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[als3rd]

Modifié par Dadvio, 19 août 2011 - 06:02 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Aldaris951 wrote...

I hated the fact that it doesn't matter if you side with templers or mages the story at the end doesn't change that much. If you side with templers same thig happens if you side with mages.

Not really. You get to be king for a day if you support the Templars.

[als3rd]

ChasesDemons wrote...

Just finished, and like many others I'm disappointed in the suddenness of the ending. The fight ends, there's some really trite dialogue designed to be generic to any choice you make, and roll credits! 

I didn't even get a credit roll.  Now I really feel bad.  <_<

[Bryy_Miller]

Dadvio wrote...

This ending they used for Legacy is a cheap trick that movies use that I hate as well.  Right at the end, before the story is wrapped up, they go to black, leaving me frustrated and unsatisfied.  I think the word for this technique  is called "artsy-fartsy",  when it's really just laziness, no imagination or lac of money. 

Except that they didn't just cut to black and roll the credits. You beat Meredith, Cassandra reveals her intentions to Varric, then has a bit of foreshadowing with Leliana.

How is that "artsy fartsy"?It was obviously foreshadowing.

[Mike3207]

So the Wiki says it's the Warden Commander that disappears. Is the Hero of Ferelden still around if you create a Orlesian Warden?

[LobselVith8]

Mike Smith wrote...

So the Wiki says it's the Warden Commander that disappears. Is the Hero of Ferelden still around if you create a Orlesian Warden?

The Hero of Ferelden and Hawke disappear around the same time. Regarding the Orlesian Warden, it's assumed the Orlesian Warden is the one referenced as having disappeared if you don't import the Hero of Ferelden; I don't know if the flags register the Hero of Ferelden being dead if you're importing the Orlesian Warden.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Mike Smith wrote...

So the Wiki says it's the Warden Commander that disappears. Is the Hero of Ferelden still around if you create a Orlesian Warden?

Could be. Though I dunno about the Wiki accuracy on Warden commander. I think when it references Warden Commander, it also means the Hero of Ferelden, since most people imported their Warden from origins into Awakening.

If the Warden was alive at the end of Origins, but a player created an Orlesian Warden for Awakenings, then it's a bit complicated. Though I'd imagine its the Hero of Ferelden, in this case, that Leliana refers to, since the Hero would be personally known to her, as well as having been more signifigant, due to defeating the Blight.

[als3rd]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Dadvio wrote...

This ending they used for Legacy is a cheap trick that movies use that I hate as well.  Right at the end, before the story is wrapped up, they go to black, leaving me frustrated and unsatisfied.  I think the word for this technique  is called "artsy-fartsy",  when it's really just laziness, no imagination or lac of money. 

Except that they didn't just cut to black and roll the credits. You beat Meredith, Cassandra reveals her intentions to Varric, then has a bit of foreshadowing with Leliana.

How is that "artsy fartsy"?It was obviously foreshadowing.

Obviously you didn't read my post carefully.  I was talking about the end of Legacy.  The end of DA2 is very good and satisfying, in my opinion.

[Moshiecat]

Yeah - i thought the ending was rushed myself, seemed very abrupt. It was highly irritating how your choice made no impact, im referring to having to fight both sides, it felt a bit silly how no matter what you do, everyone turns on you. The cause was compelling enough without that guff
Ive not played the DLC yet so I dont know what happens with that - will have to wait and see after ive got over my annoyance with DA:2

[Tainan7509]

Dragon age 2 wasn't all that bad enough for me to use "hate" to describe my feeling after finishing the game. Although there are a lot of bugs at the beginning and it take a few patches to fix it, i still like this game especially about the combat and story. The ending choice either chose templar or mage are not that important anymore well... since you can have as many play through as you want, i don't see any problem to side either side. Moreover, it does allow you to see through both side more clearly. Bioware is very good with moral dilemma and grey choices. There is nothing wrong with that.

P.S the only thing i wasn't really happy  was that the environment.. it gets old really quick and it shows Bioware is lazy to design more variety pleaces.

Modifié par Tainan7509, 02 septembre 2011 - 08:39 .

[aries1001]

The ending of DA2 set things up for future dlcs and DA games in the franchise. It makes sense to me that the Warden and the Champion has left the building. Hawke should not be around, I feel, as she has done enough damage...un-intentionally.....as she meddled in other people's business...

[Bachmors]

I just finished Dragon Age 2 for the second time, and the ending is probably one of the worst in gaming history. The third act is actually ok, right until the fight with Orsino ... and the fight against Meredith is just ridiculous ... bad effects, funny statues, etc. I felt like I was playing Soulblade or some other cheesy japanese beat 'em up.

[DV-01]

I love the gameplay of DA2.
The world and characters I felt to be a touch void of bright life and humanity. Everything was strained, dark and stretched. Even for color palettes, I hope they give more vibrancy and levity to certain areas. It felt like there was no real order, no true love, like the world had passed far past pure selfishness generations ago. I think going forward, pockets of writing, areas or characters with truth, love and selflessness. Naivety, innocence would work wonders to juxtapose the weight and violence of Thedas.

That said I still love the world and the characters, though as a rogue sometimes I had a three rogue party just because I like Varric and Isabelle the most for their dialogue. Boss fights got.. interesting.

I'd like to see at least an ounce of whimsical fantasy and magic here, to surprise us and keep the usual macabre tone fresh.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

I can see fighting Meredith because she went insane due to the idol but orsino only makes sense IF you side with the Templars. Siding with mages, it's a case of "what in the name of Adraste's flaming knickers are you doing? We are winning here and you are going to turn into a monster and ruin everything? Are you even more insane that Meredith?!"

[esper]

Alexa_ wrote...

DarkAmaranth1966 wrote...

I can see fighting Meredith because she went insane due to the idol but orsino only makes sense IF you side with the Templars. Siding with mages, it's a case of "what in the name of Adraste's flaming knickers are you doing? We are winning here and you are going to turn into a monster and ruin everything? Are you even more insane that Meredith?!"

Yes, I was quite horrified when Orsino did that! He had absolutely no reason to do it AT THAT MOMENT! Maybe I would have understood his morphing if it had been during the battle against Meredith ... but ... no  ... not even then!

One more very disappointing point was the ending:

In DAO you have the chance to get some kind of happy ending. In DA2 you
can choose between a sad ending (romancing Anders and killing him), a
bitter ending (romancing Anders and sparing him) and a cliffhanger
(romancing anyone else)!

I know, that David Gaider mentioned that he loves "bitter sweet endings" ... but in DA2 they DROPPED the SWEET part!!!

That is highly subjective. My Hawke certainly didn't feel her ending was bitter. In fact she felt relieved, and I felt that the ending fitted her:
The templars backing away in fear and she walking away from the city that was no longer her responsibility to fight the battle she wanted to fight all the time.

[darkmilkyway]

esper wrote...

Alexa_ wrote...

DarkAmaranth1966 wrote...

I can see fighting Meredith because she went insane due to the idol but orsino only makes sense IF you side with the Templars. Siding with mages, it's a case of "what in the name of Adraste's flaming knickers are you doing? We are winning here and you are going to turn into a monster and ruin everything? Are you even more insane that Meredith?!"

Yes, I was quite horrified when Orsino did that! He had absolutely no reason to do it AT THAT MOMENT! Maybe I would have understood his morphing if it had been during the battle against Meredith ... but ... no  ... not even then!

One more very disappointing point was the ending:

In DAO you have the chance to get some kind of happy ending. In DA2 you
can choose between a sad ending (romancing Anders and killing him), a
bitter ending (romancing Anders and sparing him) and a cliffhanger
(romancing anyone else)!

I know, that David Gaider mentioned that he loves "bitter sweet endings" ... but in DA2 they DROPPED the SWEET part!!!

That is highly subjective. My Hawke certainly didn't feel her ending was bitter. In fact she felt relieved, and I felt that the ending fitted her:
The templars backing away in fear and she walking away from the city that was no longer her responsibility to fight the battle she wanted to fight all the time.

I like how you describe the very last moment when hawke leave the place. I just finished the game. I want to know more about hawke and his partner. I feel like varric is lying to his interrogator (forgot whow as the woman's name). I am pretty sure he can find him if in need.

[RampantAndroid]

I think they've said that the hero of ferelden and hawke will play some role in DA3, though they won't be playable? That will be odd, talking to the person you played as the last time around, if they actually have that in there. Frankly, some continuation of either Hawke or the hero of Ferelden WOULD be appreciated...

[Bekkael]

I had absolutely no problem with the end of DA2. In fact, when I finished the game, I felt excited to see what would come next. It's unfortunate that we won't get the (for me) much anticipated Exalted Marches expansion, but I'm still fine with how they left it at the end.

In fact, I think the Dragon Age 2 writers could seriously stand to school the writers of the ME3 ending fiasco, and teach them a thing or three. But hey, just my opinion as a consumer. Compared to ME3, DA2 ending was superb.

EDIT: spelling

Modifié par Bekkael, 04 juillet 2012 - 09:41 .

[LolaLei]

I didn't have a problem with the DA2 ending either, it was obvious that it was supposed to be left on a cliff-hanger as a set up to DA3. And hey, at least we knew Hawke was definitely alive!

[SirGladiator]

I would say the ending to DA2 was about the best part of the main game. Not counting the final 2 boss battles, which made absolutely no sense and even worse, actually appear to force you to kill people who aren't even bad, and who are more or less attacking you against their will, all that was terrible, but the actual ending, when you leave with your sister and your LI and whichever friends you still have left, that's when it starts getting better, then the part with Cassandra and Leliana, thats the best part of the ending, that's really just fantastic. It does set things up really nicely for whatever is to come, and makes you want to find out what it is that is coming. Plus, you get to see more of Leliana and Cassandra, so that's nice just right there . So yeah, I liked the ending, it would've been nicer if we could've seen a bit more with Hawke and her sister and her LI, but the key point is it ends on a happy note for everybody that you care about, and ultimately that's what matters far more than anything else. Just ask anybody who played ME3 about that .

[PizzaThe Hutt]

Those last two boss battles made me question the sanity of the dev department, Meredith's battle was understandable and inevitable, but what the sod was up with those statues?! Most of the statues seemed unnecessary, well save for the templar ones and maybe the larger slave statues but after a while I was hoping the battle would end soon. Orsino's battle seemed unnecessary in the first place whether you're with the templars or the mages. He didn't even seem that bad of a guy through out the game but to become that which he hated, a blood mage? Besides that, I was rather content with the ending given all the wtf moments I had through out my playthroughs.

[Dwarva]

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

Those last two boss battles made me question the sanity of the dev department, Meredith's battle was understandable and inevitable, but what the sod was up with those statues?! Most of the statues seemed unnecessary, well save for the templar ones and maybe the larger slave statues but after a while I was hoping the battle would end soon.

Reminds me of a great fanfic I read that was Varric telling the DA2 story and admitted to Hawke (after he escaped Cassandra's clutches and met her back wherever she'd been hiding out....) that he got bored towards the end and was just making up entirely ridiculous things. He said something like 'I told her the statues came to life in the Gallows.....AND SHE BOUGHT IT!!'. Was actually really funny and made me realise just how daft some aspects of the ending were.

[PizzaThe Hutt]

Staarbux wrote...

PizzaThe Hutt wrote...

Those last two boss battles made me question the sanity of the dev department, Meredith's battle was understandable and inevitable, but what the sod was up with those statues?! Most of the statues seemed unnecessary, well save for the templar ones and maybe the larger slave statues but after a while I was hoping the battle would end soon.

Reminds me of a great fanfic I read that was Varric telling the DA2 story and admitted to Hawke (after he escaped Cassandra's clutches and met her back wherever she'd been hiding out....) that he got bored towards the end and was just making up entirely ridiculous things. He said something like 'I told her the statues came to life in the Gallows.....AND SHE BOUGHT IT!!'. Was actually really funny and made me realise just how daft some aspects of the ending were.

Haha nice one!  Do you have a link?  Would love to read it!