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[Pjwned]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Unfortunately, there was an error in the system that accidentally suspended a user's entire account.

I like how EA even has the ability to do that at all for any reason.  Yes, I love having access to my SINGLE PLAYER games potentially restricted because EA likes to slap their knob all over the place and you just have to swallow their load and deal with it.  This just proves that EA is in fact cancer.

[rolson00]

v_ware wrote...

Russalka wrote...

I ask again, has this ever happened to anyone else?

There was a guy on here a few pages back. He kinda got lost in between the celebration of me getting my account back.

He PM'd Chris Priestly and he just brushed the guy off saying that he was way to busy to spend time on his issue. He had more important things to do.

Actually I tried to look it up again and his posts got censored stating the message: We don't share PM's on here.

Don't know the full case, but this too seems pretty wrong.

to be fair he probs is i mean can u imagine the damage that Evil Arts has done to da2s sales?

[Lone_Anon]

aries1001 wrote...

As I understand the user got locked out for using profanity, not criticism of the game. As Priestly wrote/said EA monitors the forums for profanity. Probably by using a text parser that's set to flag or highlight certain words or phrases. What I don't understand is why the moderators just don't edit the post containing profanity.

And again, I really thought these Dragon Age forums were age gated so that you had to agree to that you were 18 or above? But that was maybe just on the old (now archived) Bioware forums?

They DO edit posts. It's more lies about the real ban reason. Look at this post.

http://social.biowar...5725/53#6485143

[Deadmac]

aries1001 wrote...
As I understand the user got locked out for using profanity, not criticism of the game. As Priestly wrote/said EA monitors the forums for profanity. Probably by using a text parser that's set to flag or highlight certain words or phrases. What I don't understand is why the moderators just don't edit the post containing profanity.

Good point. Instead of having an auto-ban system for certain violations, why don't they just edit the post quietly without making a big deal.

Modifié par Deadmac, 12 mars 2011 - 12:51 .

[v_ware]

rolson00 wrote...

v_ware wrote...

Russalka wrote...

I ask again, has this ever happened to anyone else?

There was a guy on here a few pages back. He kinda got lost in between the celebration of me getting my account back.

He PM'd Chris Priestly and he just brushed the guy off saying that he was way to busy to spend time on his issue. He had more important things to do.

Actually I tried to look it up again and his posts got censored stating the message: We don't share PM's on here.

Don't know the full case, but this too seems pretty wrong.

to be fair he probs is i mean can u imagine the damage that Evil Arts has done to da2s sales?

I actually have no idea what you're saying. Could you restate that please? English isn't my first language

[Russalka]

v_ware wrote...

There was a guy on here a few pages back. He kinda got lost in between the celebration of me getting my account back.

He PM'd Chris Priestly and he just brushed the guy off saying that he was way to busy to spend time on his issue. He had more important things to do.

The guy has been a homophobic troll all over the place, do check his wonderful posts in the M/M thread.
I bet he would not get the same support you are getting, were he in your specific situation.

[Deadmac]

Lone_Anon wrote...
They DO edit posts. It's more lies about the real ban reason. Look at this post.

http://social.biowar...5725/53#6485143

That is just messed up.

[v_ware]

Russalka wrote...

v_ware wrote...

There was a guy on here a few pages back. He kinda got lost in between the celebration of me getting my account back.

He PM'd Chris Priestly and he just brushed the guy off saying that he was way to busy to spend time on his issue. He had more important things to do.

The guy has been a homophobic troll all over the place, do check his wonderful posts in the M/M thread.
I bet he would not get the same support you are getting, were he in your specific situation.

Ah homophobic and a troll. Not cool. He should get no support, he got what was coming to him.

[rolson00]

v_ware wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

v_ware wrote...

Russalka wrote...

I ask again, has this ever happened to anyone else?

There was a guy on here a few pages back. He kinda got lost in between the celebration of me getting my account back.

He PM'd Chris Priestly and he just brushed the guy off saying that he was way to busy to spend time on his issue. He had more important things to do.

Actually I tried to look it up again and his posts got censored stating the message: We don't share PM's on here.

Don't know the full case, but this too seems pretty wrong.

to be fair he probs is i mean can u imagine the damage that Evil Arts has done to da2s sales?

I actually have no idea what you're saying. Could you restate that please? English isn't my first language

sorry pal,hear you go, chris could be busy EA could have potentially damaged DA2s sales and the bioware team are trying to repair the harm that was done

[Mashiki]

Alastanir wrote...

It's funny how that option isn't available untl after money has left my hands...

That of course is what makes EULA's either illegal or unenforcable depending on where you live.  

[v_ware]

rolson00 wrote...

sorry pal,hear you go, chris could be busy EA could have potentially damaged DA2s sales and the bioware team are trying to repair the harm that was done

They most definetly did harm the sales. The Securom thing and my problem certainly won't help sales.

[Pjwned]

Deadmac wrote...

BioWare social is not your average forums. Unlike the other online forums around the web, you exchanged currency to use these forums.

You are incredibly dense.  All you need to do is look at the World of Warcraft forums (where you need to have a current account to post) which costs $15/mo and you can get permanently suspended from their forums and you can't do jack **** about it.  Do you know why that is exactly?  It's because using their forums is a PRIVELEGE, not a right, and obviously the same thing applies here.

[tinfish]

Leon Zweihander wrote...

but I hope the sequel retains the tactical challenge and deep storyline that I found charming in the original.

Er.. well as long as you don't want tactical play or a deep storyline, you will be fine, those things put people off DA:O, so aren't present in DA2.

Story cut scenes are good, voice acting varies from good to passionless (Party members are great, but most NPC's forgot to pause for breath).
You remain an errand boy throughout, with no sense of achievement what so ever.
There isn't much in the way of tactical play, compared to DA:O it is mindless hack and slash at a silly pace.
Continuity is none existant, I own a share in a business, never seen a penny.
I went on a big expedition that made me rich according to the story (Actually cost 50 to go and you make 20, that would be a loss of 30 then!) etc, etc.
There is never a real feel of truly upgrading any equipment.
Companions seem to never change outfits, a change for each passing year too much to ask. (I know 2 that can, but the rest lol, get a bath)

The games fun, pretty and has nice characters and interaction, however that is it, you never get a feeling of advancing in the world or making a difference. Even the biggest fights are dead easy and require no thought, worse still the rewards are often terrible or none existant.
Actually, the worst thing is the re-use of the same maps throughout.
Its still good, but with an unfortunate air of disapointment.

[night0205]

So basically a big error was made... blamed on a glitch... and because Mr. Woo didn't really understand the situation... he puts up a policy that says the mistake was within their right and power to perform... which only fans the flames... and 56 threads closed and 56 pages later... here we are?

...what still concerns me is that doesn't the policy say they do have the right to ban people from playing the game? We know they have the power to either way... which is what I think most people are concerned about.

[Dragoonlordz]

tinfish wrote...

Leon Zweihander wrote...

but I hope the sequel retains the tactical challenge and deep storyline that I found charming in the original.

Er.. well as long as you don't want tactical play or a deep storyline, you will be fine, those things put people off DA:O, so aren't present in DA2.

 Made me laugh.

[Lone_Anon]

v_ware wrote...

Russalka wrote...

v_ware wrote...

There was a guy on here a few pages back. He kinda got lost in between the celebration of me getting my account back.

He PM'd Chris Priestly and he just brushed the guy off saying that he was way to busy to spend time on his issue. He had more important things to do.

The guy has been a homophobic troll all over the place, do check his wonderful posts in the M/M thread.
I bet he would not get the same support you are getting, were he in your specific situation.

Ah homophobic and a troll. Not cool. He should get no support, he got what was coming to him.

Don't be so accepting about what has happened to you. They STOLE from you because of your opnion about them. Whether they gave you your access back or not you need to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else. It's things like this that need attention to drawn to them to make sure they don't happen again. Don't shrug this off as a mistake. Please, make a public statement about this situation on Rocketpapershotgun or any other site covering your story. Be an activist and help save consumers from being stripped of their rights by big corporations like EA. We need your help in the fight against oppression.

Modifié par Lone_Anon, 12 mars 2011 - 01:01 .

[v_ware]

Mashiki wrote...

Alastanir wrote...

It's funny how that option isn't available untl after money has left my hands...

That of course is what makes EULA's either illegal or unenforcable depending on where you live.  

Where I live (Belgium) it's illegal. For a contract to be legally binding it needs to be signed BEFORE the purchase.

Sooo, good thing giving me my account back and apoligizing. The PR-nightmare probably is sufficient punishment anyway.

Modifié par v_ware, 12 mars 2011 - 01:06 .

[Nathander Von Eric]

Edit.

Meh. The heck with it. Not worth my time and I don't care enough to care.

Modifié par Nathander Von Eric, 12 mars 2011 - 01:15 .

[Dragoonlordz]

night0205 wrote...

So basically a big error was made... blamed on a glitch... and because Mr. Woo didn't really understand the situation... he puts up a policy that says the mistake was within their right and power to perform... which only fans the flames... and 56 threads closed and 56 pages later... here we are?

...what still concerns me is that doesn't the policy say they do have the right to ban people from playing the game? We know they have the power to either way... which is what I think most people are concerned about.

I think the power as such is more limited to one of two things the registration process or activation in other words and the download of data from their servers aka the digital distribution. I do not think anyone who has a physical copy would have anything to worry about with regard to console versions do not require activation but if you need to stream data aka DLC maybe it could cause you some issues as with if you have yet to register your copy. But that is more inline with the bad system they use for DRM though would be a improvement if the two weren't linked in such a big way.

[v_ware]

DP

Modifié par v_ware, 12 mars 2011 - 01:04 .

[Ob4rul3r]

v_ware wrote...

Mashiki wrote...

Alastanir wrote...

It's funny how that option isn't available untl after money has left my hands...

That of course is what makes EULA's either illegal or unenforcable depending on where you live.  

Where I live it's illegal. For a contract to be legally binding it needs to be signed BEFORE the purchase.

Sooo, good thing giving me my account back and apoligizing. The PR-nightmare probably is sufficient punishment anyway.

At least you're relatively famous now, the story was covered by a nice amount of gaming sites in various languages. xD

[night0205]

Yeah, you can play offline, after you have activated your account, and they can easily cut you off from any online service, including DLC that you paid for...
My question is... how come this guy couldn't play his game offline... was it before he activated his game?
What I'm wondering about is can Bioware/EA shut down your game over the internet while you are connected to the internet... making it so you can't play anything offline? That would be something

[Oslegend]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Oslegend wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

EA do not take part in these forums at all though which is why I asked on many occassions if the problem people have is with EA TOS and EULA stating they can ban you then take it to EA. The only people here are Bioware that post and they have already said they never ban accounts only forums privilages.

respond to my post please, you accuse me of being a troll yet you fail to respond to a logical argument i established.

Sorry took while to go back read more of your name calling and such as I tend to now skip over what you say because it always tends to start off or end with names being called.

All people have rights but those right come with responsabilities and breaching those rights by law your car, your house and your computer itself could be taken away from you in any country whether it's the USA or UK depending on your behavior if it's was serious enough such as a criminal activity. To say none can ever take what you pay for is nothing more than sniffing pixie dust, and does not exist. While you may argue that a company cannot removed your possesions if you breach their rules I suggest you look up the concept of Baliffs which have the right to come into your house and take such things if your behavior is of a serious enough cause to warrent the company seeking such services via a court which is more often than not granted.

As for this specific case which you claim isn't what your debating, it would have done you more favour to say it was, because I would agree in principle that a ban maybe harsh and while would be illegal to maybe ban based off only EULAs and TOS the fact is they didn't storm into his house take his game(s) and walk out saying would post them back in 3 days time... No they blocked access to his online based EA account.

The only thing I will side with you on if you was actually saying it which you are not is the simple fact the piracy protection they have requiring players on 'specific' systems and 'specific' forms of data making you register before use is a bit OTT and is what caused this persons block on his game. If he had registered it prior to starting all this he would not have been locked out at all from the game or the DLC if had dowloaded them and had registered his copy no block on his online EA account should of stopped him playing anything unless he fitted into BOTH those 'specific' things I just mentioned akin to playing on Steam which I know is not the case because he said so himself he bought from store.

Although your car/home can be taken away that is the gov't doing so, the car company cannot come in and take your vehicle back because of you trash talking them/criticizing them. Which is what ea is, the car company, not the gov't. And having someone have to register a game before talking on the forums in fear of losing that game is absurd. 

[Couch-Ninja]

I decided against the purchase of Dragon Age 2 due to a rather controversial issue that had caught my attention regarding one's EA account. While I did plan to purchase Mass Effect 2 this or next month, I have also retracted this idea for the same reason and more:

Voicing an honest opinion is appearantly a good reason to limit the use of an overpriced product, I do not blame Bioware on this department, only EA, whom is known to consumers for their draconian marketing strategies to obtain profits they do not deserve by any rational moral philosophy. But I'm not here to complain, I'm here to pose a much more critical question.

"Why the hell isn't any Dragon Age: Origins available for multiplayer to couple with its modding potential?"

I think I can answer that question. Neither of those qualities give either EA or Bioware any profits, yet they are qualities that will forever seperate who you used to be from who you are now.
I cannot help but be honest, dear Bioware. Ever since Neverwinter Nights your products have been nothing but 'lame' attempts to recreate a type of RPG that you used to be famous for. But ever since EA took over I noticed this is like Westwood and Bullfrog all over again. Don't get me wrong, I loved DA:Origins exactly for what it was, plenty of singleplayer action and most of the dialogue was belivable and entertaining. However, I am not fond of Dragon Age 2's attempt to be a Medieval Mass Effect, I'm still not quite sure what you are looking to achieve with that stupid and ultimately limited dialogue wheel, but I shall not press that particular issue.

On topic, I still play NWN1, I have a legal copy of NWN2 but I don't play it simply because it never lived up to the behemoth that your fine product from 8 years ago represents. This is because of two things. The multiplayer potential it has along with the toolset, and the infinite replayability provided by easy modding. I can say that, compared to any game Bioware or Obsidian has released since, NWN1 is still the crowning jewel of your achievement in this industry. The (free) CEP expansion pack is vastly superior to any DLC that ever appeared on the market for any game in the last decade. Neverwinter Nights has been my favorite game ever since I purchased it, it even taught me to type mostly proper english. And all that was great about it, I realize, is 'not' profitable. And they are things I will 'never' see again in your products.
Replayability means you cannot sell new games unless they meet the standard set by the game in question. Moddability means that DLC is a pointless creation meant only for extra profits (which is no secret to anyone.) These things that make games great are simply to no benefit to you or your producer, and for this I have now stopped purchasing your products.

You are dead to me, Bioware. You were up there with Blizzard, Eidos and Ubisoft. But now you're EA's little ***** and you will perish just like Westwood and Bullfrog, your franchises will be exploited and be given lackluster sequels that in no way ressemble what was loved about their predecessors. You will become a sacrifice torn between angry customers and pushy producers. I will never again see a true sequel to Neverwinter Nights. Even the upcomming title is nothing but a mockery. Seriously? An MMO? I can already tell it has nothing in common with NWN1 except the D&D settings it was put in. No toolset, no moddability, and alot of paid DLC that is composed of useless, undesirable content. This all coupled with monthly payments.

I can be banned for this post on your forums, but that matters little because I use this forum merely to convey this single message of my concern to you. And EA can never touch my Neverwinter Nights purchase or account, it predates their tyranny and in this I can derive a small sense of pride. I paid for it and all it's expansion packs, It is supported by Gamespy and quite beyond EA's ability to sabotage. Due to these facts alone one may already consider this 8 year old gem a game to be superior to whatever crap EA is now trying to sell with your brand name on it. And I will forever cherish the name Bioware for having produced Neverwinter Nights, there is yet to be a game that can truely compete with the acessibilty for modders and replayability for players that this game has given us, and I do not regret a single moment I spent with it. Thank you and my condoleance, Bioware. And **** you, EA games. Goodnight.

[v_ware]

Ob4rul3r wrote...
At least you're relatively famous now, the story was covered by a nice amount of gaming sites in various languages. xD

Hah, internet fame. If that accounts for everything.
No, I think the story will remain known, as it should be. Game companies pulling dick moves like this is absolutely unacceptable.