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[Eruonen]

Celrath wrote...

I read the article and it seems that someone here actually had to report that he said that through that little red button. So, why to go BioWare fans....lol

Its only three days and he can still play the game he just cant access his DLC that is all. not really a big deal, at least I don't think so.

I'm sure a mod could have reported him to EA too, but you're right: there's a big chance it was someone on the forums.
However, the person who reported him is not to blame for EA's actions. They could've suspected a forum suspension and a post deletion, but not that their game would be disabled.

[HoonDing]

This is madness.

[Swordfishtrombone]

I have to say that if what the OP says is true, and this is what happened, then talk about overkill! EA has made a serious mistake here. If I was in the OP's shoes, there'd be a poop-storm, as public as I could get it about it.

If you have to walk on egg-shells in an effort not to anger the big brother around here, then although I am not prone to particularly offensive comments, I see reason to limit my participation in these forums to the minimum. Certainly watching your every word for the fear of not being able to play your games again is not enjoyable.

[The Potty 1]

You could use different email addresses to register games and log onto forums.
Or buy games through steam, register them, then set it to offline mode.

[Terraneaux]

Every time EA bans a paying customer, a pirate hoists his first flag...

[The Potty 1]

um, what's a dlc? Never mind, got it, Dalian Zhoushuizi International Airport. Wow, shutting down an airport's pretty harsh.

Ooooh, suppose DLC could also be, naah, who would care if their downloadable content got disabled.

[FlintlockJazz]

Celrath wrote...

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I read the article and it seems that someone here actually had to report that he said that through that little red button. So, why to go BioWare fans....lol

Its only three days and he can still play the game he just cant access his DLC that is all. not really a big deal, at least I don't think so.

So you think it's fine that he can no longer access the dlc he has legally paid for?  Wow, the corporations must love people like you...

[Terraneaux]

Celrath wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...



So you think it's fine that he can no longer access the dlc he has legally paid for?  Wow, the corporations must love people like you...

No its not okay and that clearly a flaw in the way the DLC is accesed off the Social site. But It is still only three days. Its not like they said thanks for the money now you'll never play the game. It was only three days. What are you going to do? Three days is no big deal.  

There should never be a reason for them to stop you playing the game, for 3 days or 3 hours.  

[Juqu]

Celrath wrote...


No ones stoping him from playing the game just the DLC. Also it
would seem he is not being honest about his Ban. It most likely has
something to do with comments said here
a lot of which were deleted. but you can kind of get the gist of what
happened. So yeah.

and once again he can still play the game
just can't get the bonus items tied to his EA account.

are
you sure about that?
after all he wrote:

vware wrote...
This is the deal. I just got my Bioware Signature Edition from the
store. I allready knew I was going to play it without the extra content
since I can't activate my extra codes. What I did not know was that I
needed to activate the game before being abble to play it. So now I've
got a dead game for 50 euros. Pity.

Modifié par Juqu, 11 mars 2011 - 12:00 .

[Juqu]

Double post

Modifié par Juqu, 11 mars 2011 - 11:57 .

[vometia]

This topic's been rather interesting reading, and very alarming too. All things considered, I think I should perhaps keep any further comments about principles or lack thereof to myself.

[graymocker]

Well, this story is making the rounds. At first it was just the big MMO blogs, but now RockPaperShotgun has done a piece:
http://www.rockpaper...mes/#more-53640

ps Bioware: Don't ban me bro.

[ruzan00]

Shame

Modifié par ruzan00, 11 mars 2011 - 01:42 .

[vometia]

ruzan00 wrote...

Shame

I preferred your pre-edit remark.

[Shazzam6999]

This is extremely disappointing. Bioware is one of the few companies that creates games I thoroughly enjoy, and normally I'm more than happy to fork over $60 for their games. I've been on the fence about DA2, but now I have no intention of buying DA2 or any other Bioware games for a while.

[jmwtech]

The Potty 1 wrote...

You could use different email addresses to register games and log onto forums.
Or buy games through steam, register them, then set it to offline mode.

But you can't post is some forums unless your game registration si paired with your social account.

http://social.biowar.../6/index/783904

[Robhask]

Just read the original thread and this one. To me, it seems like shutting down activations because of forum postings is a great incentive for people to post things elsewhere, but what do I know. Nobody does social networking better than EA, so I'll leave it to their creative genius to figure it out.

Anyway, I thought I'd toss my two cents in.

1. I'm pretty sure I own ME1 by this point, but if EA starts feeling like it's acceptable -- for any reason -- to deny a legitimate activation, then I'll always look at ME2 and kind of wonder about it. It's not a secret that EA already sees yesterday's games as being in competition with today's games. I don't want the question of product activation to suddenly become negotiable, not from a company like that. And yes, I know it was a temporary ban. Go to the wayback machine and see what happened to all of 2005's temporary little inconveniences.

2. It has been pointed out ad infinitum that you never own software, you just license it. But how many people really believe that the fine print in those licenses ("EA reserves the right to terminate the license for any or no reason, to suspend user upside-down above a toilet bowl and flush, etc. etc.") serves any real purpose? They're acceptable only for as long as they're irrelevant. If people start seeing arbitrary-looking things like closing out activations because of hurt feelings, they might actually start reading those stupid agreements. This would be bad for EA, because boiled down, they all look something like "In exchange for $60, you will get what's in the box, some portion thereof, or nothing at all. Ha ha ha."

3. I'm not sure what the problem is with making comparisons between EA and the Devil in the first place. Obviously they can shut these posts down if they want to, but whose point does this prove, exactly?

Edit: I misspelled infinitum. That bothers me way more than it should.

Modifié par Robhask, 11 mars 2011 - 06:19 .

[raelik777]

I actually posted about the illegality of their enforcement of this clause, and after reading more carefully, the illegality of the clause itself. This can be viewed as a physical reprisal against free speech, and a violation of the first-sale doctrine as well. Regardless of EULA, they do NOT have the right to restrict you from using the product you've purchased. In the case of an ONLINE game, certainly they are within their rights to restrict access to their services, in essence to protect the other users of that service. But this isn't about an online game.

[raelik777]

I'd really, really love to see this go to court. It is true that there are certain allowances on definition of terms in a EULA for restricting how the first-sale doctrine can be applied. BUT, I can guarantee that this part of the agreement would either be considered a contract of adhesion, unconscientious, or a violation of the U.C.C.

[DukeOfNukes]

Celrath wrote...

No ones stoping him from playing the game just the DLC.

I dunno about DA2...but in DAO, you couldn't play the game if you had the DLC and weren't connected to the internet. You got a message saying that the game requires premium content, and must be connected to the internet. That means any games you've already started are off limits.

[ILoveTsundere]

Stop being so negative about Bioware.

End Of Line.

(OMG, IM SO COOL)