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You cannot in good faith limit a persons ability to play a game because of a forum post.


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darth_hel

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edited, I was wrong

Modifié par darth_hel, 11 mars 2011 - 11:17 .


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Zanallen

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darth_hel wrote...

i.imgur.com/mec1o.png  that was the original thread before they removed it.


The other thread isn't removed at all as of this post. Just copy/paste the link in the first post of this thread.

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darth_hel

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Apologies, somehow I read locked and I must be tired because I somehow took the meaning as hidden

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TormDK

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I have no problems with trolls and people that hide behind their internet anonymity get the hammer from time to time.

Feedback is encouraged, constructive feedback that is.

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Sacred_Fantasy

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The original poster post vulgar, defamatory, slander and hate speech enough to warrant his ban. His 3 days suspension is in accordance with forum ToS EA Community and BioWare Community.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 11 mars 2011 - 11:56 .


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Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

The original poster post vulgar, defamatory, slander and hate speech enough to warrant his ban. His 3 days suspension is in accordance with forum ToS EA Community and BioWare Community.


The argument is not about whether or not a forum is right to ban a user. That's perfectly fine.

The argument is that a banned user cannot play the games they've paid for. I'm pretty sure this breaks consumer law.

P.

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SirCrashalot

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A lot of people deserved to recieve forum bans because of the content and attitudes of their posts but that does not mean they should be blocked from playing games they have paid for.

I get the feeling this may be an unintentional sideaffect from reading Stanleys posts, hopefully they will resolve this issue.

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Some of you people are really dense. The issue here is not what the person said/did and whether or not they should've been punished. It is the fact that EA will ban you from playing your games and/or block you from accessing DLC because of something said on a forum. Another issue is that you're forced to accept these terms and agree to the EULA after you spend money on a game and can't get a refund so there really is no choice for someone but to agree to these.

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Vengeance of the Grave

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change IP address DUH

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Azhpol

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This issue is not new, it came up when EA implemented the newest EA ID system that tied everything together... you know that email address you log into? if it gets banned(which EA mods will do, its your EA forum account) everything under it gets banned(every game/DLC/Gamertag associated with it) and you cannot connect. Pretty sure if a Bioware Mod bans you its just your bioware community name that gets banned, not the master ID.  Any game that validates through your EA ID(or the EADM) will get blocked, eventually.  EADM checks to see if you are still valid every 90 days or so, so the block on those games won't kick in for a while, but if you are perma banned, it eventually will.

edit for clarification - if you have to provide your email address that EA knows, and EA takes action on the account, you get kicked from any EA game you own, eventually.

Modifié par Azhpol, 11 mars 2011 - 12:26 .


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Jebel Krong

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Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

The original poster post vulgar, defamatory, slander and hate speech enough to warrant his ban. His 3 days suspension is in accordance with forum ToS EA Community and BioWare Community.


yup. from the forums sure. but from his legally-bought, singleplayer games/DLC? no way. even if it was a multiplayer game, you've still got no legal grounds for that. whatever he/she did on a forum is totally unrelated to gaming or their property.

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Azhpol wrote...

This issue is not new, it came up when EA implemented the newest EA ID system that tied everything together... you know that email address you log into? if it gets banned(which EA mods will do, its your EA forum account) everything under it gets banned(every game/DLC/Gamertag associated with it) and you cannot connect. Pretty sure if a Bioware Mod bans you its just your bioware community name that gets banned, not the master ID.  Any game that validates through your EA ID(or the EADM) will get blocked, eventually.  EADM checks to see if you are still valid every 90 days or so, so the block on those games won't kick in for a while, but if you are perma banned, it eventually will.

edit for clarification - if you have to provide your email address that EA knows, and EA takes action on the account, you get kicked from any EA game you own, eventually.


Someone says the direct opposite, I just need 1 clarification, when you get banned, can you still login your ID in DAO and play the game?

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Brb, got to delete all my posts on various forums so EA doesn't ban me.

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EA terms or no terms, this is flat out unacceptable and yes, evil.

I am actually amazed this is happening today....in 2011...unbelievable.

A guy pays for a product and he later finds out the company will not let him use it. Why?

Because he misbehaved!! (the comment that was made is simply laughable to deserve a ban from being able to paly the game. We have seen much worse...) I agree with the ban on the forums (even though as I said we have seen much worse stuff), but not letting him play the game he paid 60$ to you for? Hell no... this is crossing the line, and comes close to the characteristics of certain political ideologies that invoke disgust to say the least...

Bioware/EA/dont care who, owes a public apology. Nothing less. They can ban a guy from a community service that belongs to them, but they have no right (and if they do via terms, that is borderline evil, we all know what "terms of agreement" stands for nowdays, as if anyone is going to scroll down 15 pages of text reading, just to agree to become a member of an online community....but they know this and they exploit it) to stop him from enjoying what he PAID FOR with his own money.

You dont like him playing your game? Dont let him BUY it in the first place...

Modifié par Valkyre4, 11 mars 2011 - 12:50 .


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Drake Sigar

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Valkyre4 wrote...
 Hell no... this is crossing the line, and comes close to the characteristics of certain political ideologies that invoke disgust to say the least...

Go on, say it. SAY IT! Nobody deserves it more than EA.

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So no we cant register our games? Think the next place here i will get my next EA game will be thepiratebay.

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Valkyre4

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Drake Sigar wrote...

Valkyre4 wrote...
 Hell
no... this is crossing the line, and comes close to the characteristics
of certain political ideologies that invoke disgust to say the
least...

Go on, say it. SAY IT! Nobody deserves it more than EA.

^^ You think so...? Bu..but... they'll....ban...me... too....!! :crying::P:P

Seriously they need to sort this thing out. I love Bioware, but this is disgusting...

Modifié par Valkyre4, 11 mars 2011 - 12:53 .


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oceanclub wrote...
The argument is that a banned user cannot play the games they've paid for. I'm pretty sure this breaks consumer law.


Banned users can play their games.  They just have to create a new EA/Bioware account to authorize the game.

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Azhpol

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If your bioware forum account is banned, the it should not affect you, but if the EA community account that your forum ID/game is linked to is banned you will lose the games attached... eventually :P

Helped a friend who works for EA cust support work out the details a couple years ago :P

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That's ****ing disgusting and EA/BioWare should be ashamed.

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Drake Sigar wrote...

Brb, got to delete all my posts on various forums so EA doesn't ban me.


Good call. Also I think what I am gonna do is just make a separate account not tied to my games so someone who takes things personally doesn't remove access to paid content cause I hurt their feelings on a forum.

They should look at WoW for the way things are done. Countless people get perma-banned from the WoW forums, but Blizzard isn't stupid enough to remove access to the games they paid for.

Modifié par Bendok, 11 mars 2011 - 01:07 .


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Mudface67

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Given what's subsequently happened, I'd have to agree with the sentiment expressed in the guy's original comment. Ridiculous and unacceptable behaviour from a very consumer-unfriendly company.

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lostspline wrote...

oceanclub wrote...
The argument is that a banned user cannot play the games they've paid for. I'm pretty sure this breaks consumer law.


Banned users can play their games.  They just have to create a new EA/Bioware account to authorize the game.


And if they've bought from the EA Store?

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Bioware has sold their souls to the devil - EA.

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Azhpol wrote...

If your bioware forum account is banned, the it should not affect you, but if the EA community account that your forum ID/game is linked to is banned you will lose the games attached... eventually :P

Helped a friend who works for EA cust support work out the details a couple years ago :P


Correct me if I'm wrong

Aren't we using EA account to login here??????(bioware social)

The bioware forum account only stays in the old bioware forum.