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[DeaHamlet]

 Okay, spoilers ahoy, please skip this thread if spoilers are an issue for you.

I'm mid act 2 and I have to ask this cause it's killing me.
Anders is my LI, I'm a mage, totally pro-mage but not the evil type.  I rescue apostates, but not those who attack me (they can DIE DIE DIE) while trying NOT to kill templars if possible (lie? yes. kill? not so much).  
Fenris is a pain in the neck but I like him too much.  He keeps going between rivalry and friendship because he approves of my good actions but frowns when I rescue mages and tell them to run off rather than go back to the circle.  I'm trying to get rivarly, but I'm role playing and I like and respect him.  So whenever I talk to him I tend to get friendship.  I'm about to start his mission and I have a dreadful feeling I'll be getting friendship points again *sigh*.  I mean, I'm a mage, but anyone torturing elves and having slaves deserves DEATH in my eyes.  (I was a mage elf in DA:O, hehe)

So... to the point, shall we.

I know what Anders will do (kind of, been reading the forums and there's no escaping the hints hehe).  I plan to spare him.  The chantry douchebags try to instigate war with qunary, they support the enslavement of mages and their silence is enabling the BS going on in Kirkwall.  No freaking religious fervour will excuse the crap they are doing.  Yes, innocents, blah blah, but I get Anders viewpoint and my mage loves him, she's not about to kill him. 

If I bring Fenris along for that fuss when I spare Anders, will he flip out and leave?
Or either way if I go rivalry and side with mages Fenris will leave?

I don't know if it's worth my cheating in my firstplaythrough to get friendship with Fenris.  We obviously disagree, leaving him at home for mage related quests just seems like breaking out of character big time.  And feels like going behind his back.  Agree with him in private, take him on saving the innocents missions, and he'd be friendly.  But I feel like that'd be such BS right now.

I'm ranting.  I want to know, what happens if Fenris is with me with I spare Anders?  Is he like Sebastian and flip out and walk out, or just give me rivalry points?

Why the heck is it that all the warrior characters are so anti-mage?  If you play a mage, you need them, but they're always disaproving and crap.  ARG.

[And just as a side, the brother is SO annoying.  He pisses me off more than Morrigan ever did with her whinning.]

[Malja]

I have heard that if you have full rivalry and side with the mages Fenris can be swayed to stay. I am unsure whether or not being a mage sways this though.

Modifié par Malja, 11 mars 2011 - 02:23 .

[Darkwingduck]

I played as a mage and sided with the mages. I had only maybe a 75% friendship with Fenris, had completed his personal quests but missed one of his gifts. Always been sympathetic to him but often pissed him off with my mage sympathizer ways. ANYWAYS at first he left my party and was very against my decision but eventually he actually came around. So my point is as long as you have a friendship with him (probably on the high side I think I just made the cut to be honest) he will return to your side.


edit; I also spared Anders. 

Modifié par Darkwingduck, 11 mars 2011 - 02:43 .

[NKKKK]

He'll return if you're on good terms with him and did his sidequests.

[panamakira]

I'm romancing Anders on the rivalry path and I'm planning to spare him also and I have like 75% friendship with Fenris......I usually take them both because I'm trying to build up their points and when I agree with Fenris, Anders always disapproves.

[Rheill]

I had the same situation (romanced Anders, spared him) and at first Fenris left. I ran into him about two cutscenes later and was able to convince him to join me. I don't think I had full friendship with him, but I must have been close (I did all his sidequests).

[HolyJellyfish]

I played a Mage and Rival!Romanced Anders, full friendship with Fenris (I was a bad mage)

I saved both of them when I sided with the Mages at the final battle.

[alveus]

I had full rivalry with Fenris and he never left me at the end. But i was also in a romance with him, does anyone know if that affects it at all?

[LobselVith8]

DeaHamlet wrote...

I know what Anders will do (kind of, been reading the forums and there's no escaping the hints hehe).  I plan to spare him.  The chantry douchebags try to instigate war with qunary, they support the enslavement of mages and their silence is enabling the BS going on in Kirkwall.  No freaking religious fervour will excuse the crap they are doing.  Yes, innocents, blah blah, but I get Anders viewpoint and my mage loves him, she's not about to kill him. 

If I bring Fenris along for that fuss when I spare Anders, will he flip out and leave?
Or either way if I go rivalry and side with mages Fenris will leave?

I not only sided with the Circle of Kirkwall, but spared Anders and kept him around. He was in my group when Meredith, Carver, Fenris, and the templars confronted us. I had a rivalry with Fenris and while he initially sided with Meredith, I pointed out that what the Chantry was doing was slavery, and he told Meredith he was siding with his friend, then left her side to join me.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 12 mars 2011 - 09:48 .

[Fault Girl]

if you had 100% friendship with Fenris he'll stay

(just dont take him on mage missions) vice versa with Anders.

I havent done a rival with Fenris, but my next playthrough i'm going to be a mage and romance anders but I want to keep fenris so going to have to be abit careful.

Although on my first playthrough I managed to get both of them 100% friendship whilst having both...

[mione]

I never had Fenris in my party or gave him gifts and I missed his personal quest, but when I sided with the mages he stayed on my side o.O perhaps it was a glitch?

[AtomicPink]

I was at full rivalry with Fenris, and he stayed when I sided with the Mages.

[cptncanuck]

I completely ignored Fenris, sided with the mages, and then asked him to come back over to fight with me in the end - and he did.

[Eydris Ivo]

I sided with the mages and let Anders live (was in a romance). I was able to sway Fenris to come back and side with me with 100% friendship.

[Jon abcd]

I sided with the mages, let Anders live, but had to kill Fenris. I didn't do his quest, only gave him one gift, and I had 75% rivalry. I was sad.

[Deztyn]

Sided with the mages, let Anders live and Fenris stayed with me the whole time. He was at 100% friendship.

Modifié par Deztyn, 13 mars 2011 - 11:14 .

[Auresta]

LobselVith8 wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

I know what Anders will do (kind of, been reading the forums and there's no escaping the hints hehe).  I plan to spare him.  The chantry douchebags try to instigate war with qunary, they support the enslavement of mages and their silence is enabling the BS going on in Kirkwall.  No freaking religious fervour will excuse the crap they are doing.  Yes, innocents, blah blah, but I get Anders viewpoint and my mage loves him, she's not about to kill him. 

If I bring Fenris along for that fuss when I spare Anders, will he flip out and leave?
Or either way if I go rivalry and side with mages Fenris will leave?

I not only sided with the Circle of Kirkwall, but spared Anders and kept him around. He was in my group when Meredith, Carver, Fenris, and the templars confronted us. I had a rivalry with Fenris and while he initially sided with Meredith, I pointed out that what the Chantry was doing was slavery, and he told Meredith he was siding with his friend, then left her side to join me.

Does this mean Fenris could potentially die if you decide not to convince him to come back? ;~;

[Maelora]

It's possible to keep them both or to kill either. For me, butchering Fenris was the high point of the game, whining emo pig.

However, it annoyed me you can't keep Anders and... another character. You can't finish the game with a full compliment of companions

[nenosronhir]

Maelora wrote...

It's possible to keep them both or to kill either. For me, butchering Fenris was the high point of the game, whining emo pig.

However, it annoyed me you can't keep Anders and... another character. You can't finish the game with a full compliment of companions

Technically speaking, you can't finish DA:O with a full compliment of companions either.

My first playthrough I completed Anders' romance, and wound up killing Fenris because it seemed OOC for my Hawke to make him fight when he's been disagreeing with the mage-stance from day one (and they never ended up being that close anyway). Killing him still made me sadface though.

[Maelora]

nenosronhir wrote...
Technically speaking, you can't finish DA:O with a full compliment of companions either.

I dunno, neno. Alistair and Loghain occupy the same position, as do Carver and Beth.  So you CAN finish DAO with a full compliment of companions, not just 'all companions' because two occupy the same space.

But Anders and Sebastian don't occupy the same space.  It's more akin to Kaiden/Ashley than anything else. A bit cheap to do that with a DLC character, in my opinion.

[Estelle019230]

I don't think I'll be able to stomach killing Fenris... I'm in a rivalmance with Fenris, so hopefully he won't leave when I side with Anders in the end.  Actually... I think I would rather him leave than have to kill him.

[Eveangaline]

If you did his sidequests and press him about his feelings about slavery, you can get him to stay.

[People4Peace]

I had 100% rivalry with Fenris and he stayed with me when I sided with the mages. He didn't even leave my party, at all.

I was in a romance with Anders but, I doubt that makes a difference.

[Clonedzero]

i let anders live and i sided with the mages.
fenris who i barely used went with the templars, then at the final confrontation i looked at fenris and said "dude....come on..." and he was like "awww fine!" and joined up with me again.
obviously paraphrasing but thats kinda how it went.

[Harcken]

What the heck, I gave fenris a bunch of gifts and had him at 80% rivalry, yet he refused to join me. Is it a specific dialogue choice or something?

Modifié par Harcken, 18 mars 2011 - 04:55 .