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[patocerda]

You know... I still see BioWare as a developer that in general crafts their games with care, so I just can't imagine them releasing it before Q4, in fact, I expect something more along the lines of Q1-Q2 2012...but for that to happen, BioWare, you should do as indicated in Bluko's post.

Hold the Line!!

[Ty2011]

I agree. I just hope Bioware abides by the :"if it ain't broke don't fix it" rule. Don't get me wrong there's a lot to fix, I just don't want them over-polishing and changing everything that makes this game great. Spending a year developing a game that is already done gives me the impression that many good things will be changed and moved around just because they have to "keep working on it". But I don't know how it works.. just speculation.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Bumping in support.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

i demand satisfaction (and the playable beta for mass effect 3)

[FDrage]

Hasn't ME3 with its projected release window a similar development cycle then ME1 to ME2 (ok .. probably 2 month short or so)? in that case I probably wouldn't worry too much. Specifically after ME2s success they might even have quite a few more resources (staff, money, etc.) to bring to the ME3 development process ... ok that is just my speculation.

With DA2 I was quite a bit surprise at the announcement of the game (didn't expect it so soon) as well as the firm release date that far in advance. But with ME2 they've got a proven track record, while some of the design and game play decisions weren't to my liking (and still aren't even after quite a few play troughs) overall ME2 still proved to be quite the success. So they've showed that they CAN pull it off.

[Kusy]

Pffffhahaha... whatever guys. Release date is set on this year and that's all. Not to mention anyone from EA cares about this "please" or any other "please" thread here.

[Fdingo]

Video games get pushed back all the time though.

[Kusy]

You don't tell people that you plan on releasing a game on holidays and then push it back. It's critical time window, if you say you do, you have to. Unless you're Blizzard.

[Kronner]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

You don't tell people that you plan on releasing a game on holidays and then push it back. It's critical time window, if you say you do, you have to. Unless you're Blizzard.

They might be afraid of going head to head against Skyrim though. I think it is likely that ME3's release will be pushed to January 2012.

[Fdingo]

Gears 3 was supposed to come out in April and was pushed back to September and that April date had been known for a long time.

[Mister Mida]

Kronner wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

You don't tell people that you plan on releasing a game on holidays and then push it back. It's critical time window, if you say you do, you have to. Unless you're Blizzard.

They might be afraid of going head to head against Skyrim though. I think it is likely that ME3's release will be pushed to January 2012.

Funny you say that since in another thread some time ago I said EA wouldn't push back the release since that would be a silent admission that ME3 can't hold up against Skyrim.

[Fdingo]

I think that in terms of both sales and goty awards it would make more sense for them to release ME3 in 2012. Q3 & 4 of this year are full of heavy hitters.

[Kronner]

Mister Mida wrote...

Funny you say that since in another thread some time ago I said EA wouldn't push back the release since that would be a silent admission that ME3 can't hold up against Skyrim.

What admission, they care only about money, as they should. Like it or not, TES is simply a bigger name than ME. Personally, I vastly prefer ME, but I do not think it can outsell Skyrim, and going directly against Skyrim might not be very smart.

[Kusy]

Fidingo, what I said is - holiday time is a friggin critical period. You don't go telling people you're releasing in that window and then change plans, it's like telling kids that santa don't exist. Setting a release date on April and pushing it back few months is compleatly another thing than setting a release for around christmass and changing your mind. If you're not sure about that kind of thing you say "Q4 2011" or just "2011". EA is compleatly sure they will sell on holidays or they are stupid.

[ShepardOsiris]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Fidingo, what I said is - holiday time is a friggin critical period. You don't go telling people you're releasing in that window and then change plans, it's like telling kids that santa don't exist. Setting a release date on April and pushing it back few months is compleatly another thing than setting a release for around christmass and changing your mind. If you're not sure about that kind of thing you say "Q4 2011" or just "2011". EA is compleatly sure they will sell on holidays or they are stupid.

  I'm sorry, but what your saying is just not accurate.  Bioware saying Q4 instead of say 11-15-11 is definately a placeholder launch window, it's not like anything is set in stone at that stage, especially not when that window is given a year or more in advance.   It's a target, and targets can change.  I don't know how closely you follow the gaming industry, but it's an annual occurance, that at least a few major games that are slated at one time to launch in that Q4 window, end up being pushed to the following year for either technical or more often strategic reasons. 

  Years ago, your point was maybe more valid, when the industry had this insane idea that most of thier major sales had to take place during the holiday period, and there was then more of a negative look on games that bailed out of a holiday launch window.  Fact is, though, that is far from the truth anymore.  

  I think your probably right that at the time that Bioware and EA put out the launch window of Q4 2011, which was going on 4 months ago already, that they had every intention to ship then, and they may still.  However, when you project that far ahead, you don't know what everyone else is going to do.  In the last few months, Q4 is getting more and more crowded looking, and with some very big games.  Mass Effect 3 is a big release, and will no doubt be critically acclaimed, but it isn't one of the real big boys.  

  Bioware and EA can't just set thier own terms without any consideration for what else is out there like Epic and Microsft can with Halo or Gears of War, or Elder Scrolls or GTA or Call of Duty, or several others.  Mass Effect doesn't have huge sales numbers to shoulder any blows it takes from other competitors, if too many big sellers start popping up in thier release window, they have to potentially rethink launch dates, they would be idiots not to.  

 

Modifié par ShepardOsiris, 16 mars 2011 - 12:34 .

[Julie the bogan]

You guys are a little loopy and I love you all

[HBC Dresden]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Fidingo, what I said is - holiday time is a friggin critical period. You don't go telling people you're releasing in that window and then change plans, it's like telling kids that santa don't exist. Setting a release date on April and pushing it back few months is compleatly another thing than setting a release for around christmass and changing your mind. If you're not sure about that kind of thing you say "Q4 2011" or just "2011". EA is compleatly sure they will sell on holidays or they are stupid.

January 27, 2010: Mass Effect 2 released for the PC and Xbox 360.

Bioshock 2 announced for 2009 holiday season but delayed. Released February 9, 2010.
StarCraft II announced for 2009 holiday season but delayed. Released July 27, 2010.

No problem in delaying past holiday season. It's all about the game.

[Darth Death]

"We're already working on 'Mass Effect 3' right now. We do want to develop it in concert with listening to the way people are experiencing 'Mass Effect 2'. We've got a lot of DLC coming out for 'Mass Effect 2' that we're also working on, and then we'll kind of blend that into developing and finishing 'Mass Effect 3'. We don't want to take forever with it. We want people to be able to conclude this trilogy that have been with us over the years... [Development will be] along the same kind of time frame as 'Mass Effect 2'." - Hudson

http://multiplayerbl...-between-games/

[Tarek]

yes I agree take your time

TAKE YOUR TIME DON"T RUSH IT

plz you will lose more money in the long run if the game fails trust me.

[Franzius]

Darth Death wrote...

"We're already working on 'Mass Effect 3' right now. We do want to develop it in concert with listening to the way people are experiencing 'Mass Effect 2'. We've got a lot of DLC coming out for 'Mass Effect 2' that we're also working on, and then we'll kind of blend that into developing and finishing 'Mass Effect 3'. We don't want to take forever with it. We want people to be able to conclude this trilogy that have been with us over the years... [Development will be] along the same kind of time frame as 'Mass Effect 2'." - Hudson

http://multiplayerbl...-between-games/

It seems that Bioware has learned very well how to lie to his customers...
Maybe I am wrong but I can remeber easily:
-) ME2 an PC/Xbox exclusive
-) Priestly Fake post about PS3 shortage of ME2;
-) EA about ME2 on PS3 being a sales success;
-) DA2 to be an rpg like the first one...
-) Self made reviews on metacritic

The truth is: ME2 has been released on Jannuary 2010.
In the meanwhile they have some DLC (another one is next to be released) and the PS3 port.
Now they have to develop a game on 3 different system in less than 2 year.
The only way to do that is that ME3 will be "ME2 second part": everything will remain the same (minus planet scanning I think).
This will means to me only one thing: no more day1 no more collector/limited edition: I will take ME3 only when it will become super discounted.

I foreseen that ME3 will sold less than 2 that has sold less than 1.

This is a HUGE failure Bioware

[Gatt9]

Kronner wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

You don't tell people that you plan on releasing a game on holidays and then push it back. It's critical time window, if you say you do, you have to. Unless you're Blizzard.

They might be afraid of going head to head against Skyrim though. I think it is likely that ME3's release will be pushed to January 2012.

I doubt it,  Zenimax is standing on Bethseda to get that out the door because they've had to borrow hundreds of millions to buy studios,  and Bethseda's the only studio they've got that's released a game in many years.  Skyrim will be rushed,  and very likely poorly received. 

Especially since Bethseda's burned *alot* of bridges with the way they treat fans.

[Evil Johnny 666]

Gatt9 wrote...

Kronner wrote...

They might be afraid of going head to head against Skyrim though. I think it is likely that ME3's release will be pushed to January 2012.

I doubt it,  Zenimax is standing on Bethseda to get that out the door because they've had to borrow hundreds of millions to buy studios,  and Bethseda's the only studio they've got that's released a game in many years.  Skyrim will be rushed,  and very likely poorly received. 

Especially since Bethseda's burned *alot* of bridges with the way they treat fans.

I don't get it. Personally, ME3 will be a rent, especially with Skyrim coming out aound the same time, I won't feel inclined AT ALL to play the game for some time. And people don't look at Skyrim as bleakly as you make it out. Yes people are concerned over several aspects, but others are seem by people favourably, to a lot of people including myself who judge Oblivion quite harshily. To me, it HAS to be a step up from Oblivion. More distinct areas, a real mix of cities and real villages/settlements, people actually giving you directions for quests, sometimes making you follow them rather than the brainless GPS, level scaling more akin to Fallout 3, levels locking in dungeons you already explored, generated quests back, much more dynamic cities, etc. Skyrims seems like it has a lot of improvements over Oblivion, fixing a lot of problems. I'm still concerned about skills, but the way perks are handled could make it actually pretty good. I also hope level scaling will be more limited and travel systems will be back. But one thing's for sure, it WILL be better than Oblivion, which is all I ask so far and considering some very cool additions to the series - mining, wood-cutting, etc.. for example - I'm sure it will be a great game. Skyrim has been worked on since Oblivion too, I'm confident it won't be rushed. Oh, and generated land is gone too. Dungeon designers are far more numerous too.

Modifié par Evil Johnny 666, 16 mars 2011 - 07:34 .

[lovgreno]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Dark side?  No.  I'm still optimistic, but that's because Mass Effect hasn't let me down yet.

Yes, Cheez. Search your feelings. ME3 is gonna suck and you already know it.

If you have decided that ME3 will suck it surely will for you even if everyone else thinks it's awesome. I choose to be positive instead as that is necesary to enjoy good things, games for example.

Anyway, back to topic and actualy interesting and relevant things:
To OP:  I agree. I got the feeling ME3 may be rushed too. But there was years between ME1 and 2 and that didn't mean people forgott how much they liked ME1. Some sequells of films and games takes even more time but this doeas't change the fact that if the film or game is good it will sell well anyway. Also if ME3 is a big success it means that people will see that EA and BioWare can make more than one good and successfull sequell, something that is quite rare. So as far as I can see there is everything to win by taking more time with the game if necesary.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Franzius wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

"We're already working on 'Mass Effect 3' right now. We do want to develop it in concert with listening to the way people are experiencing 'Mass Effect 2'. We've got a lot of DLC coming out for 'Mass Effect 2' that we're also working on, and then we'll kind of blend that into developing and finishing 'Mass Effect 3'. We don't want to take forever with it. We want people to be able to conclude this trilogy that have been with us over the years... [Development will be] along the same kind of time frame as 'Mass Effect 2'." - Hudson

http://multiplayerbl...-between-games/

It seems that Bioware has learned very well how to lie to his customers...
Maybe I am wrong but I can remeber easily:
-) ME2 an PC/Xbox exclusive
-) Priestly Fake post about PS3 shortage of ME2;
-) EA about ME2 on PS3 being a sales success;
-) DA2 to be an rpg like the first one...
-) Self made reviews on metacritic

The truth is: ME2 has been released on Jannuary 2010.
In the meanwhile they have some DLC (another one is next to be released) and the PS3 port.
Now they have to develop a game on 3 different system in less than 2 year.
The only way to do that is that ME3 will be "ME2 second part": everything will remain the same (minus planet scanning I think).
This will means to me only one thing: no more day1 no more collector/limited edition: I will take ME3 only when it will become super discounted.

I foreseen that ME3 will sold less than 2 that has sold less than 1.

This is a HUGE failure Bioware

Um, both Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 1 sold 1.6 million copies each.  Also lol at the continuing rage that PS3 owners got to play ME2.  Greedy little guy, arentcha?