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[BTCentral]

As per the title, does anyone know if the "Enemies drop better equipment" attribute stacks?

Thanks!

[kaiki01]

Or, does anyone know if this even works?

[BTCentral]

kaiki01 wrote...

Or, does anyone know if this even works?

Yes, it definately seems to work.

It increases the quality of an enemy drop (so say for example you might get a bow with 28 damage instead of 26, and will likely have a better bonus attribute), there's also a small chance of an item gaining an extra property/bonus attribute.

I just don't know if the effect stacks or not

[shaneho78]

Interested to know this for 'drop more coin' items as well.

[BTCentral]

shaneho78 wrote...

Interested to know this for 'drop more coin' items as well.

The "drop more coin" stat definately does. One item with it gives 5% extra, two gives 10% extra, etc.

[shaneho78]

Only 5%? Can't believe i wasted an amulet slot for that. Thanks btw.

[BTCentral]

shaneho78 wrote...

Only 5%? Can't believe i wasted an amulet slot for that. Thanks btw.

No Problem.

[Harley_Dude]

Where do you get this enchantment? I have the more loot enchantment on Varric and wear a necklace with it on my character and it seems to provide a little more money. I still have tons of useless stuff from barrels and boxes.

Modifié par The Harley Dude, 11 mars 2011 - 07:58 .

[Margret Li]

Does the drop better item effect works on henchmen as well as myself? I currently have a string a pearls on Fenris for the coins. Just wanted to know if I am wasting my time on that?

[Cyocide]

Only 5%? Can't believe i wasted an amulet slot for that. Thanks btw.

I echoed your sentiment exactly when I read that post. =P I think I'll be switching back to the Attack/Health amulet. Or even a candy-necklace, seems more functional

[ShiverMeTimbers]

Few questions about this topic:

As another poster asked - Can I put this on another party member (not Hawke) and still get the effect?

Also, does the "more coin" effect trigger as you kill the enemy or as you loot it? So, for example, could I put on the necklace/belt/etc after the mobs are dead but before I loot them and get increased gold/loot?

Of course, I'm still curious if the 'better loot' benefit stacks, as well.

[BTCentral]

ShiverMeTimbers wrote...

As another poster asked - Can I put this on another party member (not Hawke) and still get the effect?

Also, does the "more coin" effect trigger as you kill the enemy or as you loot it? So, for example, could I put on the necklace/belt/etc after the mobs are dead but before I loot them and get increased gold/loot?

1) As far as I am aware, yes. However I've been using Hindsight on Hawke so far (which has this property).

2) No idea I am afraid, I would imagine as you kill it - but I may be completely wrong.

Modifié par BTCentral, 12 mars 2011 - 12:24 .

[Edge2177]

I wore 3 items with equipment drop buffs, and later when I got the champion armor I started getting nothing but crap so I'd say they work yeah. Hehe.

[Daiyuki]

As far I know for these kinds of effects, they are simply always in effect. I could be completely wrong, but unless I wasn't paying attention, I had only one +XP item equipped on anyone and that was Avelline, and I don't use her in my active party, yet I was getting odd XP gains like +204, which would account for a 2% increase and that happens to match the + 2% XP item. Don't know if it applies to other effects like +coin, but I can only assume it does, so stick them on inactive party members and try it out.

[Vaylemn]

BTCentral wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

Or, does anyone know if this even works?

Yes, it definately seems to work.

It increases the quality of an enemy drop (so say for example you might get a bow with 28 damage instead of 26, and will likely have a better bonus attribute), there's also a small chance of an item gaining an extra property/bonus attribute.

I just don't know if the effect stacks or not

How do you know it works? How does it work? Do you have to be the one who killed the enemy or it can be anyone from your party as long as one person wears the "enemies drop better equip" enchantment?

[BTCentral]

Vaylemn wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

kaiki01 wrote...

Or, does anyone know if this even works?

Yes, it definately seems to work.

It increases the quality of an enemy drop (so say for example you might get a bow with 28 damage instead of 26, and will likely have a better bonus attribute), there's also a small chance of an item gaining an extra property/bonus attribute.

I just don't know if the effect stacks or not

How do you know it works? How does it work? Do you have to be the one who killed the enemy or it can be anyone from your party as long as one person wears the "enemies drop better equip" enchantment?

I know it works from playing the game both with and without Hindsight (which has this attribute) and it works as described above - which is pretty much taken from the stategy guide. The guide also mentioned the drop more coin bonus stacking but did not say either way for this.

From what I have heard, anyone in your party can wear it - some people have even said they do not have to be in your active party, though I have no idea if that is true or not.

Modifié par BTCentral, 13 mars 2011 - 05:02 .

[vas1444]

I've done limited testing of this.. Two separate runs through deep roads (end of act 1) one with gauntlets of the nug (gives equipment bonus) and one without.. Items I've got were identical.

[ArcticPunk]

ShiverMeTimbers wrote...

As another poster asked - Can I put this on another party member (not Hawke) and still get the effect?

Also, does the "more coin" effect trigger as you kill the enemy or as you loot it? So, for example, could I put on the necklace/belt/etc after the mobs are dead but before I loot them and get increased gold/loot?

Yes you get the effect if you equip the more coin effect after kill but before loot - If you quicksave before looting you can test out the effects of the necklace.

In one instance I had 5 "enemies drop more coin" items for a total of 25% increase.

With the increase I got 16 silver 55 copper

Without I got something around 13 silver and some odd copper

So the more coin definitely stacks and you can apply the effect after you kill but before you loot.

Haven't tested out the enemies drop better equipment but I think if you use the same method you can probably figure it out.

oh and I don't know if it's been answered or not yet but you can equip characters other than the character that is looting and still gain the loot bonus from more coins, probably the same for better equipment but not 100% sure.

Modifié par ArcticPunk, 15 mars 2011 - 05:13 .

[lenkite]

A bit of a waste isn't it ? I mean stacking 5 such items to get a 25% increase ? Unless, you want to micro by killing all enemies first and then looting them later at the end

[Jazharah]

I'm still trying to figure out why it would be good for enemies to drop better equipment, since the only equipment that seems to be worth wearing is either store-bought or a unique item of which the stats are already set. Enemies generally drop vendor trash :/

[Kaigen42]

Jazharah wrote...

I'm still trying to figure out why it would be good for enemies to drop better equipment, since the only equipment that seems to be worth wearing is either store-bought or a unique item of which the stats are already set. Enemies generally drop vendor trash :/

YMMV, but I found myself regularly equipping myself and my companions with dropped trinkets, and Anders and Merill both used dropped staves until late in Act III, though that probably has as much to do with my unwillingness to spend money on my companions (aside from armor upgrades) as anything. "Enemies drop better equipment" keeps you better equipped while you gather the gold or work your way through the quests that drop unique items. Especially if you're stingy like me and don't buy any equipment until Act III

[SuicidalBaby]

spaceweaver wrote...

A bit of a waste isn't it ? I mean stacking 5 such items to get a 25% increase ? Unless, you want to micro by killing all enemies first and then looting them later at the end

25% increase over 3 acts is alot of coin.

[Su-do]

vas1444 wrote...

I've done limited testing of this.. Two separate runs through deep roads (end of act 1) one with gauntlets of the nug (gives equipment bonus) and one without.. Items I've got were identical.

Thing is, items are generated upon load up of the zone, not when you kill them, or when you open a chest.

At least my testing seems to confirm this.

I saved outside of teh dragon lair in wounded coast act 2, and did 7 different run throughs (kill 3 spiders), then run in and loot the piles of treasure.

I did this a few times as well after I had saved inside the zone before looting. The loot was identical when this occured.

It took me 5 attempts before I received anything good from the treasure horde.

I did not test this without the better equipment dropping necklace Varric has on off so unsure as to that.

But as far as I can tell, again, loot is generated as you zone into a specific region and stays static unless you re-load to a save prior to zoning in and zone back in.

[WJC3688]

shaneho78 wrote...

Only 5%? Can't believe i wasted an amulet slot for that. Thanks btw.

I don't think I'd dismiss the effect so quickly.  As another poster already mentioned you can stack this up to 25% which is a pretty big boost in total gold available if you apply it consistently throughout the game.  Consider that you can get gold into the hundreds before using any runes of fortune.  Let's say for the sake of example that you can make 300g throughout the game--if even a third of that comes from looting, then spamming runes of fortune and getting +25% on it would be +25 gold by game's end.

I think you could easily get the effect higher than 25%, as well.  For starters Lady Rosamund's Bulwark (unique shield from Emporium) has 3 rune slots which already gets you halfway to 30% with one item, granted it costs some amount of gold itself, but I imagine the extra runes of fortune would make up the difference over the course of the game.  On top of that, I've already found a unique necklace with the "Drop more coin" effect, you can acquire rune slots on both Hawke's armor and most companions' armor, and if you have more than 1 warrior I'm sure there's another shield out there with a rune slot or two on it.

[ArcticPunk]

WJC3688 wrote...

shaneho78 wrote...

Only 5%? Can't believe i wasted an amulet slot for that. Thanks btw.

I don't think I'd dismiss the effect so quickly.  As another poster already mentioned you can stack this up to 25% which is a pretty big boost in total gold available if you apply it consistently throughout the game.  Consider that you can get gold into the hundreds before using any runes of fortune.  Let's say for the sake of example that you can make 300g throughout the game--if even a third of that comes from looting, then spamming runes of fortune and getting +25% on it would be +25 gold by game's end.

I think you could easily get the effect higher than 25%, as well.  For starters Lady Rosamund's Bulwark (unique shield from Emporium) has 3 rune slots which already gets you halfway to 30% with one item, granted it costs some amount of gold itself, but I imagine the extra runes of fortune would make up the difference over the course of the game.  On top of that, I've already found a unique necklace with the "Drop more coin" effect, you can acquire rune slots on both Hawke's armor and most companions' armor, and if you have more than 1 warrior I'm sure there's another shield out there with a rune slot or two on it.

This.

right now I'm at like 60% coin increase.

3 rune of fortune in Aveline's shield
1 rune of fortune in Aveline's armor
2 rune of fortune in Varric's armor
2 accessories on Varric
4 rune of fortune on Hawk

I'm playing on Hard difficulty and I don't really find myself needing the best gear with the best stat boosting armor runes to get through the game and if I did I could always switch gear and then switch back to the coin increasing gear to loot.

Also as a side note Shaneho78 is right about the warrior shield, The Amell Shield has 2 slots and it's one of the best shields in Act 2, so if you're a warrior you can get atelast 70% coin increase in Act 2.

Modifié par ArcticPunk, 16 mars 2011 - 03:33 .