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[Waruko Shinobu]

I also had a import bug, where during the quest where you meet Leliana in the Chantry she didn't mention the Warden was "dear to her heart", or any other clues I had romanced her in the first game. I went back to my old file and checked post-coronation, I did indeed "get the girl".

[Demon Velsper]

Luke Barrett wrote...

"Witch Hunt" have no plot flags that are checked inside of Dragon Age 2 right now.

So what was the bloody point about all the fuss over WItch Hunt not saving after the end and the subsequent patch then?

[Crimsoneer]

Not going to lie, I'm slightly disappointed at that - the large reason I was so excited for DA2 was to figure out what followed Witch Hunt. Nice to know I'll have to pay a bit more for that...

[TJPags]

Demon Velsper wrote...

Luke Barrett wrote...

"Witch Hunt" have no plot flags that are checked inside of Dragon Age 2 right now.

So what was the bloody point about all the fuss over WItch Hunt not saving after the end and the subsequent patch then?

What was the point of WH anyway?

It was supposed to "wrap up the Warden-Morrigan story", no?

Face it - lies.

[Eumerin]

Icy Magebane wrote...

I want to know why Leliana is alive in my game. I just played through part of Sebastian's personal quest and she showed up out of nowhere! I went out of my way to kill her, and what, there's just no effect for anything my Warden did? Well, not to get too dramatic.

Leliana being alive even if you killed her (which pretty much requires you to defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes - leaving her behind in Lothering still allows her to leave with the rest of the Chantry, which is mentioned briefly if you ask Wesley why he's still in the region during the prologue) does not appear to be a bug.

Perhaps the Maker really is watching over her as she believes?

[TJPags]

Eumerin wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

I want to know why Leliana is alive in my game. I just played through part of Sebastian's personal quest and she showed up out of nowhere! I went out of my way to kill her, and what, there's just no effect for anything my Warden did? Well, not to get too dramatic.

Leliana being alive even if you killed her (which pretty much requires you to defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes - leaving her behind in Lothering still allows her to leave with the rest of the Chantry, which is mentioned briefly if you ask Wesley why he's still in the region during the prologue) does not appear to be a bug.

Perhaps the Maker really is watching over her as she believes?

No, not a bug.

A bug is something unintended.  This is ignoring the consequences of your prior actions.

Is it confirmed she appears no matter what?

[Icy Magebane]

Eumerin wrote...

Icy Magebane wrote...

I want to know why Leliana is alive in my game. I just played through part of Sebastian's personal quest and she showed up out of nowhere! I went out of my way to kill her, and what, there's just no effect for anything my Warden did? Well, not to get too dramatic.

Leliana being alive even if you killed her (which pretty much requires you to defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes - leaving her behind in Lothering still allows her to leave with the rest of the Chantry, which is mentioned briefly if you ask Wesley why he's still in the region during the prologue) does not appear to be a bug.

Perhaps the Maker really is watching over her as she believes?

I ignored the "Intimidate" option after defiling the Urn and killed her.  The deathblow left no room for interpretation.  She died there.  Heh... no need to get more graphic in the description I guess, but I doubt even the Maker could have fixed that one...

Anyway, if it isn't a bug, just a very poorly handled plot choice.  Why even give players these options if they had no intention of making them count?  That cameo didn't even need to happen.  All it did was serve to break my immersion, and as popular as Leliana seemed to be, I doubt I'm the only one who noticed this.

[NRO TYN]

Same Bug here

[Cajeb]

I killed Zevran in my imported game and he was somehow alive for the Murder of Crows quest

[Eumerin]

Icy Magebane wrote...
I ignored the "Intimidate" option after defiling the Urn and killed her.  The deathblow left no room for interpretation.  She died there.  Heh... no need to get more graphic in the description I guess, but I doubt even the Maker could have fixed that one...

Anyway, if it isn't a bug, just a very poorly handled plot choice.  Why even give players these options if they had no intention of making them count?  That cameo didn't even need to happen.  All it did was serve to break my immersion, and as popular as Leliana seemed to be, I doubt I'm the only one who noticed this.

The Maker cast the mages out of the Golden City, imprisoned the Tevinter Gods beneath the ground, and performed mighty miracles through the prophet Andraste.  I wouldn't go placing bets on what he can't do...



Also, I don't think Leliana's appearence is just a fanservice moment.  I think it's a lead-in toward a more important role for her in the future as the story continues to play out.  She's evidently the personal agent of the Divine, and between that and her appearence in the epilogue, she's someone who will probably be doing some very important things in the future.  She's also the only character that Bioware has created a stand-alone prologue for, and given you the opportunity to play as.  If all Bioware had wanted was fanservice, then Oghren, Wynn, and Sten would have shown up as well.  I strongly suspect that the cameos we got were put there for a reason besides fanservice.


And incidentally, though it's a bit buggy, most of the people who killed Zevran off apparently haven't gotten the quest to go after him.  So the decision to put Leliana in no matter what appears to be a deliberate move on BIoware's part.

[Icy Magebane]

Well, I just beat the game... in light of that, I don't need any answers regarding Leliana. I guess that part of the Warden's story just wasn't supposed to happen.

Edit:  I'll accept it, but I just want to go on record saying that I disagree with the idea of a game series with continuing stories that do not reflect the choices made by the player.  This wouldn't have happened in Mass Effect.

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 14 mars 2011 - 10:31 .

[vometia]

Icy Magebane wrote...

Well, I just beat the game... in light of that, I don't need any answers regarding Leliana. I guess that part of the Warden's story just wasn't supposed to happen.

Edit:  I'll accept it, but I just want to go on record saying that I disagree with the idea of a game series with continuing stories that do not reflect the choices made by the player.  This wouldn't have happened in Mass Effect.

It did happen in Mass Effect--there were many complaints about savegames importing incorrectly into ME2 causing story elements to appear that were contrary to decisions made in ME.  It's rather disappointing that the same thing is happening again; in my case Leliana's apparent indifference to the Warden, though I guess that's relatively minor compared to her resurrection in other people's games...

[lost lupus]

wel i had he dead zevran show up
and a note from Avernus talking about the research from the architect

im not sure how to take the note where do i find howe to see if i have this glitch?