A lot of male birds look more pretty (by our standards) than their female counterparts. Sometimes it's the other way round. Things don't always go the same way in nature.
Mass Effect Evolution - Official Turian female vs fanmade one
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 10:35
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TR0D wrote...
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Also if Female Turians aren't "feminite" at all what do Male Turians find attractive about Asari?
When you go in the bar on Illium and listen to what they say around the stripper, I think a turian said he likes the tentacles. That's remind him of turian fringe or something like that.
Except the Female Turian so far shown has no "fringe". Just head plating.
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 10:36
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TR0D wrote...
Bluko wrote...
Also if Female Turians aren't "feminite" at all what do Male Turians find attractive about Asari?
When you go in the bar on Illium and listen to what they say around the stripper, I think a turian said he likes the tentacles. That's remind him of turian fringe or something like that.
(Disclaimer: this isn't a rebuttal to what you're saying - but I'd like to grab the opportunity to make a point about this scene)
The turian says that the asari look most like female turians because of their head fringes. However... the human thinks the asari look the most like female humans, because they look virtually identical - BUT, the turian and the salarian can barely see that similarity... So it's not unreasonable to assume that the human sees, at best, a tenuous similarity between the asari fringe and the female turian fringe - hence the female turian fringe not looking that similar to the asari fringe should actually be expected (there's a tiny similarity in that they both curve up at the tips, but the turian's ends closer to their faces).
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 10:37
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Bluko wrote...
TR0D wrote...
Bluko wrote...
Also if Female Turians aren't "feminite" at all what do Male Turians find attractive about Asari?
When you go in the bar on Illium and listen to what they say around the stripper, I think a turian said he likes the tentacles. That's remind him of turian fringe or something like that.
Except the Female Turian so far shown has no "fringe". Just head plating.
That's because you are thinking about it the wrong way.
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 10:38
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Bluko wrote...
TR0D wrote...
Bluko wrote...
Also if Female Turians aren't "feminite" at all what do Male Turians find attractive about Asari?
When you go in the bar on Illium and listen to what they say around the stripper, I think a turian said he likes the tentacles. That's remind him of turian fringe or something like that.
Except the Female Turian so far shown has no "fringe". Just head plating.
That is a fringe. A fringe is just the "outer most edge" of something. Their fringes just don't have extra spikes sticking out (at least, that one didn't). That doesn't mean they don't have fringes. They just don't have those extra spikes - there's a difference, I think.
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 10:53
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I like this concept:
I hate to say this especailly about a fictional alien but that is quite sexy.
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 11:00
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John Newton wrote...
Ty2011 wrote...
I like this concept:
I hate to say this especailly about a fictional alien but that is quite sexy.
Second.
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 11:26
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AwesomeName wrote...
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Except the Female Turian so far shown has no "fringe". Just head plating.
That is a fringe. A fringe is just the "outer most edge" of something. Their fringes just don't have extra spikes sticking out (at least, that one didn't). That doesn't mean they don't have fringes. They just don't have those extra spikes - there's a difference, I think.
Yeah, but I'd expect them to still have the spikes.
From what I've gathered the length of a male's spikes is essence sort of equivalent to the male peacock's plumage, as Garrus would say to look "Very impressive." Hence why Saren was considered very charismatic for a Turian sice he had very long spikes.
My issue is that the female Turian shown though is lacking head plating especially at the back of the skull. Now if we're going by the idea of female birds being "bulkier" why is the female less protected? Seems like a very bad sexual dimorphism in terms of survival.
Also not all birds have greatly distinctive visual differences between males and females. Loons for example look relatively the same between male and female and those are "colorful" birds. And the males tend to be slightly larger. So why couldn't we see similar dimorphisms in regards to our species? Since this is also true with humans.
I'm just saying the female Turian in the comic doesn't make a lot of sense.
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This is at least believable, even if it isn't exactly what'd I expect.
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Posté 11 mars 2011 - 11:51
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Maybe the DH one got it's head stuck in a blender and is just horribly deformed. That should be the official explanation. Blenders always try to ambush you.
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Bluko wrote...
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That is a fringe. A fringe is just the "outer most edge" of something. Their fringes just don't have extra spikes sticking out (at least, that one didn't). That doesn't mean they don't have fringes. They just don't have those extra spikes - there's a difference, I think.
Yeah, but I'd expect them to still have the spikes.
From what I've gathered the length of a male's spikes is essence sort of equivalent to the male peacock's plumage, as Garrus would say to look "Very impressive." Hence why Saren was considered very charismatic for a Turian sice he had very long spikes.
My issue is that the female Turian shown though is lacking head plating especially at the back of the skull. Now if we're going by the idea of female birds being "bulkier" why is the female less protected? Seems like a very bad sexual dimorphism in terms of survival.
Also not all birds have greatly distinctive visual differences between males and females. Loons for example look relatively the same between male and female and those are "colorful" birds. And the males tend to be slightly larger. So why couldn't we see similar dimorphisms in regards to our species? Since this is also true with humans.
I'm just saying the female Turian in the comic doesn't make a lot of sense.
Saren wasn't considered charismatic because everyone was suffering from Invader Zim syndrome
"Oooh, checkit! His spikes! Let's make him a spectre!" Ah, now that's a good point about the lack of protection - they don't have to solve that by giving her spikes - they can just make sure there are plates (the ones you normally see on a male turian's neck) that extend up to over her scalp.
Regarding dimorphism - isn't that the point? That it's not always the same? Some species don't have much difference, some do - and when it does, it could go one way or the other (the males being prettier, or the females being prettier)... like we're both saying, it's not always the same.
I do agree, though, they should at least get more plating.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 12:40
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The official female Turian is fine. The only people with a problem are people whose loneliness-born hyper sexuality is fueling their rage.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 01:25
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Herpderpy. Lol.
Anyway, with all the blue hawt chicks around, there must be some feminine form not similar to us.
If not, there would be a certain lack of verisimilitude (is that even spelled right?) inside the universe, I think.
Anyway, with all the blue hawt chicks around, there must be some feminine form not similar to us.
If not, there would be a certain lack of verisimilitude (is that even spelled right?
) inside the universe, I think.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:25
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Not true. I don't want to screw her. I just don't understand the design.AllenShepard wrote...
The official female Turian is fine. The only people with a problem are people whose loneliness-born hyper sexuality is fueling their rage.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:40
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I hope that, in case they add female Turians to the game... they do not change them to a stetically model attractive to humans just because of this weird fanbase disapproval. Aliens are supposed to be aliens.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 04:02
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There is ugly and there is Skeletor. Skeletor here is too ugly. Besides the lack of fringe contradicts what Garrus said.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 02:45
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Since BioWare managed to make Garrus handsome (yeah I know, that is mostly personal taste but he is undeniably popular with the girl gamers) why shouldn't there be pretty turian gals as well? Pretty in a turian way of course. Also fringes looks great and therefore fem turians should have them too.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 03:05
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Ulzeraj wrote...
I hope that, in case they add female Turians to the game... they do not change them to a stetically model attractive to humans just because of this weird fanbase disapproval. Aliens are supposed to be aliens.
I agree.
Turians are not human. Turians are turian. Human standards of beauty are in no need to apply to turians.
I do not see the point in all this fuss.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 04:27
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TomatoTomato wrote...
Ulzeraj wrote...
I hope that, in case they add female Turians to the game... they do not change them to a stetically model attractive to humans just because of this weird fanbase disapproval. Aliens are supposed to be aliens.
I agree.
Turians are not human. Turians are turian. Human standards of beauty are in no need to apply to turians.
I do not see the point in all this fuss.
What about the Asari? D:
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 04:58
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Why do people care about this... Next thing you know when they show a female krogan they will be saying "oh this sucks... Looks like a krogan. wheres the ****** and tight ass"
People need to lighten the **** up
People need to lighten the **** up
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 05:36
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Why do birds have boobs? Turians are NOT mammals!
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:02
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None of both.
First one doesn't have fringe.
Second one is 'femalized'. Stop apply these mammal female standarts to aliens. You humans are allrapists racists!
First one doesn't have fringe.
Second one is 'femalized'. Stop apply these mammal female standarts to aliens. You humans are all
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 06:06
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ME 3 is gonna be a very though game to make. Fans are disappointed at DA II, so there's some pressure. Shall they reveal Tali's face? Whatever she will look like, people will get angry. Plus tjis about turian females.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 08:15
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lltoon wrote...
What about the Asari? D:
The asari are an exception. That doesn't mean every species should be.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 08:31
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AAAAAAH!!!
Why do they have breasts? They are avian! AVIAN! Like a bird!
Birds are not mammals! Birds are birds! AVIAN!!!
I'm really angry now!
*foam at the mouth*
/end rant
Seriously, though, this penchant in science fiction for giving aliens human characteristics is completely ridiculous. I find the asari too much of a blow to my suspension of disbelief already, I don't need hawt aliens birds. You may as well go the whole hog and make sexy cat aliens.
Aliens are alien. They look different. Another word for different is alien.
Here's a thought experiment for you guys: humans are, in relative terms, closely related to jellyfish. I don't mean in terms of genetics or common ancestry, I mean in terms of biochemistry. What makes anyone think that life that has evolved on an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PLANET will be anything like humans, given the massive variety of terrestrial carboniforms already.
I can buy the turians, salarians, krogan, volus, maybe even quarians and batarians (I imagine in my head something closer to the original concept art), since there are convincing arguments for bipedal life. Asari are a problem, but they are one species in possible dozens in the galaxy so I can handwave them without too much trouble. But we don't need more anthropocentrism than we already have in the Mass Effect universe. Variety is the spice of life, and all that. Also, art should be aesthetically interesting.
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Why do they have breasts? They are avian! AVIAN! Like a bird!
Birds are not mammals! Birds are birds! AVIAN!!!
I'm really angry now!
*foam at the mouth*
/end rant
Seriously, though, this penchant in science fiction for giving aliens human characteristics is completely ridiculous. I find the asari too much of a blow to my suspension of disbelief already, I don't need hawt aliens birds. You may as well go the whole hog and make sexy cat aliens.
Aliens are alien. They look different. Another word for different is alien.
Here's a thought experiment for you guys: humans are, in relative terms, closely related to jellyfish. I don't mean in terms of genetics or common ancestry, I mean in terms of biochemistry. What makes anyone think that life that has evolved on an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PLANET will be anything like humans, given the massive variety of terrestrial carboniforms already.
I can buy the turians, salarians, krogan, volus, maybe even quarians and batarians (I imagine in my head something closer to the original concept art), since there are convincing arguments for bipedal life. Asari are a problem, but they are one species in possible dozens in the galaxy so I can handwave them without too much trouble. But we don't need more anthropocentrism than we already have in the Mass Effect universe. Variety is the spice of life, and all that. Also, art should be aesthetically interesting.
For more info, see this page.
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Posté 12 mars 2011 - 08:46
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Why do you people care about that more than the fact that she looks like Skeletor! She looks like she is yelling "I'll get you He-Man!" It's just creepy.
