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#351
Joshd21

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.1.Let's just be clear, if you are banned on the fourms that doesn't mean you can't play the video game! there is tons of misinformation about this, let's say you create a bad posts. Boom, your banned but you can still log in all day and night on the game without any disturbing BUT the person in question DID NOT register the game BEFORE he started his rant that got him suspended for 72 hours!

So this whole fight, oh if your banned on the fourms, means your banned in game!, not true. Misinformation that is out there. There is an online check that is registered when you start up the game, after that you are home free. Let that rest in your mind for a moment, a ban on here, does not mean a ban in game. Everyone understand that?

2. What exactly is ths arugment about, a gamer claiming he can't play the game? why because he violated the rules before he got a chance to register the game! oh really so how long does he have to wait untill he registers the game? Umm about 72 hours!

3. The poster who has been banned has kept coming on this site creating post after post, several accounts and bashing the site. Once Mr. Woo figures out how to do the ISP(Internet Service Provider) ban. He won't be able to log into the site (Not on that PC anyways) but in the meantime he has created several threads, slamming the mods, mocking them, talked about getting the game from an illegal place and posted threads that would be considered haressment, threats etc. They should suspend his account for good.

Simply take your violation like a man and get over it. If you truely can not wait 3 days. Then you have too much time on your hands.

#352
angerman

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I feel for that guy. Someone posted this on Amazon...

Gah what happened to the thread where the damn auto attack file was left out of the build. QA!

#353
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Welcome to the next generation of gaming, where your voice isn't welcome.

#354
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joriandrake wrote...

17thknight wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

Glad I have a Jeep instead of a GM. Glad I am a Pepsi drinker but I do have a Sony TV.....


You had me :wub:.....


until you said Pepsi drinker :sick:


why? Pepsi is the best cola


It was thanks to a lot of Pepsi that I stopped the Blight. The darkspawn tried to serve me Coke but I was having none of it.

#355
joriandrake

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[quote]Stanley Woo wrote...

[quote]Esau_of_Isaac wrote...
Could you please give some word on the situation?
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The office is still closed, I'm still here to keep everything from exploding (which is easier now that I've left a thread open and those people posting racist caricatures and messages and wishing death on me have gone to bed), I'm still planning on notifying someone about the issue tomorrow morning, and this thread is still open.

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their problem is they think everythink is up to you :P


still, please make a stckied post on the issue as soon as possible so we know the outcome and calm the situation down (suggest sticky time for it for 3 days)

[quote]CrimsonKumiho wrote...


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... It is tomorrow morning for me.

[/quote]

heh, I am so much interested in the outcome that I didn't even sleep and I should already go to work soon

btw EU current presidency is with Hungary and I know
some folks who make laws and such this is why I am interested in the
outcome of this, as I may be able to suggest some changes depending on
it

Modifié par joriandrake, 11 mars 2011 - 07:17 .


#356
Goofy McCoy

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17thknight wrote...
Also: If no one's going to give you an official statement to make on this subject, go home and get some sleep.


THIS. Jesus man, I don't envy your position in this mess, but trying to hold the line against "The Internet" is a lose-lose.

Clock out, go outside, handle this tomorrow.

#357
night0205

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...
Could you please give some word on the situation?

The office is still closed, I'm still here to keep everything from exploding (which is easier now that I've left a thread open and those people posting racist caricatures and messages and wishing death on me have gone to bed), I'm still planning on notifying someone about the issue tomorrow morning, and this thread is still open.


Is that seriously your responsiblity or is it because you feel like you are responsible? Even if it does explode... I really don't see you able to do anything about it. You planning to go an all nighter?

#358
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A consumer who buys and pays for should have a right to play there game. To force people into a ELUA contract and take away access to said game exceeds a consumers rights. We aren't just players we are as well consumers. It would be the same as if a car dealer ship made you sign a outdated ELUA that said if you speed you lose your right to the car.

I would file a complaint for sure ban me from my games and ****s going to fly.

#359
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Lacan2 wrote...


Once that happens, Bioware/EA comes dangerously close to it being picked up by some Wall Street Journal journalist or on the AP wire. I seriously doubt EA shareholders want such a minor problem with just one customer to become a PR debacle.


I might suffer some consequences for this but..

I really wish that would happen, EA needs to learn the Consumer > Supplier thing we got going on in the US of A. Shake them to their roots and make them respect the people that fill their wallets 

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I wonder if mass effect 3 is going to feature the same 3-4 dungeon layouts and go straight gears of war, Oh and weapon upgrades might be DLC I'm guessing?

Already on the disk day 1 though.

#361
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17thknight wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

blowoutware wrote...

I can see lawsuits coming from this, and rightfully so this game has major issues and whenever they are brought up it seems the Bioware neo-**** squad comes to defend anything remotley constructive.

EA = templars, forum posters = mages, and those that question anything are apostates.


The right of annulment has been proclaimed.



:lol:

Thank you for bringing lol's to this thread.


Damn you Oslegend...I got coffee all over my keyboard now, ugh...

#362
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17thknight wrote...

Insaner Robot wrote...

His account was banned for 72 hours, he can't play DA2 because he needs to activate it with his account while it's banned.
His other games still work he just can't activate the DLC in game because for the duration of his ban he's unable to login.

So he should be able to activate his game when his ban has ended after three days. He is not prevented from playing DA:O Awakening or ME2 as these can be played without logging in to your account. And would probably be able to DA2 without the exta content from DLC if his ban occured after activation.

To cut a long story short, after his ban has ended he should logically be able to activate his game and play normally with all his DLC.


And if it was a permanent ban...?

He's fortunate, extremely, that this was only 72 hours, but it shouldn't happen AT ALL. The length of time is irrelevant.



More "what if's"... We live in the world of what is not what if's.

#363
CoDeMoNsTeR2

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End of line.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...
Could you please give some word on the situation?

The office is still closed, I'm still here to keep everything from exploding (which is easier now that I've left a thread open and those people posting racist caricatures and messages and wishing death on me have gone to bed), I'm still planning on notifying someone about the issue tomorrow morning, and this thread is still open.

EDIT: Sorry, I should have clarified that I've been home for a couple hours already, thanks for the concern.


Hi Stanley, I don't mean to tell you how to do your job and you're doing an admirable effort but ,as the sun rises here in Europe I imagine this story is going to be running all over the internet before the sun hits Canada. In a few hours I expect a google news search to bring up a host of items regarding this. Is there really nobody you can get at this time, not even someone from EA perhaps?

Modifié par Aurgelmir, 11 mars 2011 - 07:20 .


#365
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Dragoonlordz wrote...



I believe it is right for a company to ban the use of its licensed product if the offense is of a very serious nature (which does not include me jumping to the assumption that what someone who makes a claim happens actually is the reason in this case), unless you realise the report function on the Bioware forums actually do more than just report bad language or bad mouthing a product or company they actually contain very and I mean VERY serious issues in the report list from grooming to hate speech to terrorism posts. All SW did was point people to the TOC and the fact Bioware can ban from the forums and EA can ban from the game which is done via the reporting tool.

As for what the real report was about neither you know and neither do I but I won't jump to the defense of someone who I do not not for fact is telling the truth. With the report function some of those things you could be reported for shouldn't stop with a ban but should involve a custodial sentence.

If thats a yes then I really don't care how self righteous you think you are that this black and white world you live in is so crystal clear that you proclaim me to be the reincarnation of satan or likes of. Like I said if this is such an offense to your very existance be sure to voice such with your wallet. In both your scenarios you claim that whether I said yes or no I'm ignorant or misguided, I suggest you crawl out this glass bubble of yours and go out into the real world.


Stanley sorry..


Dragon, I have no easy way of telling you this. But you have been diagnosed with idiot syndrome. 

#366
Insaner Robot

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Whilst I fully agree if he was permanently unable to play his game that would be huge cause for concern. He currently is only banned and unable to activate it for three days.

There's also the fact that everybody on these forums has agreed to abide by certain codes of conduct as outlined in the EA terms of service here: tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/

Whether you read it or not they still apply (incidentally I would reccomend reading it). It took a few minutes of my life and does seem overly harsh, but it's always best to know where you stand in any regard.

Modifié par Insaner Robot, 11 mars 2011 - 07:20 .


#367
joriandrake

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Naitaka wrote...

17thknight wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

blowoutware wrote...

I can see lawsuits coming from this, and rightfully so this game has major issues and whenever they are brought up it seems the Bioware neo-**** squad comes to defend anything remotley constructive.

EA = templars, forum posters = mages, and those that question anything are apostates.


The right of annulment has been proclaimed.



:lol:

Thank you for bringing lol's to this thread.


Damn you Oslegend...I got coffee all over my keyboard now, ugh...


He really does deserve a cookie, or two

#368
Stanley Woo

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I'm here because I love this community, and partly because this kerfuffle happened while I was moderating and I didn't want the forum full of posts all saying the same thing when the office opened tomorrow morning. So, in my zeal to keep the forum clean, well, y'all saw what happened. When I needed to go home, I left a thread open in the hopes that it would keep the discussion in one place. And it has (thank you).

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Revoking the ability of someone to play your game because they said something you didn't like is grounds for swearing off that game developer/publisher from that point on. It also sounds potentially illegal, but I couldn't claim to know for sure.

I use "you" and "your" in the non specific sense here.

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Joshd21 wrote...

.1.Let's just be clear, if you are banned on the fourms that doesn't mean you can't play the video game! there is tons of misinformation about this, let's say you create a bad posts. Boom, your banned but you can still log in all day and night on the game without any disturbing BUT the person in question DID NOT register the game BEFORE he started his rant that got him suspended for 72 hours!

So this whole fight, oh if your banned on the fourms, means your banned in game!, not true. Misinformation that is out there. There is an online check that is registered when you start up the game, after that you are home free. Let that rest in your mind for a moment, a ban on here, does not mean a ban in game. Everyone understand that?

2. What exactly is ths arugment about, a gamer claiming he can't play the game? why because he violated the rules before he got a chance to register the game! oh really so how long does he have to wait untill he registers the game? Umm about 72 hours!

3. The poster who has been banned has kept coming on this site creating post after post, several accounts and bashing the site. Once Mr. Woo figures out how to do the ISP(Internet Service Provider) ban. He won't be able to log into the site (Not on that PC anyways) but in the meantime he has created several threads, slamming the mods, mocking them, talked about getting the game from an illegal place and posted threads that would be considered haressment, threats etc. They should suspend his account for good.

Simply take your violation like a man and get over it. If you truely can not wait 3 days. Then you have too much time on your hands.


You sure have your ways of twisting your words there. I'll use the quote again 

Indeed. Everyone defending this action must think it would be acceptable for Sony to show up at your house and take away your television after you bought it; GM to come take away your car after you paid for it; and for Coke to come stomach pump you and take back their soda after you drank it.

Yup, you can't hold a candle on this statement.

#371
joriandrake

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Stanley Woo wrote...

EDIT: Sorry, I should have clarified that I've been home for a couple hours already, thanks for the concern.


:lol:

and I started to believe you are all alone in an office building at night watching the forums before a PC in a big hall with shaking hands, pale skin, and red eyes from exhaustion =]

#372
night0205

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Alright sleepy time for me. I think we can all use some nice shut eye. Got work in the morning you know. It has been an interesting evening.

Sadly, I'm still waiting for my copy of Dragon Age 2 and just hoping it's the Signature Edition that I was promised.

#373
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Insaner Robot wrote...

Whilst I fully agree if he was permanently unable to play his game that would be huge cause for concern. He currently is only banned and unable to activate it for three days.

There's also the fact that everybody on these forums has agreed to abide by certain codes of conduct as outlined in the EA terms of service here: tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/

Whether you read it or not they still apply (incidentally I would reccomend reading it). It took a few minutes of my life and does seem overly harsh, but it's always best to know where you stand in any regard.


The length of time isn't relevant, the issue is that just because you behave poorly in the eyes of the company doesn't mean that they have the right to take away the product you just purchased for any period of time. What is said on the forums should have 0 impact on a single player game with no interaction with other players.

#374
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joriandrake wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

EDIT: Sorry, I should have clarified that I've been home for a couple hours already, thanks for the concern.


:lol:

and I started to believe you are all alone in an office building at night watching the forums before a PC in a big hall with shaking hands, pale skin, and red eyes from exhaustion =]


blew my dorito theory right out the water Posted Image

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Revoking the ability of someone to play your game because they said something you didn't like is grounds for swearing off that game developer/publisher from that point on. It also sounds potentially illegal, but I couldn't claim to know for sure.

I use "you" and "your" in the non specific sense here.


The social site is a privilege, not a right I believe.

This is a fan site, this isn't a general complaint board.