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#51
falranth

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Perhaps I'll just base it on the idea behind what happens there.

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Xyraphius

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Either way, I'm sure you'll make something interesting out of it.

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you can wait. the developers said they want to release the models of DLC in future patches (models only, not the quests)

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It's not so much the models that I'm interested in. Just the story, really.

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I came to this forum to check out the modding scene and the first two threads I see are 'nudemod' and 'gaymod'. No offense intended Falranth as you seem quite serious about this project, I just think it's a classic snapshot of the so-called adult gaming community.

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True enough.

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"New conversations" as a feature? Do you mean conversations badly voice-acted in, or Alistair staring blankly at us as we stare blankly back with words on screen? I'm all for the idea of there being a male romance with Alistair, but either way you do the dialogue, it's pretty immersion shattering.

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Epic Cardboard wrote...

"New conversations" as a feature? Do you mean conversations badly voice-acted in, or Alistair staring blankly at us as we stare blankly back with words on screen? I'm all for the idea of there being a male romance with Alistair, but either way you do the dialogue, it's pretty immersion shattering.

We'll see, I suppose.

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nix3r wrote...

I came to this forum to check out the modding scene and the first two threads I see are 'nudemod' and 'gaymod'. No offense intended Falranth as you seem quite serious about this project, I just think it's a classic snapshot of the so-called adult gaming community.


I'm not going to say anything about the nude mod, since it's a personal choice. But THIS idea, the Alistair Romance for males, is something very possible and that deserves praise, and it is definitely not a "classic snapshot".

@falrath: yes, but if you wait and plan for a bit more, you'll be able to create more. not everyone has that DLC (I have not, for instance, even if I plan to buy it soon)

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More waiting and more planning. Got it. =P

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I just don't know how much waiting time you will be asked for, for the patch you need. more time to think about the outcome of the mod XD

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Sure. And to finish beating the game. I started a new one because I messed up pretty badly. Aaaand today I go get The Calling and maybe the game guide. Yaaay.

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the novels are a great idea. I had to restart too, a few days ago. luckily I was not too far in the game.

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I've gotten too far in mine to restart, so I just downloaded Beerfish's Respecialization Mod. It came in handy and works extremely well.

Modifié par Xyraphius, 18 novembre 2009 - 08:41 .


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Fresno bookstores seem to be severely lacking in The Calling, so I'm going to order it off Amazon. I had to restart because aside from poor specing choices, I was all out of potions and nobody was selling any, and I'd killed off the Elves so I couldn't get their Elfroot. Kinda screwed.

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Oh... Ouch. I suppose that would kinda' be a problem.

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 As I've said, the mod will explore in part the dynamics of Alistair and the player character's camaraderie. One way in which male bonds are differentiated from female bonds is in shared actions, as opposed to outright emotional confessions. While seemingly unimportant, menial tasks are perfect situations for the development of a male relationship. When these tasks involve degrees of physical closeness or intimacy, they move into the liminal space of camaraderie where the distinctions between platonic and erotic are blurred.

What kinds of shared tasks would seem appropriate for the setting, such as for survival or hygiene? Obviously these are not really addressed within the game. My ideas at the moment are hunting, bathing, washing clothes, and setting up camp.

The other benefit of exploring this dynamic is that it really does not require much dialogue. Indeed, actions speak louder than words.

I was also considering the possibility of creating a personal space for Alistair and the player-character off of the campsite--down a small trail to a little pond, perhaps. This could be one site for such intimacy. What do you think?

Modifié par falranth, 19 novembre 2009 - 03:56 .


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I think that the idea of the secluded place is great.

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Soooo now I have to wait for the Return to Ostagar DLC to see how that plays out before I can make some plot decisions.

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eeeh? another DLC?

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Yup. http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/

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seen it. this will make you get the king's armor I believe...

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I'm wondering more about what it says about Duncan.

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nix3r wrote...

I came to this forum to check out the modding scene and the first two threads I see are 'nudemod' and 'gaymod'. No offense intended Falranth as you seem quite serious about this project, I just think it's a classic snapshot of the so-called adult gaming community.


I hope you're implying something different than I think you are, gay mods are no more obscene or adult than a mod to turn one of the gay party members straight (oh wait LOL there aren't any). I would agree that the nudemod is a classic snapshot of the adult gaming community, it's inevitable and predictable with each moddable game. People like nudity and they like it more so when it involves a degree of emotional attachment or sustained physical attraction, until that changes (don't hold your breath) the nudity mods will come hard and fast. (XD sorry i couldn't resist).

Anyway Falranth you brought up a really, really good point about same sex relationships, the shared activity and comeraderie is something I hadn't even thought of or considered. I don't think you should make a separate area that far away, maybe just put another tent behind the main ones perhaps with a miniature fire. That way you get a certain degree of intimacy without feeling cut off from the rest of the camp.

I think you should be very, very careful about the voice-acting, that more than anything else will make or break the mod, so let being a perfectionist be a virtue in this scenario, not a curse. Also i'd be wary about altering his personality at all, people love Alistair the way he is, thats why he's so popular. Anyway I'm really looking forward to this and hope you can pull it off.

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The whole voice acting thing is really quite frustrating. XD I mean, there's not much I can do. If miraculously someone can do a good Alistair, I'd use them. But if not, I'm guessing the best thing to do would be to exclude voiceover altogether? I don't know. I'll do the best I can--I can even avoid writing dialogue for Alistair where possible, but I get the feeling there'd be moments where it'd be even more awkward for him to not say anything at all than to have an off-sounding voice or dialogue with no VO. I really don't want to constrain myself unless necessary, though, because IMHO the mod has a lot of potential. I will definitely be a perfectionist with a voice actor if we get one. Of course I'll use what existing dialogue I can and of course I'll do my best. It just feels like a lot of people are expecting me to pull a Steve Valentine out of my ass (don't worry, I'll still dig real deep =P).



I don't plan on changing his personality--in fact, I am going to be extremely careful as to that, even to where when the time comes, I'll be inviting other writers to come in and do some polishing.



Along those lines, I want this to be an inclusive project. I'm being a bit guarded with some of the more thematic aspects of the project, because I think that in a way they require caution, but for many parts I would actually love to have others working with me. I know it's early right now, but I'm just putting it out there. I love it when people get excited and throw their ideas in. A number of minds are greater than one (mileage may vary--sometimes people don't know what they want).



So, of course, thank you for your ideas. :)



For the side area (let's call it that), you don't think more secluded would be better? It seems it would be really challenging to create a sense of privacy when Morrigan could **** her way in at any moment.



Tell ya what: as soon as I get out of Lothering, I'll wander around the campsite snapping pics. We can toss ideas around.