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[Manlytears_sexybeast]

Proven time and time again they bribe same with a couple of other games companies.

[Sirson]

I really doubt they paid for any reviews I mean come on, this is a great game. Compare it to other games that are out there by different publishers. I'll take Dragon Age 2 over 90% of the crap on the shelf any day of the week.

[Maverick827]

Melduran wrote...

8/10 is hogwash, I understand some of you love the game and can't understand why fans of bioware absolutley hate it with a passion. Thats understandable people have their pleasures, but as a gamer that has been around since comodore 64 I can tell you I've never felt so robbed of money after playing this what ever you wanna call it. As a matter of fact there has never been a time that I've personely felt the need to voice outrage for a video game as trivial as that sounds. And there is so many people more so then normal from reviews in the past who despise this game how can it be 8/10? When you play a RPG and you can't even stomach another play through you know theres a problem.

0/10 is hogwash, I understand some of you hate the game and can't understand why fans of bioware absolutley love it with a passion. Thats understandable people have their pleasures, but as a gamer that has been around since comodore 64 I can tell you I've never felt so satisfied with my purchase after playing this what ever you wanna call it, but I would personally call it a game, because that is what it is. As a matter of fact there has never been a time that I've personely felt the need to voice support for a video game as trivial as that sounds. I removed this sentence because it was illegible.  When you play a RPG and you can't even wait for another play through you know theres not a problem.

[Snorkles are Cool]

I think they must have paid someone something because haha this game is pretty bad like REALLY bad like some of those movies that are really bad but the commercials find some guy some where who always says "best movie of the year" and it will be something like Jennifers Body lol

[Persephone]

Reviewers who liked it : Bribed liars, Biodrones, Sheep

Reviewers who were critical/bashed: Paragons of honesty (Because *I* agree with THEM!)

Cute.

Start over.

[Volourn]

The only BIO game that BIO had to bribe reviewers for to get good reviews was the overrated KOTOR..

I think Bethesda probably bribed reviewers to lower their DA2 score by point b/c DA2 is just as good as DA1 since outside of of spawming enemies out of thin air and reused maps, DA2 and DA1 are equal 'cause DA2 has a vastly better story and better characters by far.

Varric > Oghren

Case closed.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Surely they don't go around bribing lots and lots of magazines, and certainly not with money, but has anyone read PC gamer's pre-release first in the world review? It's hard to deny it looks fishy.(yes I can see fishiness you muppet)

[astrallite]

Well there is no denying the fact that the "release date" reviews on Metacritic are higher on average than the reviews that were done afterwards.

Volourn wrote...

I
think Bethesda probably bribed reviewers to lower their DA2 score by
point b/c DA2 is just as good as DA1 since outside of of spawming
enemies out of thin air and reused maps, DA2 and DA1 are equal 'cause
DA2 has a vastly better story and better characters by far.

Bethesda bribed reviewers to lower the DA2 score because they liked DAO better? Now that's an interesting hypothesis.

Modifié par astrallite, 19 avril 2011 - 08:06 .

[SirShreK]

Volourn wrote...

The only BIO game that BIO had to bribe reviewers for to get good reviews was the overrated KOTOR..

I think Bethesda probably bribed reviewers to lower their DA2 score by point b/c DA2 is just as good as DA1 since outside of of spawming enemies out of thin air and reused maps, DA2 and DA1 are equal 'cause DA2 has a vastly better story and better characters by far.

Varric > Oghren

Case closed.

Opinions. Opinions.

Its hard to admit that its a bad game compared to DA:O, is it not?

The skills, the choices, the multiple endings are all gone. I can tell you why too. Because in DA3 they wanted less of a hassle to provide a complex game and waste money on making non-linear plot. 

[abaris]

Volourn wrote...

I think Bethesda probably bribed reviewers to lower their DA2 score by point b/c DA2 is just as good as DA1 since outside of of spawming enemies out of thin air and reused maps, DA2 and DA1 are equal 'cause DA2 has a vastly better story and better characters by far.

Case closed.

That's about as stupid a comment as is humanly possible. Not only isn't it based on any information, it also shows a total lack of understanding how the media works.

Magazines live and die with ads. And if, say, EA buys a lot of them, the editor will make it very clear, they shouldn't be pissed off. That's about all there is to it and every game company does it. But not to downgrade a competitor, since that wouldn't work out, but to upgrade their own work.

And don't think of this reviewers as independant persons. They answer to their chief editors. A personal bribe woulkd be next to impossible. Not only because these things have their way to come out, but because no corporation would be dumb enough to bribe Joe Penstroke in hopes of a good or bad review.

[Lalue]

a couple ppl go through 1 run of the game. They all share their opinion about it, then 1 of them write the review. I guess that's why sometimes the review seems to be way to negative or positive. e.i: for DA2, the same player didn't play it 4 times...
no?

EDIT: grrr, this thread is like 1 month old.  got caught by this annoying necromancer ><

Modifié par Lalue, 19 avril 2011 - 08:51 .

[Droma]

multiple endings in da:o? did i play an other game? yeah ok 4 endings, 3 of them only differ in who kills the arch demon (+ the stupidity of allowing you to be the hero and die in return but magically reappear in awakening). makes 2 "real" endings for me. and you have them both in da2 as well. in both games you also fight the same boss in the ending which ever choice you made so i don't see the point. also you can make a lot of choices in dragon age 2, more on that later.

user scores are far more corrupt so to speak, cause the problem is, everyone who hates it feels the rush to write a bash review. most of the people who just enjoyed the game don't have to write a review.

dragon age 2 is a solid game and deservers ~8/10 and it's totally worth 60 bucks. I don't know what people expect nowadays for 60bucks but you get a game with plenty of hours to play.

for me the main problem da2 has is, that many of the features and sidequests are optional and/or only appear if you play the game multiple times. many people who scream how bad this game is and how less choices you have can't have played the game mutliple times. like the feature that your character acts depending of the majority of your answers (if you often act brutal your character talks like that) or the many side quests over several actes. if you play this game only once and/or ignore lot of the side quests in act 1 then i can understand how people are dissappointed with it. for me it was my second playthrough on which i really felt the difference. it was a other hawke and i wrote a different story with him. people often seem to ignore it. maybe it's because these changes are more subtle then the "choice a or b" ones that dragon age origins had.

Modifié par Droma, 19 avril 2011 - 09:10 .

[Efer]

Droma wrote...

for me the main problem da2 has is, that many of the features and sidequests are optional and/or only appear if you play the game multiple times. many people who scream how bad this game is and how less choices you have can't have played the game mutliple times. like the feature that your character acts depending of the majority of your answers (if you often act brutal your character talks like that) or the many side quests over several actes. if you play this game only once and/or ignore lot of the side quests in act 1 then i can understand how people are dissappointed with it. for me it was my second playthrough on which i really felt the difference. it was a other hawke and i wrote a different story with him. people often seem to ignore it. maybe it's because these changes are more subtle then the "choice a or b" ones that dragon age origins had.

Problem is I cannot finish the game even once  ... the first act with it's super slow pace and repetitiveness is killing me. Better to roll new DAO character than this. I remember bandits from Lothering, Redcliffe defense, cleaning up mage tower, fighting in fade realm, exploring deep roads, the political struggle of dwarves, the cursed humans in elven forest, questing in Denerim, the rune of ashes quest line ... and I haven't played DAO in a year. I remember nothing from DA2 I tried last month and I have played it till after the deep roads expedition  ... it's just too forgetable.

[The Corporate]

I imagine it's more a mix of reviewers not wishing to ****** off one of their major advertising clients, plus a general industry consensus that you DON'T award AAA titles anything less than 8/10. This would explain why later reviewers, who were more independent of EA and had already witnessed that nobody who plays games actually rates DA2, and so they could give it less than 8/10 without facing a community backlash, were willing to give it more deserving scores like 4-6/10.

Modifié par The Corporate, 19 avril 2011 - 10:58 .

[JadeDragonEffect]

I can't fathom how they couldn't be bribed. Seriously I'm playing the game for myself and trying to be as fair as I can. No way a professional reviewer could ever think it deserves a 9/10, unless they never played an RPG before. Sorry Bioware.

[Bmeszaros]

I don't think anybody was "Bribed", so to speak. And I don't feel like these "Professional" reviewers have some great ability to review sequels based strictly on the game's own merits, an ability that we, as fans, "supposedly" cannot.

I think some of the scores are inflated simply because Bioware has had great track record of written and developing great games. I think if this game was developed by a lesser known house/or one not quite as acclaimed, the average reviewer scores would be lower.

Modifié par Bmeszaros, 19 avril 2011 - 12:35 .

[Uzaik]

Well, giving DA2 a 9-10 definitely expels a foul stench.

[Kardelo]

The first two screenshots are of the gametrailers website 1 month ago.

The last screenshot is of the gametrailers website at the current  moment.

Modifié par Kardelo, 19 avril 2011 - 11:53 .

[Alex Kershaw]

Considering the only high reviews were those that came before the game came out, it seems very suspiciously... I doubt they actually bribed with money - there is probably just some kind of non-spoken agreement that the benefits of letting that site preview their game (hence getting more site traffic) will not be given again if the score is low... Also, they will have had a deal with that PCGamer site that their score will appear on the front of the game, and I'm sure they aren't going to give a low score after making that deal...

[randName]

The escapist 10/10 was probably a half bribe - for example they mention the auto-attack on the console, and while in theory they might not have gotten the retail copy but some other version and actually had auto-attack working, I still believe they didn't and just wrote a puff piece.


There is also that most games get few bad reviews the first week, and it sems to be due to companies not sending out advance review copies to sites they don't like - so for the first week, and the week before release, most reviews for most games are positve.


EDIT: And I'm only saying that in general, with all games there seems to be this trend that during the two weeks around launch all reviews are postive, and then once the reviewers that had to buy the game at launch starts to post reviews one week after launch the score tends to go down - as with DA2, and with many other games.

And in the case of the escapist it looks like the reviewer didn't play the game, and still gave it a perfect score - for what ever reason.

Modifié par randName, 19 avril 2011 - 12:50 .

[Bmeszaros]

Uzaik wrote...

Well, giving DA2 a 9-10 definitely expels a foul stench.

Couldn't agree more.

The painfully limiting locations alone wouldn't let me rate it above an 8.... and thats assuming everything else about it is flawless, which I think we all can atest isn't the case.

[Lestatman]

I don't think its just EA as I get the playstation magazine and they're also so biased towards games made by Sony even though they are rubbish games. I think most like to be nice so they can get exclusive interviews/play of game. I even squirm when I watch interviews from so called Game Journilists when their plainly sucking up to developers.

[MakeSense]

Need I remind you that DA2 got even a 100/100 score?
And even more telling than that: what about the "scripted" interviews where the interviewer tries to give to the current Laidlaw of choice a chance to defend the game "somehow", while avoiding the really painful questions and obvious counter-questions?

Everyone will think what they want.
Personally I will not make use "professional" reviews ever again, as the reality behind them is pretty clear to me by now.

Modifié par MakeSense, 19 avril 2011 - 02:15 .

[Warheadz]

It's really awesome how Escapist gave DA2 5 stars and praised it as "what videogames are meant to be". Then they gave Portal 2 4 stars, because it wasn't perfect.