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[ErebUs890]

Xewaka wrote...
Actually,
the way companions works in DA 2, no, DA can't have MP. At least not as
satisfying, with some people controlling half characters.

If done right, it can work.

sssfreak wrote...

If this was old Bioware I'd be like, sure ok, I trust you guys.

But current Bioware, hmmmmm no.

There is no "new" or "old" BioWare. They are trying new things, every good developer should be experimenting.

[Muddlehead]

Oh please, no, no, no... not unless we were to have very tight control over the people with whom we get to play. Even then, introducing multiplayer play would still not be something I'd enjoy seeing happen to what is still at least recognisably the remnants of a good game.

I'm selfish. I want to play in my preferred fashion. I want to play when it's convenient for me, not at someone else's convenience. I don't want to have to deal with with griefers and PKers. I expect people to communicate literately with me - spelling and punctuating properly, with at least some attempt at correct grammar and syntax.

Making DA3 a multiplayer game will simply attract the wrong sort of people. I don't want it.

Yes, I am an élitist. Is that problematic for you?

Modifié par Muddlehead, 11 mars 2011 - 11:44 .

[Twaddlefish]

[quote]Warlokki wrote...

I am well aware of what was in the BG series(even then I don't think they were talking about coop single player mode). I am talking about the DA franchise, which was started off as a solidly single player experiance.[/quote]
Why the hell would a franchise be limited to a single player games? DOES NOT COMPUTE!

[/quote]

Was there another option for MP except team co-op? I see what you mean, but to me that doesn't warrant the 'full' multiplayer tag. I never played NWN MP, feel free to correct me if I am wrong but I got the impression it's MP aspect was a lot more community based than supported by Bioware.

I've still not got DA2 yet, so my opinion resides on my most recent BW title, Mass Effect 2.

[Alexus_VG]

Warlokki wrote...

Why the hell would a franchise be limited to a single player games? DOES NOT COMPUTE!

Let me help you compute...More resources diverted towards that end usually means the game begins to suffer as a single player experiance. This is ofcourse imo but I don't see the point of having multiplayer in a game that is oriented towards classic RPG. DA:O started off as a game oriented in that direction, all following content I have seen has slowly but surely been prgressing away from classic RPG. Some may like this fact but certainly not all.

[Hyunsai]

Ah yes, there was multiplayer in BG2.

It was also totally crappy, that's why we hardly heard about it...

[Veracruz]

Well, multiplayer in DA 3 would kill any hopes for the people unhappy with DA 2. I personally don't care about multiplayer and the resources that it needs that won't be used for the single player part.

[Ari87]

Veracruz wrote...

Well, multiplayer in DA 3 would kill any hopes for the people unhappy with DA 2. I personally don't care about multiplayer and the resources that it needs that won't be used for the single player part.

Well they could always go the Bethesda-Route and hand the players a toolset with a little demo of what's possible (Usually referred to as "Single Player Campaign") and tell them to make their own game...

[Thanatos9t]

ErebUs890 wrote...
There is no "new" or "old" BioWare. They are trying new things, every good developer should be experimenting.

Well then don't experiment on established franches.

[ErebUs890]

What if the multiplayer was separate from the main story? Like a random dungeon generator. Would certainly be a lot of fun IMO.

[Cathey]

If they're going to introduce co-op or multi in any way i'd rather they start a new game series for it. DA and ME should stay single player.

[BradTheMad]

I remember BG2 multi-player and yes it was fun but I'd rather see them investing more time into the story, seeing that DA2 lacked in that department on some fronts IMO I think it would seriously harm the franchise. Great games don't need multiplayer to attract players. Multiplayer for RPG's seems like a ploy to attract players who'd be better of with MMORPG's as they are focused on mutliplay experience.

[BradTheMad]

crud double-post:pinched:

Modifié par BradTheMad, 11 mars 2011 - 12:02 .

[Bundin]

Even going through the campaign in coop presents problems. Storytelling is difficult when playing with more than one hero. Who gets to decide on the dialogue options? Who gets the hero moments in the cutscenes? Does everyone have to wait on the person who wants to listen to and read everything or does the game rush on for the rest? If you try to keep the integrity of the story intact, you'll have to name one player the hero, and the other player(s) just sidekicks. If you don't do that, there's no room for dialogue options resulting in different outcomes because you won't know if everyone picks the same one.

Will people be happy with being mere sidekicks nowadays? I think not... It's a hornet's nest and multiplayer will soak up development resources that are already severely limited (hello re-used dungeon maps).

Modifié par Bundin, 11 mars 2011 - 12:09 .

[Nightnight]

Oh god... More wacky innovations from Bioware in the next installment of Dragon age.

[Hope Slayer]

The thought of Multi-Player doesn't bother me so much as the thought of seeing chat from a dwarf along the lines of, "OMFG!...dat noob just got pwnd by da' dragon LOLPMP!"

[logangriffith]

I want a SP base game with an option of a MP coop or just plain SP. Anything else and they can shove DA3

[Hyunsai]

Bundin wrote...

Even going through the campaign in coop presents problems. Storytelling is difficult when playing with more than one hero. Who gets to decide on the dialogue options? Who gets the hero moments in the cutscenes? Does everyone have to wait on the person who wants to listen to and read everything or does the game rush on for the rest? If you try to keep the integrity of the story intact, you'll have to name one player the hero, and the other player(s) just sidekicks. If you don't do that, there's no room for dialogue options resulting in different outcomes because you won't know if everyone picks the same one.

Will people be happy with being mere sidekicks nowadays? I think not... It's a hornet's nest and multiplayer will soak up development resources that are already severely limited (hello re-used dungeon maps).

This works totally fine in the Guildwars campaign. One player is the "Hero", and the others are the sidekicks.

It was never a problem in this game.

Modifié par Hyunsai, 11 mars 2011 - 12:14 .

[ejoslin]

Unless DA3 has a lot more resources than DA2, I really really hope they don't include this. I hope they actually listen to the reviews and focus those resources into bringing back more depth to the character interactions. So much of what they "fixed" actually wasn't broken. Gah!

I am not against multiplayer unless it gives the game less depth/more bugs. But that is the likely outcome.

[Taura-Tierno]

*shrugs*

Depends on the multiplayer. If they turn DA3 into Diablo, I'd be disappointed. But something like Baldur's Gate? Sure, why not. It didn't interest me, but it definitely didn't ruin the single-player experience in any way.

[PhrosniteAgainROFL]

Multiplayer? Yes, please.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Wasn't there a plan of EA wanting to have multiplayer in all their games so they just can push internet controlled DRM down our throats?

[Reidbynature]

I wouldn't say no if it didn't come at the cost of the single player experience and was co-op. If it did happen then I would hope they would figure out who the other play controls and not have them both inexplicably as the main character or the other guy just takes over an already established companion character.

[DownyTif]

sssfreak wrote...

Oh god NO

Wow, I can't believe that they will make DA3 multiplayer........ They will have to simplify a lot more for us to understand though!

[ACDimps]

can wait for The Old republic to flop. mike is going bye bye. Get rid of the gigglesquee writers while you're at it. DA3 needs more grimdark

[RJPOGI]

oh my... how low the mighty has fallen