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Soilborn88 wrote...

In Dragon Age 2 the main story feels as if there is no greater purpose, or greater goal. In Origins it was clear what the goal was and what you're purpose was, to survive, build an army and battle the dark spawn with the odds against you. The story telling, the atmosphere, the world, and depth were what made Origins feel epic.


This is exactly what I'm talking about.  Just because you don't have the kindly mentor telling you in the beginning who the final boss is so you can get all amped up and ready for it doesn't mean it's any less epic a rise.  If anything, it's more like, "Okay, I know that my guy becomes the ultimate badass.  Seriously, how do I get there?"

The goal of the game IS the journey.  Too many people aren't seeing that.  They'd rather have that giant monster corrupted dragon as a clear target to work toward.  Without that, they see everything else as distraction and fluff.

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I have restartitis. I have two different characters on Deep Roads, but once i'm done with the "duties" of today, i'll propably restart them both to make some different choices and build them differently.

Might as well take my third character trough it too while i'm at it so i won't have to come back to Act I in a while :D

I did like the battles of Origins more. There are enemy reinforcements for every battle, i preferred to be able to scout and plan my approaches beforehand.

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I'm enjoying it, but not for the same reasons as you (OP) I suppose.

Except possibly the story(I like it too that is). I haven't finished the game yet so I don't have a definite opinion but it is mostly good. ME 2 has heavily influenced DA 2, for good or ill.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 11 mars 2011 - 08:28 .


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I'm liking it so far, I've just taken a break after playing all night so I must be enjoying it :P I'm kind of surprised at the amount negative reaction that this game has got so far that doesn't have constructive feedback. And for me those that do state why they don't like it mention stuff that I don't consider deal breakers for me. The reuse of areas is annoying but I expect it in games that are either huge or have had a short development cycle.

Did EA give Bioware a short development time? Yes more than likely, its what big publishers do. If a game sells well they want another game out soon so that the franchise stays in the public's mind as they are in business to make money. Is the game streamlined for the less hardcore RPG fans? Yes as selling to hardcore RPG fans rarely makes money, before anyone says but DA:O made lots of money; you have to look at the gameplay data like Bioware did and they have stated the the typical game time stopped a couple of hours into the game before being dropped. Does this make it a bad game? No, with its issues it is a top range "Average" game which is being shown by reviews which will hopefully mean that EA will give them more time for the next game as shareholders like high rated reviews just under how much money a game makes.


I LOVE the way you put all this. Because it's how I feel as well. I believe DA 3 will be better for everyone. You are right that it's all about the money for EA. And normaly when things become all about the money it's hard to please fans over the game industry still having to make sure to please the publishers as well. It's either they get money so they can make more games or we get nothing at all. It's just how it works when things get popular or rock so hard that they usually can fall. But I have faith in Bioware. They have made some amazing things and if you expect too much then you will probably recieve a lot less. I always keep an open mind for these things.

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I'm loving everything about this game! I loved Origins too, so i'm not part of the crowd who came along for the new fighting style like some friends of mine did.

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If you like this game you are insane or pathetic or both

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Vengeance of the Grave wrote...

If you like this game you are insane or pathetic or both


*gasp* How did you know?

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ToJKa1 - WOW! LOL
Kilshrek - I don't mind the ME adds to DA. What are some of the things you like most about it so far other than story?
RobotWalk - lol I do love the journey aspect.

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RobotWalk wrote...

Soilborn88 wrote...

In Dragon Age 2 the main story feels as if there is no greater purpose, or greater goal. In Origins it was clear what the goal was and what you're purpose was, to survive, build an army and battle the dark spawn with the odds against you. The story telling, the atmosphere, the world, and depth were what made Origins feel epic.


This is exactly what I'm talking about.  Just because you don't have the kindly mentor telling you in the beginning who the final boss is so you can get all amped up and ready for it doesn't mean it's any less epic a rise.  If anything, it's more like, "Okay, I know that my guy becomes the ultimate badass.  Seriously, how do I get there?"

The goal of the game IS the journey.  Too many people aren't seeing that.  They'd rather have that giant monster corrupted dragon as a clear target to work toward.  Without that, they see everything else as distraction and fluff.


It has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the Blight in Ferelden killing it's King, killing off most of the Grey Wardens in Ferelden led by an Archdemon. The country is thrown into chaos and is on the verge of civil war plus there is the Blight to worry about, and if the blight does take Ferelden all of Thedas would likely go with it.

That's what I mean by epic. DA2 story isn't epic. Nothing of that scale has occured in the Free Marches, after the Blight ended.

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Cathey wrote...

I'm loving everything about this game! I loved Origins too, so i'm not part of the crowd who came along for the new fighting style like some friends of mine did.


Do you prefer the classic fighting style?

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Vengeance of the Grave wrote...

If you like this game you are insane or pathetic or both


*gasp* How did you know?


LOL!

Well my friends, it was fun chatting. I must be off to bed. Continue talking and sharing opinions as you may. Ignore the trolls and haters. Just keep it clean and fun. I am gonna wake up tomorrow and have coffee and play some DA 2! Can't wait. You guys have fun.
Cheers Mates! See you all in the world of DA!
-GingerAnne

Modifié par GingerAnne, 11 mars 2011 - 08:37 .


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I just started playing. And I love love love is thus far!

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I really like this game, only played a couple of hours so my final decission will come afyer beating the game, if i feel like playing it again then it's a great game otherwise it's just ok.
I like the combat system in origins better,

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GingerAnne wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I'm liking it so far, I've just taken a break after playing all night so I must be enjoying it :P I'm kind of surprised at the amount negative reaction that this game has got so far that doesn't have constructive feedback. And for me those that do state why they don't like it mention stuff that I don't consider deal breakers for me. The reuse of areas is annoying but I expect it in games that are either huge or have had a short development cycle.

Did EA give Bioware a short development time? Yes more than likely, its what big publishers do. If a game sells well they want another game out soon so that the franchise stays in the public's mind as they are in business to make money. Is the game streamlined for the less hardcore RPG fans? Yes as selling to hardcore RPG fans rarely makes money, before anyone says but DA:O made lots of money; you have to look at the gameplay data like Bioware did and they have stated the the typical game time stopped a couple of hours into the game before being dropped. Does this make it a bad game? No, with its issues it is a top range "Average" game which is being shown by reviews which will hopefully mean that EA will give them more time for the next game as shareholders like high rated reviews just under how much money a game makes.


I LOVE the way you put all this. Because it's how I feel as well. I believe DA 3 will be better for everyone. You are right that it's all about the money for EA. And normaly when things become all about the money it's hard to please fans over the game industry still having to make sure to please the publishers as well. It's either they get money so they can make more games or we get nothing at all. It's just how it works when things get popular or rock so hard that they usually can fall. But I have faith in Bioware. They have made some amazing things and if you expect too much then you will probably recieve a lot less. I always keep an open mind for these things.


A lot of the arguments I have seen are "It isn't the same as DA:O" or "It's too mainstream" and the first thing that pops into my mind is "Do you go to a Blockbuster summer movie and expect something like AKIRA? no? its the same thing Bioware is now owned by EA which means bigger budgets but they expect big returns. If you want something more like baldur's gate look to the smaller studios/indy studios as they are able to provide the more niche games as the budget is lower so they can afford to not have multi-million units sold"

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Vengeance of the Grave wrote...

If you like this game you are insane or pathetic or both


Am I insane? the voices inside my head say no and they are never wrong!

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GingerAnne wrote...


How did you get your Hawke as a profile pic? I'm playing on 360 and it hasn't shown up yet on my profile. :crying:

OT: I really love the feel you get when you can't wait to get home and keep playing. I find so much about this game incredibly engrossing and I honestly can't stop thinking about the encounters and experiences in the game. I rarely play a game again right after I finish it but with DA2 I've already got a female rogue planned right down to the looks that I'll play as after I finish the game with my male warrior. :D



haha I know exactly how you feel!! I love that feeling too. If I am at work or school, I just want to go home and play the game and while I am away I feel like I am still my character LOL. I know I am a geek but it's so fun! Really takes you away ya know? I just love the story's that Bioware comes up with for their games. It's epic and engaging. The characters are beautiful and fun at the same time strong and it makes them sexy. ;)

I got my picture by going to
my profile
Then on the left hand side bar click where it says "GAMES" (Make sure to regester your game first)
Then you will see a list of regestered games you have. Next to "Dragon Age 2" You will see a link that says "Activate Online Profiles"  Once you do that, the dragon age 2 link will show up under that regestered game. When you click that it will take you to your icon that you use in your game. This will show you your characters stats etc...

Now go to "change profile photo". When you get there, there should be a white box all the way to the right of the screen. Click the little arrow and make sure it says "Dragon Age 2" Then under that it will show your picture. And if you select it, you can use it as your profile icon. :)

I hope that made sense :)

-Ginger


Thanks!

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DA2 wasn't perfect and the streamlining (simplifying, dumbing down, whatever you call it) was not generally an improvement. I felt what was done to speed up combat in ME2 was a good thing and thought in most respects ME2 was a better game than ME1 not so with Dragon Age and its sequel.

That said I enjoyed the heck out of DA2. Took me 35 hours to beat it on my first play through and I think my first DA:O play through was about 43 so it was shorter but not that much. In particular I liked the characters especially your companions (except fenris) and most the major NPCs. I enjoyed the story line but felt it lacked the epic feel that grabbed hold after Ostagar and never really let go in DA:O. DA2 did not start to really feel epic for me until the last hour or so.

I would probably rank it somewhere above Mass Effect 1 and below DA:O in terms of Bioware rpgs I have played ME2 and Kotor are by far my favorites though.

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So far i'm 11 hours in, still in Act 1, and am enjoying this game quite a lot. At first i'll admit i was a bit underwhelmed, and some of the dialogue is a bit jarring (I still can't believe i got hit on in my first conversation with 2 certain male companions, and i'm a guy).

I also had trouble with the dialogue wheel. In Mass Effect, the tone of the dialogue doesn't change as drastically as in DA2. If i want to say something that isn't ass-kissing to the max, i have to be an ****, or a sarcastic idiot. I'm very unhappy there's no neutral option, but i'm starting to get the hang of it.

Th story so far is not all that intriguing, but i'm only half way through Act 1, so i'll wait and see.

The combat is amazing. I'm playing on hard on the 360 right now, and i'm going tactically nuts. I'm loving the tactics in this game, they are no where near gone as some have said.

Anyway, so far i'm really liking the game, don't like it as much as Mass Effect or DAO at the moment, but i'm only at the beginning of the game, so can't really comment there.

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Soilborn88 wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

Soilborn88 wrote...

In Dragon Age 2 the main story feels as if there is no greater purpose, or greater goal. In Origins it was clear what the goal was and what you're purpose was, to survive, build an army and battle the dark spawn with the odds against you. The story telling, the atmosphere, the world, and depth were what made Origins feel epic.


This is exactly what I'm talking about.  Just because you don't have the kindly mentor telling you in the beginning who the final boss is so you can get all amped up and ready for it doesn't mean it's any less epic a rise.  If anything, it's more like, "Okay, I know that my guy becomes the ultimate badass.  Seriously, how do I get there?"

The goal of the game IS the journey.  Too many people aren't seeing that.  They'd rather have that giant monster corrupted dragon as a clear target to work toward.  Without that, they see everything else as distraction and fluff.


It has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the Blight in Ferelden killing it's King, killing off most of the Grey Wardens in Ferelden led by an Archdemon. The country is thrown into chaos and is on the verge of civil war plus there is the Blight to worry about, and if the blight does take Ferelden all of Thedas would likely go with it.

That's what I mean by epic. DA2 story isn't epic. Nothing of that scale has occured in the Free Marches, after the Blight ended.


Sure, there's no horde tearing across the country creating a sense of urgency and chaos that needs to be tamed.   The blight was in Ferelden, threatening it and the rest of the world, but you knew going in that you'd slay that dragon and save the land.

DA II, however, you have a huge mystery and going into it you don't know much.  Newcomers to the game might not realize just how ubiquitous the Chantry is, and that's fine.  But a seasoned Dragon Age player's ears should perk up and make them go "Wait, what the hell?" when they hear that the "precious Chantry has fallen to pieces" due to actions your character has taken.  One person managing to throw the Chantry into chaos is kind of a big deal.  They should realize, upon further playing of the game, that the Seekers are the most mysterious, and possibly dangerous section of the most omnipresent organization in the continent.  If they are involved, and they're worried and desperate, then something huge must have gone down.

The Chantry is a 900 year old institution which has governed the lives and development of most of the continent.  If it's crumbling due to the actions of one man, and the Chantry's equivalent to the CIA is involved with trying to figure out what happened to save a continent-spanning religious order, I'd say that's epic.  Sure, it's not a "Let's go fight armies and dragons," type of epic.  It's just a different kind.  We know that the world is teetering on chaos due to actions you caused.  It's a tale focusing on the evolution of one man who shook the continent.

If I had to compare them to something else, I'd say that Origins was akin to the Iliad, while DAII is more like the Odyssey.  Both quite epic, but in different ways.  One is a war story, and one is a journey story.

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@GingerAnne

So far? The little references to Origins, like "The pigeon population has taken a nose dive" I LOVE IT. The banter, so much more banter than Origins I think, and more frequent. I'm still playing the game so I can't decide on much else, but I know I'm indifferent/slightly annoyed by the new combat system, art style.

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It's a great game and I am lovein it, all the changes are for the better, I love it for many if the same reasons you do, he only negative is the copy and paste dungeons, but I can live with that, I LOVE the characters and my Hawke.

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I absolutely loved the story. I could not predict a moment of it, which was fantastic. DA:O was fun and straight forward but it was... straight forward. After one playthrough, I was bored. With DAII, I want to play through ALL the endings, I want to use ALL the dialogue options, I want to see ALL the conflicts and romances. And the story... my god, it was epic. It came together so slowly, piece by piece, til at the very end you are finally smacked in the face with how important every single little move you've made has been.

I love political intrigue, I love convoluted plots of backstabbing, subterfuge and suspicion, so all in all I LOVED DAII.

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I do

actually origin was superb game, couldn't help but noitce its outdated style, outlook.

DA2 modernized much easy to perceive system.
DA:O's core part still live and well except some details and epicness.

character fixated cameara viewpoint and removal of companion attire change bugs me somewhat

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I am really liking it, just the reusing of the maps annoys me after awhile. I get that we're in the same places over and over but it's kind of tiring after awhile. That would be my largest issue. I'm really loving the story and most especially, the companion banter. All of it is gold no matter who you're using.

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After all the hate this game has been getting I was prepared for the worst...but it's not that bad. It's good. It would even be great if Bioware would stop with the GODDAMN art asset recycling. Some textures are too low-res and there is a distinctive lack of normal maps. Also the dialogue can get pretty terrible (Fenris).
Other than that it's good. I like the new art direction.

Then again I didn't like DA:O. Never finished it.