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[Ticladesign]

PC users use the Toolset,

Modules can be played by PC and Console users. (if the toolset itself is a more streamlined, easy to use tool)

The problem is not consoles, but their Control(er)s. I truely wish there was a solution to this. Best scenario I can come up with is that PC's will be used for the Toolset - you'll probably need a dual monitor setup anyway, as it was with the NWN2 Toolset - and actually playing modules can be done on both platforms. Unless the two versions are too different. That's something I cannot know at this stage.

[Maverick827]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Right. Ok.
Now, how do you implement that without alienating the console players?

Consoles (e.g. Xbox Live) are arguably better for client/server functionality than PCs are right now.

[Cobrawar]

My only hope is that mike laidlaw gets fired.

[Lord_Valandil]

Maverick827 wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Right. Ok.
Now, how do you implement that without alienating the console players?

Consoles (e.g. Xbox Live) are arguably better for client/server functionality than PCs are right now.

But there is no toolset.

[Godak]

Cobrawar wrote...

My only hope is that mike laidlaw gets fired.

That's a low blow... <_<

Modifié par Godak, 12 mars 2011 - 01:56 .

[Maverick827]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Right. Ok.
Now, how do you implement that without alienating the console players?

Consoles (e.g. Xbox Live) are arguably better for client/server functionality than PCs are right now.

But there is no toolset.

Well, that's not solely what interests me about multiplayer.  Having a toolset and hosting your own modules is nice, but definitely not required.  Playing through a good RPG in a rich (in my opinion, the richest on the market) fanasy world with a friend is what interests me about multiplayer.

[Dirty Whore]

dude, EA has Laidlaw by the balls...if he doesn't go in the direction they want they will simply put someone else in his place.

[Timtation]

I didn't really enjoy Baldurs Gates co-op, I don't really think Bioware should be wasting time and resource on something like this, especially when Dragon Age AND Mass Effects companions are important, you can't really have them and co-op at the same time, or at least that's what I feel like.

Bottom line, I'm positive the majority doesn't want this for once, and it's one of the few instances showing what's happening to Bioware.

[Anathemic]

Multiplayer huh?

Y'know what screw it, I might just get a Nintendo DSI with the new Pokemon game. Seems way more appealing that DA2 or this multiplayer theory.

[Godak]

Anathemic wrote...

Multiplayer huh?

Y'know what screw it, I might just get a Nintendo DSI with the new Pokemon game. Seems way more appealing that DA2 or this multiplayer theory.

The new Pokemon games with HEAVILY EXPANDED MULTIPLAYER FEATURES? Heh.

[Anathemic]

Godak wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Multiplayer huh?

Y'know what screw it, I might just get a Nintendo DSI with the new Pokemon game. Seems way more appealing that DA2 or this multiplayer theory.

The new Pokemon games with HEAVILY EXPANDED MULTIPLAYER FEATURES? Heh.

Mhmm hell yeah. atleast their multiplayer system works, whereas here we are working with a Laidlaw-hyped theory which can go either side at best.

And btw you can play Pokemon solo.

[chunkyman]

I'm not one of those people that threaten not to buy games or cancel pre-orders over trivial issues, but making it into a MMO would be an instant no-buy for me.

[RedShft]

Twaddlefish wrote...

Mike, no. Knock this **** off. You've already sunk $300 million into The Old Republic, and you'll have enough fun keeping that running once it's done.

Stick to what you guys have proved you know best, an immersive single player experience.

EA funded TOR with $100 ish million. It was not Bioware. Get your facts right.

[_genetix_]

I have to admit now reading this 'Mike Laidlaw' concepts what makes a great game and watched 3-4 his interviews that he should be replaced immediately AND I am not just saying this for the kicks. This fellow doesn't seem to have a clue what is an RPG.

Things like 'I do think the changes made to Dragon Age II in terms of responsiveness are going to be things that could translate better into multiplayer" he doesn't understand the first damn thing about why Bioware is still popular. We have tens maybe hundreds of MMOs out there better than he thinks that this could ever go to and turning to this direction is incredible bad decision, if made.

I cannot understand the logic either. He should be considering seriously to split the game 90% sided to single player and bringing split screen back or LAN complete online gameplay instead of even considering that DA 3 would be the answer. Or combined with second engine like EA has done before (example Medal of Honor 2010) and drop Dragon Age 2 engine to MMO maybe push the DA:origins to single player side and provide only DA2 type of engine to consoles.

"because obviously multiplayer is something that's a huge undertaking, it presents technical difficulty."

Hell your online activation is more difficult technically than providing an multiplayer environment and you do not consider that as an 'huge undertaking'.

and please don't even consider telling me that this is not 'constructive criticism' this is exactly it.

Modifié par _genetix_, 12 mars 2011 - 03:14 .

[fpngan2001]

Please please no. Get the basics done right first, than worry about multiplayer.

[Jaron Oberyn]

They didn't even have enough time to finish with a decent variety of environments and they're talking about multiplayer? Bioware what is going on with you? Seriously this is like a bad dream. A nightmare. EA you're going to pay for ruining one of the most innovative developers out there. It's going to come back on you. I'm just hoping sooner rather than later.

-Polite

[cljqnsnyc]

Mutiplayer? Are you insane? How about SP that have story, character, customization, exploration, and depth? Put money into that, not mindless, useless, multiplayer. Isn't there already enough of that out there? What has happened to Bioware?

[colata]

Ticladesign wrote...

PC users use the Toolset,

Modules can be played by PC and Console users. (if the toolset itself is a more streamlined, easy to use tool)

The problem is not consoles, but their Control(er)s. I truely wish there was a solution to this. Best scenario I can come up with is that PC's will be used for the Toolset - you'll probably need a dual monitor setup anyway, as it was with the NWN2 Toolset - and actually playing modules can be done on both platforms. Unless the two versions are too different. That's something I cannot know at this stage.

Very refreshing unique multiplayer that would be.
that would be interesting one to be had.



Please do not put mundane not unique multiplayer only to pump up first few days of sales like dead space2.

Oh, god EA please don't try to put mundane touch and go multiplayer like dead space 2.

As online FPS fanatic, action gamer, it's horrible to see mundane multiplayer injected only to mar quality of singleplayer.

Even casual players would abandon multiplayer if that happens I BET!!!

Modifié par colata, 12 mars 2011 - 03:40 .

[colata]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

They didn't even have enough time to finish with a decent variety of environments and they're talking about multiplayer? Bioware what is going on with you? Seriously this is like a bad dream. A nightmare. EA you're going to pay for ruining one of the most innovative developers out there. It's going to come back on you. I'm just hoping sooner rather than later.

-Polite

It would be dead space 2 all over again:(

Modifié par colata, 12 mars 2011 - 03:41 .

[colata]

[quote]colata wrote...

[quote]PoliteAssasin wrote...

They didn't even have enough time to finish with a decent variety of environments and they're talking about multiplayer? Bioware what is going on with you? Seriously this is like a bad dream. A nightmare.



It would be dead space 2 all over again:(
It's true horror!!!
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[What?]

If they put multiplayer in DA3, it's the end of the line for me. That's the one thing I NEVER want to see in Bioware games.

[Faust1979]

did people just seem to forget that Baldur's Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights both had multiplayer?

[Faust1979]

VictorianTrash wrote...

If they put multiplayer in DA3, it's the end of the line for me. That's the one thing I NEVER want to see in Bioware games.

I hope you never play Baldur's Gate 2 or Neverwinter Nights then

[Maverick827]

Faust1979 wrote...

did people just seem to forget that Baldur's Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights both had multiplayer?

I hear gross selfishness can lead to issues with memory.

[Lord_Valandil]

Maverick827 wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

did people just seem to forget that Baldur's Gate 2 and Neverwinter Nights both had multiplayer?

I hear gross selfishness can lead to issues with memory.

I don't get it.
Is it selfish to want a single player experience, without a shoehorned multiplayer?