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[Keele]

mpxlbs wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

mpxlbs wrote...

Having been a grown up for quite some time now, I can safely say that part of being a grown up is to let childish remarks like the OP's comment not come off as an insult, but instead focus on what it is, a childish remark.

Letting things go is part of being an adult. Try that too.
Also, please excuse my lack of proper english skills. It's my third language. If you find any faults and would like to critize, please bring something constructive with it.

Thanks, and have a good day.

I was being constructive in my reply hence why I went into why and such ion response, may I mention you called me a ****** so as for being childish it seems to slope the other way.

Ever heard the quote "Do as I say, but not as I do"? It's exactly that. Everybody has double standards. To be fair though, I'm not trying to offend you here, I sincerely stand by my comment and I was being quite honest about it, althought I should have narrowed it down a bit. It's just in this thread. I don't know any of your other posts. You've gotten alot of users riled up for a reason, and it's not for playing "nice".

Why would anybody do as you say when you bring forth a bad example of yourself?

[Aurgelmir]

Iwasdrunkbro wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Solistus1 wrote...

There's a general boycott of all EA games brewing over this on other gaming communities. If there isn't an announcement *tomorrow morning* apologizing profusely and reversing this policy, I'll be joining it. This is outrageous.  I thought the gaming industry couldn't get any more evil when they started loading games with DRM that would prevent new installations after a limited number and required constant 'phoning home' just to play the game single player, but this is orders of magnitude worse.  Reserving the right to take away my access to products I paid for based on nebulous-at-best forum guidelines that apparently ban sarcastic comments critical of the company that contain no profanity, personal attacks or anything else of that sort...  Nope, not a chance I'm paying $60 for *that* licensing agreement.

No such thing is happening, a few sites and forums and tweets will not change anything.

Tell that to Egypt.

Aw snap.

[Dragoonlordz]

Oslegend wrote...

MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful

A mod said earlier in a different thread that you can be banned from the game for being banned from forums.

People like you make not swearing very hard. 

You could be banned from any game for many years now, you also have the freedom to get such bans overturned.
Creating a fictional revolution isn't going to happen not now and not in the near future.

Practically no dent in sales will occur over this and time will prove me right on that. People have a habit of going into fits or rage over things from time to time and others stir it up, lots of /v/ and others are currently doing the latter while only a few actual Bioware gamers are doing the former.

[TheNerevarine]

This will affect my future purchasing decisions, regardless of the probability of the policy effecting me personally.

Modifié par TheNerevarine, 11 mars 2011 - 06:42 .

[MColes]

I love that there is actually no proof that vvare and v_vare are the same person. If you look at V_vare (The alleged ACTUAL account) he has no threads which have been locked, or forum posts that even seem inclined to being reportable. This whole bloody thing is probably faked, by some troll to cause issues for BioWare, since the game is selling and all the internet badasses realize that screwing with the metacritic user ratings doesn't mean, or do jack-all.

[Joshd21]

17thknight wrote...

Joshd21 wrote...

[snip]

So you're saying we should be required to register our games to post here, knowing that if we say 1 negative thing about Bioware or EA our ability to play those games can be permanently revoked? You, please, take your fanboism and ****** off.

Look at you for example. You do not have any registered games! I was suspended not too long ago. And you know what? I was still able to log in the game and play just fine! perhaps it's because EA is the person who did the banning. Yet I have felt the ban for 24 hours and there was no problem with me able to log into the DA2 during this time and play.

People have sparked outrage about Bioware before, they simply lock the threads and yes if they do ban someone it's only for 24 hours! however in this EA is the one who banned him and that is for 3 days!, not even a ful week. No amount of nerd raging is going to get this settled. Because if it does, then that opens the door for anyone with any type of suspended account to rage, spam and they will be unbanned.

Let me repeat, if Bioware bans you it's for 24 hours max! and you are still able to play their game. I don't know about EA!, however you wouldn't have this problem if you simply did not say bad things about them. Even if you do and get banned like I did last night, it will only last a few days.

The devs here interact with us daily, unlike any other gaming place and now they are taking the blame for EA's actions. You are blaming the wrong party. Bioware created Dragon Age Orgins, DA2, Mass Effect 1-2-3 and SWTOR MMO which are by far the best games

I have ever played. Yet you cause them all this stress because a single lone gamer shot off his mouth about EA got suspended for 72 hours and creates several accounts and spams so it's okay? Please get over yourself. His ban will not be removed, in fact he is in violation of further haressment, fighting, spamming, rude posts. You should know no other website would have this kind of tolerance or been so reasonable, now you are taking advantage so please leave and allow us to talk about DA in pace.

Not everyone feels the same way he doe.He creates so many accounts, and spams the borads because Bioware doesn't force the person to verify the account or register any games to post.  Now he's beeing a little upset. who doesn't get what they want unable to control themsevles. He is just runing his rep and discrediting himself with spamming these fourms.

[17thknight]

MColes wrote...

I love that there is actually no proof that vvare and v_vare are the same person. If you look at V_vare (The alleged ACTUAL account) he has no threads which have been locked, or forum posts that even seem inclined to being reportable. This whole bloody thing is probably faked, by some troll to cause issues for BioWare, since the game is selling and all the internet badasses realize that screwing with the metacritic user ratings doesn't mean, or do jack-all.

Stanley's not arguing the point at all. In fact, he flat-out said the company can and will do this to people. THAT'S the issue, that they can and will do this.

Also, I'm pretty damn sure the moderator of a forum can see people's IP addresses, and I'm pretty damn sure he could tell if they're the same person in about 3 clicks of a mouse.

[epiccrabs]

17thknight wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
No such thing is happening, a few sites and forums and tweets will not change anything.

No, people like you cause nothing to change. You see something abhorrent and you do nothing about it. You just shrug and continue to funnel money to companies you hate. That's awful.

I was, quite literally 2 hours ago, contemplating buying ME and ME2 on the PC  just to play through them again (I traded in my xbox copies long ago). I put them on my Steam wishlist earlier tonight to think about it. Now i have removed them. 

Sure, it's only $40, and that's a pittance to me and Bioware, but it's one more pittance that they don't have.

It sure helps that people who have old forum accounts can comprehend what's happening. Unlike dragoonlordz here who five or so pages earlier kept on calling people who stated their opinions : NICE JOIN DATE

[Oslegend]

MColes wrote...

I love that there is actually no proof that vvare and v_vare are the same person. If you look at V_vare (The alleged ACTUAL account) he has no threads which have been locked, or forum posts that even seem inclined to being reportable. This whole bloody thing is probably faked, by some troll to cause issues for BioWare, since the game is selling and all the internet badasses realize that screwing with the metacritic user ratings doesn't mean, or do jack-all.

same goes for you smartass, one of their staff confirmed that yo can be banned from the game if banned from forums.

[17thknight]

Joshd21 wrote...



Look at you for example. You do not have any registered games!

So what? I've owned every Bioware/Black Isle game since Baldur's Gate was first published (I bought it that very week). The only one I dont' own (although I've played it) is DA2. Hell, I didn't even know what registering games was on this site until earlier tonight.

What possible validity does registering give to anyone's thoughts? And you can be DAMN sure I won't be registering anything now.

[VanTesla]

17thknight wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
No such thing is happening, a few sites and forums and tweets will not change anything.

No, people like you cause nothing to change. You see something abhorrent and you do nothing about it. You just shrug and continue to funnel money to companies you hate. That's awful.

I was, quite literally 2 hours ago, contemplating buying ME and ME2 on the PC  just to play through them again (I traded in my xbox copies long ago). I put them on my Steam wishlist earlier tonight to think about it. Now i have removed them. 

Sure, it's only $40, and that's a pittance to me and Bioware, but it's one more pittance that they don't have.

I agree about not doing anything will change nothing.

[Dragoonlordz]

Aurgelmir wrote...

Iwasdrunkbro wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Solistus1 wrote...

There's a general boycott of all EA games brewing over this on other gaming communities. If there isn't an announcement *tomorrow morning* apologizing profusely and reversing this policy, I'll be joining it. This is outrageous.  I thought the gaming industry couldn't get any more evil when they started loading games with DRM that would prevent new installations after a limited number and required constant 'phoning home' just to play the game single player, but this is orders of magnitude worse.  Reserving the right to take away my access to products I paid for based on nebulous-at-best forum guidelines that apparently ban sarcastic comments critical of the company that contain no profanity, personal attacks or anything else of that sort...  Nope, not a chance I'm paying $60 for *that* licensing agreement.

No such thing is happening, a few sites and forums and tweets will not change anything.

Tell that to Egypt.

Aw snap.

Your dilusional if you think either Bioware or EA are going to crumble from this... Seriously some common sense.

This isn't a dictatorship where your family members being killed for speaking out against the state, no it's a single person got suspended from a game. Keyword for you there a "game". People need to grow up and stop treating every single action as an afront to their very existance. This ranting and raving will change nothing I will promise you that, just as it never has with any other case in the history that EULAs have existed. You don't like how it treats you, your free to leave if you feel that strongly do so. But in doing so why are you still here moaning like some self proclaimed bringer of all things right and wrong.  Just go if you no longer wish to support or buy or play these games anymore.

[MColes]

epiccrabs wrote...

MColes wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful

Have you even read that thread? JEBUS, have some reading comprehension men. He even posted his profile that stated he was banned from playing the game, furthermore Stanley even said that it is IN their TOS to get banned from playing the game.

That's funny cause I did.  Have you actually LOOKED at the account that was linked? Read the posts THAT account made?

Have you not comprehended it yet? Did Stanley denied what happened? Did he call the guy a liar? Nope, he said it clearly that it's within their TOS and he deserved it so LOCK
/argument

Really? That's what Stanley said?  Or did he infact only link to the TOS, and highlight the applicable rules, and then asked the poster to contact him through private messages.  AFTER WHICH, we've heard absolutely nothing from the account.

[epiccrabs]

Joshd21 wrote...

17thknight wrote...

Joshd21 wrote...

[snip]

So you're saying we should be required to register our games to post here, knowing that if we say 1 negative thing about Bioware or EA our ability to play those games can be permanently revoked? You, please, take your fanboism and ****** off.

Look at you for example. You do not have any registered games! I was suspended not too long ago. And you know what? I was still able to log in the game and play just fine! perhaps it's because EA is the person who did the banning. Yet I have felt the ban for 24 hours and there was no problem with me able to log into the DA2 during this time and play.

People have sparked outrage about Bioware before, they simply lock the threads and yes if they do ban someone it's only for 24 hours! however in this EA is the one who banned him and that is for 3 days!, not even a ful week. No amount of nerd raging is going to get this settled. Because if it does, then that opens the door for anyone with any type of suspended account to rage, spam and they will be unbanned.

Let me repeat, if Bioware bans you it's for 24 hours max! and you are still able to play their game. I don't know about EA!, however you wouldn't have this problem if you simply did not say bad things about them. Even if you do and get banned like I did last night, it will only last a few days.

The devs here interact with us daily, unlike any other gaming place and now they are taking the blame for EA's actions. You are blaming the wrong party. Bioware created Dragon Age Orgins, DA2, Mass Effect 1-2-3 and SWTOR MMO which are by far the best games

I have ever played. Yet you cause them all this stress because a single lone gamer shot off his mouth about EA got suspended for 72 hours and creates several accounts and spams so it's okay? Please get over yourself. His ban will not be removed, in fact he is in violation of further haressment, fighting, spamming, rude posts. You should know no other website would have this kind of tolerance or been so reasonable, now you are taking advantage so please leave and allow us to talk about DA in pace.

Not everyone feels the same way he doe.He creates so many accounts, and spams the borads because Bioware doesn't force the person to verify the account or register any games to post.  Now he's beeing a little upset. who doesn't get what they want unable to control themsevles. He is just runing his rep and discrediting himself with spamming these fourms.

So what if the devs interact with us? I'd rather have silent devs than devs who actually interacts with us then scampers and hide in their holes when they do something wrong. This is EA AND Bioware, there's a reason they're partners, it's not partnership if you're getting ordered around like a ****.

[Tamarzan]

Lol bioware...you guys are fuked. GG everybody, just go get the game .... somewhere else.

Modifié par Tamarzan, 11 mars 2011 - 06:47 .

[Aermas]

This rule is similar to what just happened in Wisconsin. They took away teacher Collective bargaining rights & banned them from trying to get them back

[17thknight]

Aermas wrote...

This rule is similar to what just happened
in Wisconsin. They took away teacher Collective bargaining rights &
banned them from trying to get them back

That's not even remotely the same thing. Leave IRL politics out of this lest it turn into a flame-fest.

Modifié par 17thknight, 11 mars 2011 - 06:49 .

[unlimited_sake]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Would of, could of, should of.. What a nice world you live in.. So many possabilities.

Nice join date.

Modifié par unlimited_sake, 11 mars 2011 - 06:48 .

[shnizzler93]

This is quite delicious indeed. Also, can't we argue our points of views without resorting to needless name-calling?

[Dragoonlordz]

17thknight wrote...

MColes wrote...

I love that there is actually no proof that vvare and v_vare are the same person. If you look at V_vare (The alleged ACTUAL account) he has no threads which have been locked, or forum posts that even seem inclined to being reportable. This whole bloody thing is probably faked, by some troll to cause issues for BioWare, since the game is selling and all the internet badasses realize that screwing with the metacritic user ratings doesn't mean, or do jack-all.

Stanley's not arguing the point at all. In fact, he flat-out said the company can and will do this to people. THAT'S the issue, that they can and will do this.

Also, I'm pretty damn sure the moderator of a forum can see people's IP addresses, and I'm pretty damn sure he could tell if they're the same person in about 3 clicks of a mouse.

Don't like the company or it's policies feel free to leave and not let the door hit you on the way out.
 

[micheal001]

I wonder what a person can do besides file a complaint. If the game has been paid for a person has a right to access it. My thinking is the ELUA from EA or Bioware has over stepped its legal limitation ro a consumers rights by forcing them to agree to the ELUA remaining in control of said game. even after its been paid for. File a complaint with the Ombudsman and BBB is a start

[Esau_of_Isaac]

Dragoonlordz, do you or do you not support banning an individual from use of already bought games because of an opinion of the game's developer/publisher?

If yes, you are a despicable and ignorant human being for supporting a malevolent business practice anyone with a brain would obviously work against. If no, you are at the least woefully misguided for defending a company despite such horrible behavior.

[Garak2]

17thknight wrote...

unlimited_sake wrote...

The original topic: http://social.biowar.../index/6459941/

For everyone just joining in, I repeat, the issue was never that the guy got temporarily banned, nor is it why.

What's at issue is this: is it okay for EA/Bioware to prevent someone from using a product he's already bought and paid $60 for, as well as any other products that may have been linked to his account, without refund because he posted something that they didn't like on their forums?

If so, what if the product cost $600? $6000? Where do you draw the line?

What's at issue is our rights as a consumer, and how this policy violates it.

Note that although he's only temporarily suspended, under the same rules that Stanley Woo cited in the link above, he could just as easily be permanently banned and lose access to all EA products he's bought that are associated with that account.

Indeed. Everyone defending this action must think it would be acceptable for Sony to show up at your house and take away your television after you bought it; GM to come take away your car after you paid for it; and for Coke to come stomach pump you and take back their soda after you drank it.

Glad I have a Jeep instead of a GM. Glad I am a Pepsi drinker but I do have a Sony TV.....

[17thknight]

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...

Dragoonlordz, do you or do you not support banning an individual from use of already bought games because of an opinion of the game's developer/publisher?

If yes, you are a despicable and ignorant human being for supporting a malevolent business practice anyone with a brain would obviously work against. If no, you are at the least woefully misguided for defending a company despite such horrible behavior.

Yes he does.

He thinks that if you put a political bumpersticker on your car that GM doesn't like they should have the right to remotely detonate a hidden explosive inside of the engine.

[epiccrabs]

MColes wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

MColes wrote...

epiccrabs wrote...

MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful

Have you even read that thread? JEBUS, have some reading comprehension men. He even posted his profile that stated he was banned from playing the game, furthermore Stanley even said that it is IN their TOS to get banned from playing the game.

That's funny cause I did.  Have you actually LOOKED at the account that was linked? Read the posts THAT account made?

Have you not comprehended it yet? Did Stanley denied what happened? Did he call the guy a liar? Nope, he said it clearly that it's within their TOS and he deserved it so LOCK
/argument

Really? That's what Stanley said?  Or did he infact only link to the TOS, and highlight the applicable rules, and then asked the poster to contact him through private messages.  AFTER WHICH, we've heard absolutely nothing from the account.

So is the TOS wrong? NOPE.JPG If It was indeed fake then why can't Stanley just say "Hey guys, no this incident did not happen and the rules that you get banned from playing the game is fake." But in reality what's happening is it indeed happened and will continue to happen. IF this incident was false how hard is it for the bioware guys to say "No guys, we do not ban you from playing the game even though you bought it and insulted us."