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#701
Killyox the Defender

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WHY does any goverment or w/e allow for such breaking of rights, if you PAID for the right of playing you shouldnt be punished by not being allowed to play. You didnt sign anything before buying the game.

This is ridiculous. Never EVER gonna buy game from EA and that includes BioWare as long as they are under EA Umbrella.

#702
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This issue need to be made public in every gamer magazine and website, so, send this to every gamer magazine and website you know. I for sure will do so.

#703
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This is disgusting.
DRM and authorizing of games by use of online accounts are supposed to reduce piracy, instead BS like this is increasing incentives for piracy.

I buy most of my games. But trust me when I say this, I will *not* buy any of EA's games until this is solved, I will pirate those games in good conscience, knowing that EA won't be able to pull some DRM/anti-legit consumer dick move.

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I am so glad this issue is getting tons of coverage. EA is in damage control mode. They threw so much money in this game, and the Bioware team let so many people down, to some extent. So now EA is pulling strings and immorally banning people from PLAYING, simply for complaining about one of their products!!!

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These boards the last few days have been disgusting. I t has actually shown me how much i hate humans. I wish i could side with the reapers in ME3 and kill all these whiney despicable humans. They disgust me.

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Wait, the guy was cited for attacking *EA* and this was their way of addressing the bad PR? Masters of irony, these guys.

The beatings will continue until morale has improved. :)

Modifié par marcbenigni, 11 mars 2011 - 02:14 .


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Did he already register his game on that account? If he didn't, could he just create a new one and register on that one? And as for the other games, I don't know why he wouldn't have access. I have my default as not logging into my EA/Bioware account automatically in Origins and I can play fine.

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I play single player games now instead of MMOs because I don't want to have to deal with this crap. I don't want to participate in forums and I don't want to connect to the game distributor or creator every time I play it. I don't want to "log on" to anything - I just want to play a stand alone game on my computer in peace.

I don't mind instal verifications, net based or not, or anything the company wants to do when I initially install a game to make sure I didn't steal it.

This is too much and there are too many hoops to jump through this time.

I won't jump through them again.

Lots of other games out there and lots of other distributors.

Modifié par Ramtaku, 11 mars 2011 - 02:17 .


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Just adding my voice to say that it is ridiculous that a company can decide to block your acces to a product you purchased legally, fine print or no. Shame on EA/Bioware for this "rule". If people don't play by the rules of the community, why on earth not just block them from the community? What gives you the right to decide if and when they can use their (legally obtained) property? And even if you think you have the right (or, Lord knows, maybe you do under Canadian or US law, I have no idea) what made you think that it was a good idea?!

And also: seriously, Bioware? THAT is worthy of blocking someone's access to their game, a snarky comment that mentions the devil? I would've probably been more forgiving in my opinion if these were threats of violence or something like that, but a negative opinion about your company which did not even involve what we would commonly call rude language?

I have never advocated pirating games and still don't, but this is pretty much the first argument I've seen for pirating that I can sympathize with.

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@tez, that's the 2nd "I hate humans because of a video game forum" post in 2 days. Both are equally bizarre IMO.

#711
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Wow this is Simply unacceptable! Disgusting abuse of power is the only way I could describe it.

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tez19 wrote...

These boards the last few days have been disgusting. I t has actually shown me how much i hate humans. I wish i could side with the reapers in ME3 and kill all these whiney despicable humans. They disgust me.

Charming.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

DwarvenNoble86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

lol This nonsense is still going on? Out of the things in this world war, murder, rape, child abuse and other such things like children dying from lack of medicine or clean water... This is what interweb people are choosing to spend their time moaning about for hours and hours now,that some dude got suspended from registering his game for three measly days. Seriously people get some perspective on your lives. This is the cause that your choosing to fight over all others? -.-


I have been silently watching this for now but I can't help it anymore when it comes to you, DragoonLordz. 

You complain about the people who have a "nice join date", you complain about people that are just wasting their time to incite a mini-rebellion, and you complain about the frutility of all this so-called whining, yet you are still here.

Yet why can't you acknowledge that this is not about anything more than a company violating the consumer's right to his/her product? Days, weeks, years, or even meer hours, it doesn't really matter. They should not be allowed to decide when we can and when we can't have what we've already purchased. 

If they do not respond to that, then I know they've lost my trust as a consumer.  I cannot trust someone who steals from me what is I have already paid for.




Yet your on Bioware site complaining instead of EA.. Go Figure... The people upset in a rage over this are the very, very tiny minority of both gaming population and a small amount of people. They haven't stolen from you in which case it becomes about what ifs and nothing short of a magic 8 ball scenario. You can call me whatever you wish but simple fact is this shouldn't be on Biowares site as they aren't the ones who suspended this person, so go to EA by all means and boycott or whatever. But use Bioware forums to talk about Bioware not EA. 


If that were so I can't argue with that. If you are saying that EA has the control over this and not Bioware, than, yes, this issue should be brought up to the EA people instead.  But the moderators on this forum brought Bioware into this by them showing to us that they can deny access to our games because of misconduct on their forums. 

Either way once it's in my pocket and properly paid for I don't care what they, being the distributer or the company that made it, thinks about it, it's mine. They have no right to take what it mine. Unless I violate a federal law like pirating, they are in the wrong.

It's really up to Bioware to make a move.  Separate forum bans from game bans.  It's really that simple.

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Dragoonlordz

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Crinai wrote...

Did he already register his game on that account? If he didn't, could he just create a new one and register on that one? And as for the other games, I don't know why he wouldn't have access. I have my default as not logging into my EA/Bioware account automatically in Origins and I can play fine.


Yes he could easily create another account if the guy didn't want to wait 3 days to register his game on his suspended account in answer to your question. 
 

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

DwarvenNoble86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

lol
This nonsense is still going on? Out of the things in this world war,
murder, rape, child abuse and other such things like children dying
from lack of medicine or clean water... This is what interweb people
are choosing to spend their time moaning about for hours and hours
now,that some dude got suspended from registering his game for three
measly days. Seriously people get some perspective on your lives. This
is the cause that your choosing to fight over all others? -.-


I have been silently watching this for now but I can't help it anymore when it comes to you, DragoonLordz. 

You
complain about the people who have a "nice join date", you complain
about people that are just wasting their time to incite a
mini-rebellion, and you complain about the frutility of all this
so-called whining, yet you are still here.

Yet why can't you
acknowledge that this is not about anything more than a company
violating the consumer's right to his/her product? Days, weeks, years,
or even meer hours, it doesn't really matter. They should not be
allowed to decide when we can and when we can't have what we've already
purchased. 

If they do not respond to that, then I know
they've lost my trust as a consumer.  I cannot trust someone who steals
from me what is I have already paid for.




Yet
your on Bioware site complaining instead of EA.. Go Figure... The
people upset in a rage over this are the very, very tiny minority of
both gaming population and a small amount of people. They haven't
stolen from you in which case it becomes about what ifs and nothing
short of a magic 8 ball scenario. You can call me whatever you wish but
simple fact is this shouldn't be on Biowares site as they aren't the
ones who suspended this person, so go to EA by all means and boycott or
whatever. But use Bioware forums to talk about Bioware not EA.  

^^ Bioware is part of EA, it was their choice and it comes with all the respective responsibilities attached to it. Kudos btw for remaining here, defending bioware while the world is engulfed in wars, starvation etc etc...

Modifié par Valkyre4, 11 mars 2011 - 02:17 .


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Killyox the Defender wrote...

WHY does any goverment or w/e allow for such breaking of rights, if you PAID for the right of playing you shouldnt be punished by not being allowed to play. You didnt sign anything before buying the game.

This is ridiculous. Never EVER gonna buy game from EA and that includes BioWare as long as they are under EA Umbrella.


There are laws in place to protect the players too, which is why you don’t see digital contracts saying “if you sign this we will own your house, your car, and your wife.” Obviously as corporations come up with new methods to cheat players, the governments must decide where the law stands.

#717
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wow. Gotta remember to read those things now before i agree to them. Still pretty bad move.

#718
Dragoonlordz

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DwarvenNoble86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DwarvenNoble86 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

lol This nonsense is still going on? Out of the things in this world war, murder, rape, child abuse and other such things like children dying from lack of medicine or clean water... This is what interweb people are choosing to spend their time moaning about for hours and hours now,that some dude got suspended from registering his game for three measly days. Seriously people get some perspective on your lives. This is the cause that your choosing to fight over all others? -.-


I have been silently watching this for now but I can't help it anymore when it comes to you, DragoonLordz. 

You complain about the people who have a "nice join date", you complain about people that are just wasting their time to incite a mini-rebellion, and you complain about the frutility of all this so-called whining, yet you are still here.

Yet why can't you acknowledge that this is not about anything more than a company violating the consumer's right to his/her product? Days, weeks, years, or even meer hours, it doesn't really matter. They should not be allowed to decide when we can and when we can't have what we've already purchased. 

If they do not respond to that, then I know they've lost my trust as a consumer.  I cannot trust someone who steals from me what is I have already paid for.




Yet your on Bioware site complaining instead of EA.. Go Figure... The people upset in a rage over this are the very, very tiny minority of both gaming population and a small amount of people. They haven't stolen from you in which case it becomes about what ifs and nothing short of a magic 8 ball scenario. You can call me whatever you wish but simple fact is this shouldn't be on Biowares site as they aren't the ones who suspended this person, so go to EA by all means and boycott or whatever. But use Bioware forums to talk about Bioware not EA. 


If that were so I can't argue with that. If you are saying that EA has the control over this and not Bioware, than, yes, this issue should be brought up to the EA people instead.  But the moderators on this forum brought Bioware into this by them showing to us that they can deny access to our games because of misconduct on their forums. 

Either way once it's in my pocket and properly paid for I don't care what they, being the distributer or the company that made it, thinks about it, it's mine. They have no right to take what it mine. Unless I violate a federal law like pirating, they are in the wrong.

It's really up to Bioware to make a move.  Separate forum bans from game bans.  It's really that simple.


What Bioware actually said is EA are the ones who suspended this guy and Bioware only bans from forums, if your anger is over being banned from Biowares forums by all means you are in the right place. This however is not the case since EA suspended this guy not Bioware. You don't hang the work colleagues of a murderer you just hang the one responsable, so claiming because Bioware are part of EAs IP therefore responsable is immature imo and placing the blame on the easiest target and not making it the right thing to do.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2011 - 02:26 .


#719
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Best bet is to wait a bit, Stanly said he will be notifying the company about this incident so hopefully they will rectify it once they get to work and figure out what is going on.

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@SirCrashalot

No, we need to whine more so more people know about this.

I must feed on your hate.

Modifié par HJudge, 11 mars 2011 - 02:27 .


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I'd wager that if only those who knew what they were talking about posted in this topic it wouldn't have gone past page one.

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I'm amazed at this - It might very well be in the EULA but I'm also pretty sure it's completely illegal.

Modifié par MartinJHolm, 11 mars 2011 - 02:27 .


#723
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The problem with EULA is that you have to buy the game before you get a chance to agree or decline the EULA. Sure in very tiny print they have the words "You agree to the EULA found on this website" but thats no more enforceable than me having a bumper sticker on my car that says "In the event of an accident, you assume all responsibility and expense of repair".

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Now this is exactly why you should never link the games to your forum account!

And wow....just wow ea has reached a new low, and it seems like Bioware will follow.

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