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[joe_sinister]

Haexpane wrote...

joe_sinister wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

EA-Bioware already responded. They banned the guy for flaming the devs.

Case closed. user outrage is irrelevant until the sales numbers come in.

Trust me, if there is enough bad PR backlash EA would cave and change the policy. Just look at how they caved in that whole Taliban controvery with MOH, as proof of how spineless EA is in the face of bad publicity. Damned shame Bioware had to be purchased by these pricks.

They caved on the MOH taliban nonsense because of astroturf political action committees.

No such astroturf bogus org is taking up this cause.

I wonder how well DA2 would have pre-sold if there was a disclaimer up front that said

"If you get angry about something in this game and say something against our company, you will not be able to play the game any more"

I mean, how many times did we curse out Nintendo over cheap deaths in Zelda II?  I can picture Shiggy smashing my NES console w/ his foot and wagging his finger at me

Whether or not there would be a political action committee behind it would't matter, if the PR was bad enough to effect sales EA would change it. Corporations only care about the bottom line after all.

[Stanley Woo]

Again, let's keep software piracy out of the discussion, please. And now, let's please keep the real-world politics from invading the discussion. Thank you.

[Dragoonlordz]

aries1001 wrote...

So the user couldn't access any other game made by Bioware? Not even KOTOR who has an activation server on Lucas Arts maybe? If he has Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 installed and already acitvated, he should be able to play them? I'm not sure if DA: Origins can be played offline, though.

So he claims.... I know it's PC or even Mac based hes playing on because console versions do not require activation to play regardless of if your account is suspended. If registration is what stopped him from playing DA2 then to not be able to play any of the other Bioware titles would mean he hadn't installed or registered any of those either. I think this aspect should be taken with a pinch of salt even though he may be suspended from playing DA2 as a result of the suspending of account having knock on effect to the registration process that part I can believe.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2011 - 10:06 .

[Marsher]

I think this might be exploding more than it should. EA saw a rule violation and took action.
Define the difference between this and being banned temporarily from COD multiplayer.

And Bioware made the rational decision in going under EA.
People. More money=more budget. More budget=better games.
STOP.
WHINING.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Badgame wrote...

 The EULA violates first ammendment rights, and therefore would not stand up in the court of law. 

The first amendment only restricts the government's ability to limit your speech.  Private entities can limit your speech all they want.

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 11 mars 2011 - 10:06 .

[Anathemic]

Marsher wrote...

I think this might be exploding more than it should. EA saw a rule violation and took action.
Define the difference between this and being banned temporarily from COD multiplayer.

And Bioware made the rational decision in going under EA.
People. More money=more budget. More budget=better games.
STOP.
WHINING.

Okay

I can still play CoD single player when I'm banned from multiplayer.

herp derp

[Haexpane]

Marsher wrote...

 
Define the difference between this and being banned temporarily from COD multiplayer.
 
WHINING.

Online Multiplayer

That was a self answering question btw.

[joe_sinister]

Marsher wrote...

I think this might be exploding more than it should. EA saw a rule violation and took action.
Define the difference between this and being banned temporarily from COD multiplayer.

And Bioware made the rational decision in going under EA.
People. More money=more budget. More budget=better games.
STOP.
WHINING.

When you are banned from COD or Halo multiplayer you can still play the single player game. Big difference.

[Robhask]

moilami wrote...
I wish I knew before I bought DA Ultimate Edition! Could had easily lived without it.

<Start of Line>

I just bought DA Ultimate but it still has the shrink-wrap on it, I'm considering my options. It just seems so much more etherial now, like if I touch it too hard it will disappear into a puff of smoke and the ghostly, haunting laughter of EA's lawyers. I know there's something etched onto the DVD, but I don't know what that means anymore, or if any prayer can bring its meaning back from the great banhammer in the sky.

So, having missed out on DA in the first place, I now have a question: If I install the Untimate Edition and line up all the little DLCs, and then somehow manage to say something to infuriate the masters of this place, I will lose both my saves and my access to the DLC itself? I honestly was not aware of this, if it's the case. Ultimate Editions are typically the place to purge these kinds of unclean sprits and that's exactly why I waited before buying it.

[Sharuko]

Haexpane wrote...

EA-Bioware already responded. They banned the guy for flaming the devs.

This is unacceptable.  You should be able to ban the guy from the forums but not the game.  After all he paid for the game.

[uncleho]

Man this really brought out all the internet heroes and internet lawyers (both of which seem to be everyone on the internet now). It's up to the person who got banned to fix his own problem.

[moilami]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Badgame wrote...

 The EULA violates first ammendment rights, and therefore would not stand up in the court of law. 

The first amendment only restricts the government's ability to limit your speech.  Private entities can limit your speech all they want.

Can private entities also steal your property because of what you said? In Finland they certainly can't. Which is by the way interesting in a way that could sue EA Finland if they would steal my property.

[StanleyW.isaMoron]

Its real simple. STOP SUPPORTING THESE COMPANIES.... PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS! THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT u.

Do not buy EA games!

www.donotbuyeagames.com

I purchased the domain today. I am going to take down the evil empire.

sTANLEY YOU ARE A MORON! yOU SHOULD BE bANNED FOR BEING A moron.

[RiouHotaru]

...Uhhh...did anyone miss the fact he bought the DIGITAL copy of the game, not a physical copy? So yeah, if his account got suspended he can't access the DIGITAL copy of the game that he purchased from the EA Store. The same thing can happen to Steam if your account gets suspended, since you have to access your account to get to your games.

So...really, basically he broke the rules, got a punishment which matched the crime, and as a side-effect, can't activate his game because he can't access his digital account to activate his digital copy. If he had installed it prior to making the inflammatory remark, he wouldn't be where he is now. So yeah, it's entirely the user's fault.

[Chris Priestly]

Here is my official response. You will likely see this picked up on news sites soon enough.

EA strictly enforces the code of conduct at Social.BioWare.com. If a player violates the rules by using profanity, they will be temporarily banned. Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account. Immediately upon learning of the glitch, EA restored the user's macro account and apologized for the inconvenience.

[Dragoonlordz]

No Bioware doesn't ban you from the game only the forums, EA only suspends or bans your EA account unfortuantly this has an added nasty effect of for specifically PC game players they seem to require to register the game before playing as opposed to console players who do not which is done through an EA account and which EA account you use is up to the player one assumes so overall doesn't stop you playing. With regard to DLC specifically UE which is same as I have is truly a epic version because contains every single possible DLC already on disc which means even if EA account got banned again this would have zero affect on your DLC because its all on disc with the product and requires no registration. (I do not know if the PC DLC if they have a GOTY UE version whether requires unlocking by logging into EA account or not).

[RiouHotaru]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Here is my official response. You will likely see this picked up on news sites soon enough.

EA strictly enforces the code of conduct at Social.BioWare.com. If a player violates the rules by using profanity, they will be temporarily banned. Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account. Immediately upon learning of the glitch, EA restored the user's macro account and apologized for the inconvenience.

Welp, you heard it from Chris personally folks.  Problem solved.

[Dragoonlordz]

RiouHotaru wrote...

...Uhhh...did anyone miss the fact he bought the DIGITAL copy of the game, not a physical copy? So yeah, if his account got suspended he can't access the DIGITAL copy of the game that he purchased from the EA Store. The same thing can happen to Steam if your account gets suspended, since you have to access your account to get to your games.

So...really, basically he broke the rules, got a punishment which matched the crime, and as a side-effect, can't activate his game because he can't access his digital account to activate his digital copy. If he had installed it prior to making the inflammatory remark, he wouldn't be where he is now. So yeah, it's entirely the user's fault.

He was quoted to me as buying/picked up from shop, which is not a digital download. Which version is true I would have to go re-read again. But either way I agree with your sentiment in general.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2011 - 10:19 .

[Badgame]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Again, let's keep software piracy out of the discussion, please. And now, let's please keep the real-world politics from invading the discussion. Thank you.

Haha!  Let's not talk about the reality of the situation.   Well, this will be my last post here.  Good luck being public gaming enemy number one!

Also, your policy creates piracy whether you acknowledge that or not.  You think that dood is gonna not download your game after you canned his account?  LOL!  In fact, he legally has a right to download it as he owns a purchased copy.  The law allows us to have a backup of any/all software.  The way in which we attain that software is not specified.

Anyway, good luck.

[_LordKain_]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Here is my official response. You will likely see this picked up on news sites soon enough.

EA strictly enforces the code of conduct at Social.BioWare.com. If a player violates the rules by using profanity, they will be temporarily banned. Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account. Immediately upon learning of the glitch, EA restored the user's macro account and apologized for the inconvenience.

Wait, so the guy ISN"T banned?  MUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

All this whining was for nothing.  NOTHING!

What now whiners?

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

_LordKain_ wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Here is my official response. You will likely see this picked up on news sites soon enough.

EA strictly enforces the code of conduct at Social.BioWare.com. If a player violates the rules by using profanity, they will be temporarily banned. Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account. Immediately upon learning of the glitch, EA restored the user's macro account and apologized for the inconvenience.

Wait, so the guy ISN"T banned?  MUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

All this whining was for nothing.  NOTHING!

What now whiners?

Could be just some Damage control/appeasment?

[Robhask]

Marsher wrote...
I think this might be exploding more than it should. EA saw a rule violation and took action.
Define the difference between this and being banned temporarily from COD multiplayer.

Well, there's really not much difference from a technical standpoint. But in terms of the game and the enviornment and the community, it's pretty different. When someone gets banned from COD it makes the game better for everyone else. Fewer fools running around always means better multiplayer. In fact, you could argue that the publisher even has a responsibility to do this, because it raises the quality of your purchace. But in a single-player game, it's hard to see something like this as anything but punitive. A smackdown just for the sake of a smackdown is not what banning is about.

[moilami]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

moilami wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

We really need a BioWare/EA official response to this issue, it's been a day already.

Definetly. This is news in many gaming sites. This was total breaking news for me. I was never aware my property could be stolen by a game company because of what I say in a forum. I wish I knew before I bought DA Ultimate Edition! Could had easily lived without it.

You sure like to use the word stolen or steal which implies the physical removal of a product or possession, this is factually incorrect in this case as the correct term is blocked or suspended. His account was suspended this in turn stopped him registering the game on that account for 72 hours. His DLC is still there but he will end up having to wait to access the content IF he actually bought any in the first place of which he has not said he did only people other than him saying he did.

The DRM true may be bad and may cause alot of problems given it's linking to the account, but all companies reserve the right to block ban or suspend your "account" the fact the DRM also blocked his offline play due to not being able to register his game is not the same issue imho.

When I used the word stealing I described the usage as "effectively stealing". I was fully aware he have the physical media, but if he can't use the content of physical media because of actions made by a company then the content has been effectively stolen from him by the said company.

[RiouHotaru]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Could be just some Damage control/appeasment?

Right because fixing an actual problem and apologizing for the inconveinence the problem caused (you know, taking responsibility for a mistake!) is "damage control".

[djackson75]

_LordKain_ wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Here is my official response. You will likely see this picked up on news sites soon enough.

EA strictly enforces the code of conduct at Social.BioWare.com. If a player violates the rules by using profanity, they will be temporarily banned. Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account. Immediately upon learning of the glitch, EA restored the user's macro account and apologized for the inconvenience.

Wait, so the guy ISN"T banned?  MUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

All this whining was for nothing.  NOTHING!

What now whiners?

You don't think that this 48+ page thread had anything to do with them reversing their ban? Especially since this thread has made it's rounds on the big gaming websites?