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[Dragoonlordz]

rolson00 wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

sffrrrom wrote...

Shouldn't you be banned now, LordKain? I think calling another user a tool falls under conduct which is unwanted or might embarrass another player.

No, if I'm breaking any rules I should get a warning....like I'm pretty sure that moron who got banned did.

have u even read his side of it?(he said it happened without a warning) thats a bit harsh don't you think?

Maybe... But only if you believe him.

Some people believe that noone should ever be allowed to remove or block something even if it is only a temporary few days long that you pay for regardless of your actions.

I believe there are some exceptable reasons for restricting the use of something you paid for, for example engaging in criminal activity, I find the original persons original comment to be dubious to say the least regarding blocked from all games unless buying products from EA downloaded is the equivilant of steam which I doubt.
 
He would of registered his other EA and Bioware games prior to this and would not need to connect to the net to use or play unless was off something like steam. I know 100% fact you do not have to register at all to play any Bioware game offline on consoles and if you have downloaded the DLC already then that too nothing will stop you playing it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2011 - 07:21 .

[Oslegend]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I know for a fact they don't just go suspending you (was suspension in that he is allowed access again to register his product after 72 hours), they do give you warnings. I have had warnings from EA myself in the past.

I can see why...the stupidty is strong in this one.

[rolson00]

_LordKain_ wrote...

Literateminority wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow.....and still it continues.

I wonder how many of these accounts are from that same tool who got banned.

Oh and let me know how that boycott works out people...lol.

Yep, that guy must probably manage over 100 different accounts and is all day having conversations with him self. What a talent! He probably also wrote ALL the negative user reviews on metacritics and is part of a secret organization which the goal to destroy Bioware. Now go and check if your tinfoil hat is still on so the aliens won't manipulate your mind and have a nice day.

Did I say they were all his genius?  Didn't think so.

going to report you to Evil Arts now..wait betta not they might execute you:?

[Dragoonlordz]

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I know for a fact they don't just go suspending you (was suspension in that he is allowed access again to register his product after 72 hours), they do give you warnings. I have had warnings from EA myself in the past.

I can see why...the stupidty is strong in this one.

Welcome back troll, missed your rants glad your back to entertain me.

[tekraa]

After reading this thread, I can no longer in any faith, good or bad, purchase an EA product or Bioware product. I suppose I should just retire my pc and xbox and stop gaming if this is the way companies are going to treat their customers. This basically says "If we don't like your opinion of our game, we'll shut you up so you can't tell other people". It's bad business, folks.

[moilami]

_LordKain_ wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

sffrrrom wrote...

Shouldn't you be banned now, LordKain? I think calling another user a tool falls under conduct which is unwanted or might embarrass another player.

No, if I'm breaking any rules I should get a warning....like I'm pretty sure that moron who got banned did.

Calling somebody a tool is breaking a rule. Calling somebody a moron after having called him a tool is most certainly reason enough for a ban.

Let's see how well BioWare enforces their own rules. Perhaps you'll have a change of perspective after EA has locked you out of your games.

Well, I'll happily accept my ban.  Not whine like a litte baby in the forums.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!  Me no can play foe 3 days....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

u brag

[Oslegend]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

Sorry, too lazy to read 31 pages.

So....all this is cause 1 person got banned from the forums? Really?

Oh brother...

Yes it was 1 random person got suspended from activating his game for 72 hours, because of his actions online though no proof as to what those actions really was only have his word for it. Pretty much sums it up. Personally I thin the guy should have put a little more effort by registering his game before going off ranting about the companies via religous references if that is as he says is what got him suspended for 72 hours from registering.

YOU ARE AN IDIOT STOP.

[joe_sinister]

kdamon wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

I get what's happening here. Like I said earlier it happens all the time on MMOs. Someone mentioned this is different. How so? You pay money to purchase the MMO. You pay a monthly fee to continue to play the MMO. You mouth off in the forums there's a good chance your account will be banned.

"2. EA Community bans come down from a different department and are the result of someone hitting the REPORT POST button. These bans can affect access to your game and/or DLC."

It's in the rules. If you can't follow the rules, don't post. Simple as that. Hope he's enjoying his 72 hour ban. lol!

I agree.  It's not like he was offering constructive criticism.  He was intent on trying to offend and using inflammatory language.  Probably because he felt safe acting like a child thinking there'd be no repercussions.  I'm glad someone stood up and said enough.  Enough of this feeling of entitlement to act like a spoiled baby.  You don't like EA?  Fine, tell us why.  Don't want to support Bioware or EA anymore?"  Hey, it's your money.  But to protest something by coming online to mock the maker of the game is pointless.  How many things do you get done by going up to someone and calling them a name?  

There are tons of posts here about things people didn't like about the game expressed thoughtfully and non-offenssively.  What's wrong with that approach?  Surely the company (or whoever reads posts here and is in a position to change anything) would take a carefully thought out critique much more seriously.

Yeah it takes a lot of courage for a muti billion dollar corp to stand up to one lone consumer, good for EA!  Don't let the little man keep ya down!

[Alastanir]

tekraa wrote...

After reading this thread, I can no longer in any faith, good or bad, purchase an EA product or Bioware product. I suppose I should just retire my pc and xbox and stop gaming if this is the way companies are going to treat their customers. This basically says "If we don't like your opinion of our game, we'll shut you up so you can't tell other people". It's bad business, folks.

The ostracization of BioWare is ridiculously unwarrented. EA needs to be the focal point of everyone's anger.

[Istananwee]

Reposting this from a thread i made that fell off of the front page without replies

I'll preface this post by making it clear that I am in no way a Lawyer, so what I may be about to say could be complete crap, but that would then just make it indistinguishable from the rest of the forum.



The reason I and plenty others have so much disdain of EULAS is simple. They are usually enforced after purchasing a product. Now, this is a problem because upon buying the product and you read the EULA and decide to not agree, you are locked out.. The vendor still keeps its money, and in most cases you can't sell the game back to the vendor like with console games. 

This practice really is quite immoral, and many courts disregard the value of the EULA for this very reason. It differs from a term of service agreement, as with those you sign the dotted line before making any payments. 

Therefore, this whole "EA is the devil" debacle boils my blood. The mod who enforced the ban, Stanley Woo stated the EULA as the legal backing for the ban. So the victim of the ban, who has now become something of a pariah, was banned from a product for a reason he only agreed on after paying for his copy of the game. Nevermind the fact that the reason for the ban is completely insane, because a forum ban would have sufficed, but the enforcing of it would be considered unlawful in most courts.

When you add in the fact that Securom seems to have been snuck into the retail version of the game without even any reference to it in the EULA or on the box, I can see further legal trouble for EA/Bioware, because this is quite simply a case of misrepresenting the product. There are some pretty important consumer rights being ignored here.

Both of these issues could yield class action lawsuits, and, as a previous fan of Bioware, It pains me to admit that I hope these lawsuits are successful.


(I hope this post is not removed as I feel it  is a very valid viewpoint which has rarely been discussed so far on this forum, although I would not be surprised if it was.)

[SOULSSOLDCHEAP]

“Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?”

[Elite Midget]

I don't care what he did. Banning him here should never result in banning him from games he bought. Hell, games he freaking preorered to support Bioware. What was done to him was an injustice and was wrong.

Now EA is wondering why the Pirateing scene has exploded for their games. When you start trreating your loyal customers like Criminals they'll start acting like them.

Utterly shameful.

[Oslegend]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I know for a fact they don't just go suspending you (was suspension in that he is allowed access again to register his product after 72 hours), they do give you warnings. I have had warnings from EA myself in the past.

I can see why...the stupidty is strong in this one.

Welcome back troll, missed your rants glad your back to entertain me.

If I'm a troll then everyone here who is condoning bioware/ea on this is a troll as well. You sir are the troll here.

Once again. I really pity anyone that is associated with you in real life, I would probably go to jail for assault.

Modifié par Oslegend, 11 mars 2011 - 07:33 .

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Perhaps Morrigan referred to this sort of thing?

[rolson00]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Perhaps Morrigan referred to this sort of thing?

what? morrigan banned someone from da2 as well

[darrylzero]

Elite Midget wrote...

I don't care what he did. Banning him here should never result in banning him from games he bought. Hell, games he freaking preorered to support Bioware. What was done to him was an injustice and was wrong.

Now EA is wondering why the Pirateing scene has exploded for their games. When you start trreating your loyal customers like Criminals they'll start acting like them.

Utterly shameful.

But couldn't he have just made another account?  If so, this punishment is related to his online presence, not his game usage, which seems appropriate.

Am I going crazy here?  In what way was he actually prevented from playing the game?  Is it the IP address?  Can someone confirm this?

[rolson00]

darrylzero wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

I don't care what he did. Banning him here should never result in banning him from games he bought. Hell, games he freaking preorered to support Bioware. What was done to him was an injustice and was wrong.

Now EA is wondering why the Pirateing scene has exploded for their games. When you start trreating your loyal customers like Criminals they'll start acting like them.

Utterly shameful.

But couldn't he have just made another account?  If so, this punishment is related to his online presence, not his game usage, which seems appropriate.

Am I going crazy here?  In what way was he actually prevented from playing the game?  Is it the IP address?  Can someone confirm this?

he cant play his game ea banned him its part of their rules

[Dragoonlordz]

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I know for a fact they don't just go suspending you (was suspension in that he is allowed access again to register his product after 72 hours), they do give you warnings. I have had warnings from EA myself in the past.

I can see why...the stupidty is strong in this one.

Welcome back troll, missed your rants glad your back to entertain me.

If I'm a troll then everyone here who is condoning bioware/ea on this is a troll as well. You sir are the troll here.

Once again. I really pity anyone that is associated with you in real life, I would probably go to jail for assault.

All bark no bite and love the way you think in RL you could take me based off nothing but your ego, I suggest either add to the topic rather than throwing insults like name calling like a child.

You need to adjust your attitude problem before gaining any respect from me.

[Big Blue Car]

SOULSSOLDCHEAP wrote...

“Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?”

[Zkyire]

Two people taking turns to call each other trolls. Lol.

[marais]

_LordKain_ wrote...

asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow.....and still it continues.

I wonder how many of these accounts are from that same tool who got banned.

Oh and let me know how that boycott works out people...lol.

obvious troll is obvious.  Lulz back at ya.

Ahh, 4chan lingo.  The picture is becoming a wee bit clearer now. <_<

lol @ the idea that some if not most of the regular posters on this or any other video game forum have less than a passing acquaintance with 4chan. 

Not allowing someone to play a game because they gave it a bad review or in some way 'mouthed off' on the forums is attracting very negative press, as is the DRM, as is the Nvidia issue, as is the cut and paste environment, as is Bioware Russia telling people to go and support the game on Metacritic because the user reviews are too low and this was somehow a 'flashmob' as opposed to genuinely unhappy customers, as is the lack of story, as is the composer telling us it was a rush job, as is...

[Gamejudge]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Perhaps Morrigan referred to this sort of thing?

This was indeed the change coming to the world... I should've gone through the mirror.

[Dragoonlordz]

darrylzero wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

I don't care what he did. Banning him here should never result in banning him from games he bought. Hell, games he freaking preorered to support Bioware. What was done to him was an injustice and was wrong.

Now EA is wondering why the Pirateing scene has exploded for their games. When you start trreating your loyal customers like Criminals they'll start acting like them.

Utterly shameful.

But couldn't he have just made another account?  If so, this punishment is related to his online presence, not his game usage, which seems appropriate.

Am I going crazy here?  In what way was he actually prevented from playing the game?  Is it the IP address?  Can someone confirm this?

He was only suspended from his online account, which for example contains his DLC for a period of 3 days on his specific case while he claims it also stopped him from playing any EA/Bioware games I think is dubious at best specifically with the "any" part because it is possible due to the fact that companies use registering games as form of anti piracy that he got blocked from registering his latest game from being unlocked for period of 3 days which is the suspension imposed on him buit not all prreviously registered games.

People on here now are not really referring to the fact he was suspended they have turned it into a war on EA and Bioware based off the fact in EA TOS and EULA they say they have the right to ban people from accessing their content aka games. This is nothing new this is in all TOS and EULAs so it has become war on corporations which use TOS and EULA with that clause.

There are also alot of people here from external sites because of the word being spread around by the original group trying to mostly cause drama and inflame the situation so it gets more attention.

There are some legitimate Bioware or EA players here expressing concern but those ones are not the ones most verbal on here.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2011 - 07:50 .

[Oslegend]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I know for a fact they don't just go suspending you (was suspension in that he is allowed access again to register his product after 72 hours), they do give you warnings. I have had warnings from EA myself in the past.

I can see why...the stupidty is strong in this one.

Welcome back troll, missed your rants glad your back to entertain me.

If I'm a troll then everyone here who is condoning bioware/ea on this is a troll as well. You sir are the troll here.

Once again. I really pity anyone that is associated with you in real life, I would probably go to jail for assault.

All bark no bite and love the way you think in RL you could take me based off nothing but your ego, I suggest either add to the topic rather than throwing insults like name calling like a child.

You need to adjust your attitude problem before gaining any respect from me.

Why would I spend time trying to continue a logical argument with you when your sense of reason is that of a brick, hell a brick could do a better job at logic than you. You fail to understand that consumers have rights to something after they purchase it, regardless of their behavior, once you buy it, it's yours. You also fail to understand that the length of the ban is irrelevant because it can be interchanged with any other number, if it was a year ban you would not be saying Oh it's just a year.. nothing stopping them from turning a 3 day ban into a 1 year ban, your argument is that he should have registered his game before ranting about bioware, we shouldn't have to fear a company cutting off our ability to play a game because of what we say to them. I should be able to speak my mind without having to worry about losing access to my game. And its not just registering it, he wouldnt be able to play any dlcs on that account and if he had any dlcs on that account he would not want to make a new one and lose items in game from not having other games registered. And bioware is to blame as much as EA and since bioware is owned by EA this forum can be used to complain about EA.

You defend bioware on this like a blind brainwashed fanatic yet you have no sense in logic and fairness and morality is definatly not in your arguments. And you and only 2 or 3 other people share your opinion as opposed to the 42 pages of other people against bioware/your disillusion

Modifié par Oslegend, 11 mars 2011 - 07:49 .

[darrylzero]

Eh never mind.

Modifié par darrylzero, 11 mars 2011 - 07:49 .