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#201
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Lawrence- Mage of the Grey Wardens wrote...

This is hilarious, in that sad, evil laugh kinda way.


"EA is the devil" isn't even something to get a ban over.

lol I hope the dude sues and gets a gajillion dollars.

The guy paid his $60 and 5 extra dollars for tax. You can't take away his ability to play the game...he's paid for it.

At least give him a free game for his trouble. It's the least EA could do considering this is illegal.

Oh, yeah, of course!

Let's reward *****!

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#202
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You know when this forum was created the people working at Bioware were so excited to be able to talk with their fans. Now the mods just ban people without reason or notice and delete any threads that disagree with their game and its wrong. Over the past few years we've seen Bioware change from a respected and loved game company to one that literally rolls and and bows down to their EA gods while rushing out overpriced content and dlc fully taking advantage of their now dwindling reputation.

We have Bioware admiting to rushing this game out while charging us $10 more than other games. For what? Are we just a bunch of cows put on this earth to hand you over money? Im starting to really get pissed off about this and honestly, I demand this be made right. I refuse to hand you money for a rushed product and mark my word this is the last game I will ever purchase from Bioware.

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kind of the same thing, except the guy didnt need to get a loan to purchase a crappy game. All the same, indefensible by ea bioware

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MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful


Have you even read that thread? JEBUS, have some reading comprehension men. He even posted his profile that stated he was banned from playing the game, furthermore Stanley even said that it is IN their TOS to get banned from playing the game.

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Esau_of_Isaac wrote...

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ZacOfTheZombies wrote...

Bioware is being a bit childish about this whole thing. It's one thing to ban people for blatently trolling, it's quite another to ban someone because they don't like your newest game.


Bioware didn't ban him, neither did EA they suspended him for reasons he claims were just bad mouthing them.

Irrelevant. He stated he was barred from being capable of playing EA titles he had already owned such as Dragon Age: Origins. If you support this product you are at best woefully ignorant, at worst braindead. Or, possibly, an employee of the company trying in the most tactless and disgusting manner to present some form of damage control. I mean, I don't believe that, but how hilarious would it be, right?


I have never been banned nor have you nor has any other person posting in here by EA or Bioware from playing your games, why would I boycott a company that has actually never done anything to me that could be considered bad in anyway other than taking one of my new favorite game series in direction I don't approve of so yes your quite right I will continue to buy Bioware games as will 99% of the people jumping up and down, the only ones who will not are very few self righteous or angry people and the rest do not own and have never planned on owning a bioware title in the first place. Those are the ones with new accounts created on mass today with no prior game history making these threads, whos comment history is only relating specifically to this one subject.

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MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful


you seem to have missed the part where they admitted he was banned from playing the game, also he showed a cap of his account saying he was banned. 

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MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful


This.

And I suggest you do what I did: Grab a bite, pop in a game and refresh the page to see the next RAGE post. Dual entertainment.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Xsquader wrote...

StanleyWoo I do agree that the extent of things going on are a bit much but I think it would calm down some with an official word from bioware on the matter... Just saying sometimes a little public relations helps ya know :)

This whole issue began after the office had closed, and dealing with it kept me at the office several hours later than I'd intended for today. As of this posting, it is 10:45pm. All I wanted was a "stay of execution" until tomorrow morning. Ah well, the internet...


Well it's a serious mistake on your part (or your parent company's part) so, without being insulting, you kind of deserve to work overtime on it.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

ZacOfTheZombies wrote...

Bioware is being a bit childish about this whole thing. It's one thing to ban people for blatently trolling, it's quite another to ban someone because they don't like your newest game.


Bioware didn't ban him, neither did EA they suspended him for reasons he claims were just bad mouthing them.

Irrelevant. He stated he was barred from being capable of playing EA titles he had already owned such as Dragon Age: Origins. If you support this product you are at best woefully ignorant, at worst braindead. Or, possibly, an employee of the company trying in the most tactless and disgusting manner to present some form of damage control. I mean, I don't believe that, but how hilarious would it be, right?


I have never been banned nor have you nor has any other person posting in here by EA or Bioware from playing your games, why would I boycott a company that has actually never done anything to me that could be considered bad in anyway other than taking one of my new favorite game series in direction I don't approve of so yes your quite right I will continue to buy Bioware games as will 99% of the people jumping up and down, the only ones who will not are very few self righteous or angry people and the rest do not own and have never planned on owning a bioware title in the first place. Those are the ones with new accounts created on mass today with no prior game history making these threads, whos comment history is only relating specifically to this one subject.


Why does someone need to be a long standing member of the Social Network in order to voice their opinion? Joining date doesn't mean diddly, the comments do.

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StingingVelvet wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Xsquader wrote...

StanleyWoo I do agree that the extent of things going on are a bit much but I think it would calm down some with an official word from bioware on the matter... Just saying sometimes a little public relations helps ya know :)

This whole issue began after the office had closed, and dealing with it kept me at the office several hours later than I'd intended for today. As of this posting, it is 10:45pm. All I wanted was a "stay of execution" until tomorrow morning. Ah well, the internet...


Well it's a serious mistake on your part (or your parent company's part) so, without being insulting, you kind of deserve to work overtime on it.

Yeah, because that guy that can't play his game is writhing in agony.

You might want to reevaluate your definition of ''deserve'' a little more.

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It isn't Stanley Woo's fault. It may be who he works for but he himself doesn't deserve to work overtime on it. He might have a family, a wife, kids, or just some other plans that have just been ruined. Have some kind of understanding of the situation from the point of view of a single worker who wasn't involved most likely.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

ZacOfTheZombies wrote...

Bioware is being a bit childish about this whole thing. It's one thing to ban people for blatently trolling, it's quite another to ban someone because they don't like your newest game.


Bioware didn't ban him, neither did EA they suspended him for reasons he claims were just bad mouthing them.

Irrelevant. He stated he was barred from being capable of playing EA titles he had already owned such as Dragon Age: Origins. If you support this product you are at best woefully ignorant, at worst braindead. Or, possibly, an employee of the company trying in the most tactless and disgusting manner to present some form of damage control. I mean, I don't believe that, but how hilarious would it be, right?


I have never been banned nor have you nor has any other person posting in here by EA or Bioware from playing your games, why would I boycott a company that has actually never done anything to me that could be considered bad in anyway other than taking one of my new favorite game series in direction I don't approve of so yes your quite right I will continue to buy Bioware games as will 99% of the people jumping up and down, the only ones who will not are very few self righteous or angry people and the rest do not own and have never planned on owning a bioware title in the first place. Those are the ones with new accounts created on mass today with no prior game history making these threads, whos comment history is only relating specifically to this one subject.


It's called solidarity.
Try it.

It's how revolutions are made, both big and small, or have you not been following the news recently about how solidarity can make a change? You're coming off as a bit of a ****** and quite ignorant.
Try not to do that.

I've bought alot of bioware games, not just for the windows platform, but for other platforms aswell. I'll await an official response from EA and in the meantime I will be holding on to my wallet.:wub: I haven't tied any games to this account (Last time I checked) because of reasons like these. 

Modifié par mpxlbs, 11 mars 2011 - 06:28 .


#213
Esau_of_Isaac

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

ZacOfTheZombies wrote...

Bioware is being a bit childish about this whole thing. It's one thing to ban people for blatently trolling, it's quite another to ban someone because they don't like your newest game.


Bioware didn't ban him, neither did EA they suspended him for reasons he claims were just bad mouthing them.

Irrelevant. He stated he was barred from being capable of playing EA titles he had already owned such as Dragon Age: Origins. If you support this product you are at best woefully ignorant, at worst braindead. Or, possibly, an employee of the company trying in the most tactless and disgusting manner to present some form of damage control. I mean, I don't believe that, but how hilarious would it be, right?


I have never been banned nor have you nor has any other person posting in here by EA or Bioware from playing your games, why would I boycott a company that has actually never done anything to me that could be considered bad in anyway other than taking one of my new favorite game series in direction I don't approve of so yes your quite right I will continue to buy Bioware games as will 99% of the people jumping up and down, the only ones who will not are very few self righteous or angry people and the rest do not own and have never planned on owning a bioware title in the first place. Those are the ones with new accounts created on mass today with no prior game history making these threads, whos comment history is only relating specifically to this one subject.

So what if you have never had your account banned? If you have seen evidence of another individual's account being suspended or banned over an opinion, what in your brain could possibly support such a situation? 

I can't speak for any of the other forum-goers here that have arrived to complain of the situation, however I am very serious when I state that I will likely never buy another EA product again if I don't see a serious, tactful response by the company as to why this occurred. 

#214
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Quick Keele! Drink some more kool aid! youre not establishment enough.

Also looks like riccitellos knob needs polishing again, have at it!

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Xsquader wrote...

It isn't Stanley Woo's fault. It may be who he works for but he himself doesn't deserve to work overtime on it. He might have a family, a wife, kids, or just some other plans that have just been ruined. Have some kind of understanding of the situation from the point of view of a single worker who wasn't involved most likely.


If a man from the military suddenly got ambushed and can't come home, does he need pity? No! Because it's his job, working overtime is irrelevant. If you can't work overtime then you are not capable of the job. This is his job, don't stop him from doing his job but force him to say something regarding this matter.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

maxut85 wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

grushvak wrote...

We're not causing grief, we're raising awareness. It's ok, it's a common mistake.


Your raising awareness of something thats been around for years that hasn't changed? Do you want a pat on the back or a cookie? Any company can ban you from using their products whether its games, music or movies discs. Specifically any of them which use a EULA which is thousends of companies. Regardless of legal or illegal if you personaly are affected by it, then by all means go to court get it overturned, people claim its illegal it canbe overturned so what exactly are you raising awareness of? .. Nothing that hasn't existed for  many, many years. The only difference now is all of sudden a million new accounts pop up on Bioware forums claiming to fight for justice for a. a person who doesn't seek it himself and b. had no proof of why he got banned in reality.


Your argument seems to be: "Entertainment companies have been screwing customers for years, why are you now getting upset about it?".


LOL, you're right, it has been going on for years but people are tolerant and tend to put up with BS for a while before they fight back. The fight has now begun though.



but what are we going to do to fight ?


What we are doing, speaking out. It has more power than you realize. Before this is done EA will have to reconsider this policy at the very least and they may even change it.


Actually I don't think they will and I don't think they have too... This so called revolution is tiny in reality between a few twitters/reddits/game sites and forums. This isn't the issue that's going to force any companies walls to come crashing down around them by any means.


I never said the walls would come crashing down, I said they will have to reconsider the policy and perhaps change it. Don't be overly dramatic with my words, please.

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StingingVelvet wrote...
Well it's a serious mistake on your part (or your parent company's part) so, without being insulting, you kind of deserve to work overtime on it.


Seriously, is there a reason to be rude to the poor guy? Regardless of if the ban was warrented or not, regarless of if it's going to be bad PR, and regardless of yours and my personal opinions on the workings and shortcomings of EA/Bioware policy, there's no reason to shoot the messenger.
Those of us in customer service/IT support and similar areas get this all the time. Blame and responsibility for decisions that are neither our fault, nor something we have the authority to deal with.

Disagree with the policy and situation as much as you like, but don't tell the poor community rep that it's his responsibility to work overtime and deal with the mess that's likely far above his authority.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...


It isn't upto Bioware what EA do with regard to the pyhsical product, it is an issue regarding EA suspending him, nothing really Bioware could do would change that. Just because they didn't jump up and down fought WW3 for thisperson who was merely suspended for breaking EA rules whatever the real reason behind the suspension this does not make proof that his claims were true. Please note the original guy in question admited he did was wrong. He is not the one fighting with EA or Bioware over this, it's other people fighting a cuase he never asked to be fought.


Perhaps I did not make my point clearly enough.

Stanley Woo has the necessary access to determine whether this person was telling the truth. If this person was lying, it is in Stanley Woo's best interests to reveal that lie, especially given that every single person in the original thread agreed that 'what happened to you was, like, totally bogus dude. Down with the man. Fight the power.' Instead, Stanley Woo implicitly agreed that his account of events was true, and explained why his actions resulted in the described outcome.

So firstly, it is extremely disingenuous of you to continue saying things like 'if his claims are even true'. It can be safely assumed that they are and I think at this point anyone who has read the original thread should know this.

Secondly: these forums are our conduit to EA. By voicing our displeasure here, our displeasure may eventually be heard by EA. Hence my previous comment about the DRM from Mass Effect which you conveniently ignored.

Thirdly: I disagree with the original poster that what he did was particularly wrong, and rather suspect that he didn't think it was either, and was just trying to employ a diplomatic means of getting access to the game he paid for without any further trouble.

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epiccrabs wrote...

Xsquader wrote...

It isn't Stanley Woo's fault. It may be who he works for but he himself doesn't deserve to work overtime on it. He might have a family, a wife, kids, or just some other plans that have just been ruined. Have some kind of understanding of the situation from the point of view of a single worker who wasn't involved most likely.


If a man from the military suddenly got ambushed and can't come home, does he need pity? No! Because it's his job, working overtime is irrelevant. If you can't work overtime then you are not capable of the job. This is his job, don't stop him from doing his job but force him to say something regarding this matter.


He did say something, and like I said, I'm at least willing to give Bioware a grace period to justify themselves, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. And if they can't, well, let's just say I'll use the song in DA:O trailer to express my feeling on the matter then...

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People should stop assuming that Stanley Woo has any say in EA's policies. He is not personally responsible for what happened today.

People should also stop assuming that working overtime is such a big deal. It happens. He's not a martyr, he's just doing his job, and these are extenuating circumstances that probably do not happen too often.

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grushvak wrote...

People should stop assuming that Stanley Woo has any say in EA's policies. He is not personally responsible for what happened today.


No one says he has a personal say. But right now he's the sole EA/Bioware rep even addressing the matter.

No one thinks the President's Press Secretary has ANY say in public policy, but you can bet his ass gets grilled every time he takes to a podium.

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You know it's a sad situation here. (Not because a guy got banned believe me in 3 days he will get over it and then he will play the game he claims to hate) The dev's here created the fourm to personally interact with the fans. Yes, there are a few mods here.

But for the most part, it's the dev's who have been doing the mods jobs by locking down threads and deleting them. This is unfair to bioware team, i.e. when Blizzard or Rift has an offical fourm. They require you to actually register a game or you are not able to post there.

And the people working at Rift, or Blizzard have mods of their own whom they pay. So they rarely personally interact with the fanbase. Bioware has allowed us to personally reach the devs who worked so hard on the games, these guys are some published aurthors, who have effectively built a gaming empire.

Yet is that going to their head? no are they blowing off customers? no. They are here and interact with us daily, the same people who are on the devs team are here talking to us everyday. What do re do in return for them being so kind, we take advantage of it. Because a single person got into a hissy fit because he was suspended for 3 days!

And the sad part of the fact is Bioware is not even the one who did it!, it was EA! And he comes here, forcing the devs to workovertime by locking and deleting the threads! and what was the crime that called for all this outrage. A lone gamer with too much time on his hands, creating a hell storm because he was to WAIT for 3 days.

If you ask me, other companys would have banned his ISP for good from the account. Proof that they allowed this thread to exist shows they are reasonable and able to co exist,

however EA did this not bioware. And EA was correct in their auctions before the person insulted their company. It wasn't a ban, and the devs who do so much for us. This is how you thank them, where would we be without bioware, no SWTOR MMO, No Mass Effect1-2-3, or DA-1-2 and again they did not even suspend the person.

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epiccrabs wrote...

MColes wrote...

This is the stupidest thread in the history of the BioWare forums, and that's saying something. All these random internet ragers are coming here, based on absolutely zero proof, from one side or the other. Apparently, all the people believe everything they read on the internet. No one actually KNOWS that this guy got banned, like really from forum or game. It's just reading a forum post and RAGING full of assumptions with no evidence. You whole lot are disgraceful


Have you even read that thread? JEBUS, have some reading comprehension men. He even posted his profile that stated he was banned from playing the game, furthermore Stanley even said that it is IN their TOS to get banned from playing the game.


That's funny cause I did.  Have you actually LOOKED at the account that was linked? Read the posts THAT account made?

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mpxlbs wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Esau_of_Isaac wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

ZacOfTheZombies wrote...

Bioware is being a bit childish about this whole thing. It's one thing to ban people for blatently trolling, it's quite another to ban someone because they don't like your newest game.


Bioware didn't ban him, neither did EA they suspended him for reasons he claims were just bad mouthing them.

Irrelevant. He stated he was barred from being capable of playing EA titles he had already owned such as Dragon Age: Origins. If you support this product you are at best woefully ignorant, at worst braindead. Or, possibly, an employee of the company trying in the most tactless and disgusting manner to present some form of damage control. I mean, I don't believe that, but how hilarious would it be, right?


I have never been banned nor have you nor has any other person posting in here by EA or Bioware from playing your games, why would I boycott a company that has actually never done anything to me that could be considered bad in anyway other than taking one of my new favorite game series in direction I don't approve of so yes your quite right I will continue to buy Bioware games as will 99% of the people jumping up and down, the only ones who will not are very few self righteous or angry people and the rest do not own and have never planned on owning a bioware title in the first place. Those are the ones with new accounts created on mass today with no prior game history making these threads, whos comment history is only relating specifically to this one subject.


It's called solidarity.
Try it.

It's how revolutions are made, both big and small, or have you not been following the news recently about how solidarity can make a change? You're coming off as a bit of a ****** and quite ignorant.
Try not to do that.

I've bought alot of bioware games, not just for the windows platform, but for other platforms aswell. I'll await an official response from EA and in the meantime I will be holding on to my wallet.:wub:


How I come across to you is of no importance your of no interest to me other than your speaking to me in form of reply. Why should I show solidarity for someone who did something wrong and got punshed and isn't the one causing all this grief. I won't jump up and down over some idiot who got console banned by Microsoft for hacking a game why should I do so for someone who got suspended for what he claims was only making a statement of which I have no REAL evidence that was the real reason for it.

If a company does something to me that I don't like guess what? I can take my business elsewhere I wouldn't want or care for some internet ragest by some random people I don't know trying to fight a battle for me I never asked for or wanted.

You need to grow up, this guy didn't need his hand held and people to fight for him and nither would I. Your view on what is just and fair may be different to others so why should I support your version of fair based on events you don't know the full side of the story too from both sides. 

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If you follow the link provided by the guy that was banned and look at his recent posting history, it's pretty clear that he was temp-banned for something other then his statements about EA or Bioware. In particular, there is one exchange that he had with another poster where at least one of his posts (and the other persons) were deleted by a mod, though someone had already quoted them so you can see them later in the thread. That's why he was banned, as Mr. Woo's comments clearly indicate someone reported something said as inappropriate.

That all said, I do agree with others that it's unfair and legally questionable to tie a single-player game to good standing on a message board.