find common ground that im fine with too keeps the people from whining and complaining....like WKC2 gameplay thats mix between action and classic. I want both sides to be happy but if u go back to DA:O gameplay u'll have the same problem but with the other side....



Yes Bioware, please recycle the same maps, the same repetitive click click click click gameplay for Dragon Age 3, the bland incoherent environments and graphics. I will be enjoying other games faraway as I watch the nuke which will be Dragon Age 3 implode taking all the hapless sinners, ignorant and innocent souls who buy that game.  However, everyone HAS a choice.  You can choose to change or you can continue down the same path if you think it best.  I'll be waiting and watching from the shadows.

Are you high? What click click gameplay? Its one click for selection then keyboard for abilities.



Not when your character pauses in stupor when your enemy moves to another target...you've gotta click again :)

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Painronamic wrote...

Not when your character pauses in stupor when your enemy moves to another target...you've gotta click again :)


Ugh, I hate that.  Happens all the time when they all go swarming at whoever's tanking.  The other one that annoys the @#$% out of me is when your character's heading over to attack someone and blocks an arrow on the way....and stops dead, having completely forgotten what they were supposed to be doing.  I've also noticed that a lot of times the command won't take.  You'll whack 'em once and, just sit there until either they hit you back or you click 'em again.

Oh, and BTW, all that stuff above?  Yeah, I'm talking about DA:O there.

Modifié par didymos1120, 11 mars 2011 - 04:55 .


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theres alot of trolling from people who clearly havent even played it . Seems excellent to me.

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RGDekta wrote...

Returnofboom wrote...

Painronamic wrote...

Yes Bioware, please recycle the same maps, the same repetitive click click click click gameplay for Dragon Age 3, the bland incoherent environments and graphics. I will be enjoying other games faraway as I watch the nuke which will be Dragon Age 3 implode taking all the hapless sinners, ignorant and innocent souls who buy that game.  However, everyone HAS a choice.  You can choose to change or you can continue down the same path if you think it best.  I'll be waiting and watching from the shadows.

Are you high? What click click gameplay? Its one click for selection then keyboard for abilities.


Think he was being sarcastic lol


xD lol doesn't change the fact that I most likely won't buy da 3.  Gonna wait till the ****storm clears out and see Bioware's response if their word still has any credibility left - dragon age-wise...

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didymos1120 wrote...

Painronamic wrote...

Not when your character pauses in stupor when your enemy moves to another target...you've gotta click again :)


Ugh, I hate that.  Happens all the time when they all go swarming at whoever's tanking.  The other one that annoys the @#$% out of me is when your character's heading over to attack someone and blocks an arrow on the way....and stops dead, having completely forgotten what they were supposed to be doing.  I've also noticed that a lot of times the command won't take.  You'll whack 'em once and, just sit there until either they hit you back or you click 'em again.

Oh, and BTW, all that stuff above?  Yeah, I'm talking about DA:O there.


Well...clearly they haven't learned from their mistakes in DA:O then.  Cuz it's happening in DA2

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I am a huge fan of Origins. I am (now) also a huge fan of DA2. I have not finished the game yet (I'm trying to savor the experience.), but I have immensely enjoyed it so far. My only qualms are recycled areas and the limited companion interaction. The latter is epsecially frustrating/dishearteniing/annoying, as is was my favorite part of origins.

I am keeping an open mind and I look forward to all this game has to offer, which so far, in my opinion, is quite a bit.

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Played about 5 hours so far and I'm not liking it at all. Got a PS3 version. Graphics look extremely dated. I mean, if you are making a game targeted for consoles, shouldn't you be at least trying to use the capabilities of those consoles? Animations are lackluster, seems like there were more animations in first DA:O to be honest. A lot of clippings, light glitches, basically looks like a very poor job.

**SOME SPOILERS**

Design is also very disappointing. Between recycled dungeons and bland, boring environments I haven't found anything even remotely memorable. I had this complaint about the first Dragon Age, how grey and uninteresting the world looked, but this one actually looks many times worse.

But what bothers me the most is the story: so far, five hours into the game, I don't care about it at all. Not about any characters, any events, even Hawke. DA:O had great, emotional moments even in character prologues. I remember in Human prologue, when I woke up to find the castle under attack and my sister and nephew murdered - I was genuinely depressed. In DA2, when Hawke's brother died during prologue, I couldn't bring myself to care. Just shows how vastly different the writing is for this game.

I remember how almost every major quest in the first game forced the player to make some very difficult choices, really made you think about where you stand. I found nothing like this in DA2 so far. It's straightforward, obvious and, again, boring.

As far as game mechanics go, I can't honestly say that DA2 is better overall. It's nice to have abilities which don't miss 80% of the time, and it's also nice to have abilities that actually have a tangible effect, not the kind of "-20 to target's armor". But all these improvements end up being meaningless - because the way the game presents fights is by spamming waves upon waves of weak opponents right on top of your group. That was the worst encounter design I've ever seen.

Oh, and what is with making me press the button for every swing?! This would be important for a fighting game, where you have direction hits, timing-based combos and such, but in RPG - it's just plain silly.

Modifié par Lexagg, 11 mars 2011 - 06:49 .


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Well, it's sure that if people expected an " improved " version of DA:O... then it's a fail. But if you take the game without considerating DA:O, then i think it's not the bad game everybody say it to be. I've seen more of my share of crappy game and i don't think i wasted my money when i bought the game. Even if the story and t he caracters is not as deep as i hoped, it's still enjoyable.

My biggest concerne about it come from the pegi 18. When i saw that, i was sure the game would be a little more mature than DA:O... well exepted for some massive blood effect and some " **** " from time to time... well.... nothing so far. But still, don't flame the game. even if IMO it should have not been called dragon age 2, more something like dragon age : herauld

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misterdde wrote...

Well, it's sure that if people expected an " improved " version of DA:O... then it's a fail. But if you take the game without considerating DA:O, then i think it's not the bad game everybody say it to be. I've seen more of my share of crappy game and i don't think i wasted my money when i bought the game. Even if the story and t he caracters is not as deep as i hoped, it's still enjoyable.

My biggest concerne about it come from the pegi 18. When i saw that, i was sure the game would be a little more mature than DA:O... well exepted for some massive blood effect and some " **** " from time to time... well.... nothing so far. But still, don't flame the game. even if IMO it should have not been called dragon age 2, more something like dragon age : herauld


Even if you don't consider first game, DA2 is still not a good game. It's mediocre at best. There are worse games, yes, but there is also plenty of much better ones. Uninspiring story, boring combat and shallow characters can't make a good RPG. It's not outright bad, and maybe that's also a bad thing, because you can see how good it COULD be, it makes it even more of a let-down.

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Don't compare the game with D2 please, you are kidding right. D2 is probably played by more gamers today then DA2 will be sold on the PS3.

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DA2 should not have been marketed as the spiritual succesor to Dragon Age: Origins. People would have gotten the message and left. Yet people like to lie :)

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Don't ban people from playing the game just because they insulted you. YOU AINT GOT NO POKER FACE!

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