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The "100% Chameleon" ethics question...


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#26
BluesMan1956

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Baelin Firestorm wrote...

BluesMan1956 wrote...

ReggarBlane wrote...

If the game allows it, the only thing you're cheating is your own experience. (Never tried for 100% Chameleon. Might have to load the game up again and see about it.)

You'll need as many wearable-at-the-same-time garments as total soul gems.  5 grand soul gems is the fewest you'll need unless you managed to find the Ring of Chameleon (25%)


You also need very high Illusion (tree containing the Chameleon spell) skills to be able to enchant the items.

Illiusion is always my first skill to build up.  Gotta have that invisibility and, ultimately, chameleon

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Varenus Luckmann

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I would not use it. I would not call it cheating, but I wouldn't condone it's usage.

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Achromatis

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If you have to rely on 100% Chameleon to play Oblivion, then you fail. Its not cheating, its arguably exploitation, but it makes the game rather pointless.

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WoodsDweller

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My position is that you can't cheat in a single-player game. You just change the gameplay. Whether that improves or degrades your user experience is your own call. Making it too easy sort of defeats the purpose; beating your head against the wall is pretty pointless for something that is supposed to be fun.



I didn't use 100%+ chameleon in Oblivion for regular gameplay, except for the end of the thieve's guild quest, since I wasn't playing a thief character. I wanted to finish that guild quest and I just wasn't sneaky enough to do it otherwise.



Other than that I just keep my chameleon gear around to go romping through the countryside, such as looking for a nice hill to put a house mod on, or just enjoying the sunset.



Another example was Far Cry. There was one point where you are on a sinking ship trying to shoot down a helicopter with a guy with a machine gun. The rest of the game was easy enough, but I could never get the hang of the high-latency rocket launcher to hit the moving helicopter. Rather than give up on the game I went to god mode for that bit, then back again. Better to play the other 98% of the game than to get stuck in one spot in the middle.

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M-zero

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Regardless of whether or not it's "cheating", this is definitely not a question of ethics.